The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah

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What is the point of Matthew 1 giving the Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah,
Coming from the bloodline of Joseph when Joseph isnt the bloodline jesus came from since mary was a virgin?
 
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That's a very good question. Of course it will be side-stepped with all kinds of talk about Prophecy.
 

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What is the point of Matthew 1 giving the Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah,
Coming from the bloodline of Joseph when Joseph isnt the bloodline jesus came from since mary was a virgin?
Simply look at Lukes Geneology. He writes of Jesus as Son of Man.....There was a blood curse on Joseph's side of the geneology. But what is seldom stated, Mary is also out of the Blood line of David.. Therefor Mary did not need Joseph to bear a son (Jesus) connected to the Throne of David.

Can you imagine what Satan was saying when GOD pronounced that Blood Curse on Davids Line......... something like maybe
"I got him now" or maybe "did you see that, he shot his own foot off (His meaning GOD). lol

LOL, sometimes it is funny to look at the curves God throws Satan in order to keep him from mimicking him. This is the reason why the Rapture that is Imminent all through the NT yet, it is unknown when and if it will happen except by the very elect. Even Satan cannot ne sure when it will happen so all he can do is have the ANTI-CHIST ready at all times.

Again, the Gospel of Matthew views and writes about Jesus as a JEW which HE was and is.

The Gospel of Luke (a physician) speaks of Jesus as the "SON of MAN" which HE was and is.

The Gospel of JOHN (the Beloved) speaks of Jesus as the "SON of GOD" Which HE IS.

The Gospel of Mark ( the fisherman) speaks of Jesus as the "Obedient Servant to GOD" which HE WAS!

 
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Hizikyah

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Jeremiah 23:5-6, “See, the days are coming,” declares יהוה, “when I shall raise for Dawiḏ a Branch of righteousness, and a King shall reign and act wisely, and shall do right-ruling and righteousness in the earth. In His days Yehuḏah shall be saved, and Yisra’yl dwell safely. And this is His Name whereby He shall be called: ‘יהוה our Righteousness.”



In the account of Yahshua written by Mat, in the first chapter Yahshua’s earthly lineage is shown, and depicts His ancestry from Dawid. Messiah as the King.
 
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Hizikyah

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However there is more to the story...
 

Hizikyah

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Matthew 1:16

Hebrew Mattithyah

And Ya‛aqoḇ brought forth Yosĕph the father of Miryam, of whom was born יהושע who is called Messiah.

New International Version
and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

Mariam's father and husband had the same name, Yoseph/Joseph, a common name in Israyl. Matthew originall wrote his account in the Hebrew language, and copies of it in Hebrew survive to this day, yet that Hebrew version was taken and translated into Aramaic and Greek. In this translation "father" was changed to "husband." We don't know why but it seems the translatiors thought to "correct" the text, knowing that Joseph was Mariam's husbands name, and thinking "father" was an error. It is worth mentioning that the Hebrew version has a number of other proper readings where the versions translated from it have not 100% conveyed the original.

The Ebionites were a Christian sect that claimed to preserve the original autograph of apostle Matthew in Hebrew. It is quoted often by Epiphanius in the 300s. He said its official title was “The Gospel according to Matthew.” (Epiphanius, Panarion 30, 13, 2-3.)



Apostle John told Papias around 90 A.D. about this book of Matthew: “Matthew put together the oracles [of the Lord] in the Hebrew language, and each one interpreted them as best he could.” (Eusebius, Hist. Eccl. iii. 39, quoting Exposition of the Oracles of the Lord)


Irenaeus likewise says: “Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect.” (Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book III, Chapter I, quoted in Eusebius,
Ecclesiastical History, Book V, Chapter VIII.)


Jerome around 404 A.D. wrote of this too: “The Hebrew [Matthew] itself has been preserved until the present day in the library at Caesarea which Pamphilus so diligently gathered.” (Jerome, Lives of Illustrious Men, Chapter III.)


Matthew collected the oracles (ta logia) in the Hebrew language, and each interpreted them as best he could.” – Papias (Eusebius, H.E. 3.39.16)


Matthew 1:16


Hebrew Mattithyah
And Ya‛aqoḇ brought forth Yosĕph the father of Miryam, of whom was born יהושע who is called Messiah.


New International Version
and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.


New Living Translation
Jacob was the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary. Mary gave birth to Jesus, who is called the Messiah.


English Standard Version
and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.


Berean Study Bible
and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.


Berean Literal Bible
And Jacob begat Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, the One being called Christ.


New American Standard Bible
Jacob was the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, by whom Jesus was born, who is called the Messiah.


King James Bible
And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
 

shrume

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Mariam's father and husband had the same name
I concur.

The commonly held belief that Matthew's genealogy is through Jesus' stepfather Joseph and Luke's genealogy is through Mary, Jesus' mother, is wrong.

Another indicator that Matthew's genealogy is through Mary is in verse 17:

Matt 1:
17) So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

If the Joseph in Matt 1:16 is Mary's husband, then there are only 13 generations between the carrying away to Babylon and Christ. If the Joseph in verse 16 is Mary's father, then there are 14 generations.
 

Hizikyah

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I concur.

The commonly held belief that Matthew's genealogy is through Jesus' stepfather Joseph and Luke's genealogy is through Mary, Jesus' mother, is wrong.

Another indicator that Matthew's genealogy is through Mary is in verse 17:

Matt 1:
17) So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

If the Joseph in Matt 1:16 is Mary's husband, then there are only 13 generations between the carrying away to Babylon and Christ. If the Joseph in verse 16 is Mary's father, then there are 14 generations.
Yes originally I was troubled read ony 13 generations an was unsure of the proper reading, after a few years of study I found the Hebrew versions of Matt, and it seems they even have minor differences, but any way it;s written the Hebrew has 14 generations, and since it says "14 generations" in all versions we know that the one actually showing the 14 is correct.

To He who seeks finds! priaseYah!
 

Bladerunner

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I concur.

The commonly held belief that Matthew's genealogy is through Jesus' stepfather Joseph and Luke's genealogy is through Mary, Jesus' mother, is wrong.

Another indicator that Matthew's genealogy is through Mary is in verse 17:

Matt 1:
17) So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

If the Joseph in Matt 1:16 is Mary's husband, then there are only 13 generations between the carrying away to Babylon and Christ. If the Joseph in verse 16 is Mary's father, then there are 14 generations.
In fact, according to the laws of Moses, Mary would marry Joseph and Her Father would Adopt a SON. Thus the inheritance line continued.
 

Hizikyah

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In fact, according to the laws of Moses, Mary would marry Joseph and Her Father would Adopt a SON. Thus the inheritance line continued.
where is this written in the Law? Ii is not.
 

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What is the point of Matthew 1 giving the Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah,
Coming from the bloodline of Joseph when Joseph isnt the bloodline jesus came from since mary was a virgin?
Romans 1:16-23

Plus, as written in Hebrews 13:4, Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled:"




 

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What is the point of Matthew 1 giving the Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah,
Coming from the bloodline of Joseph when Joseph isnt the bloodline jesus came from since mary was a virgin?
The point is to have some people gripe about the genealogies rather than understand the principles behind them.

In brief, both Joseph and Mary had descended from the line of David (and that is why they went to Bethlehem, the city of David, for the census), and Christ was to be a descendant of king David, and of the tribe of Judah, and "Shiloh" is another name for Christ.

The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. (Gen 49:10).

While Joseph may have been the "foster father" of Jesus, he was regarded as the LEGAL father of Jesus. Hence "Is not this the carpenter's son?"
 
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What is the point of Matthew 1 giving the Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah,
Coming from the bloodline of Joseph when Joseph isnt the bloodline jesus came from since mary was a virgin?
they are both from the same bloodline, Joseph is of Solomon line, and Mary of Nathan line both from the house of David.

solomon the King symbolicness line, Nathan the older linage. the geno's read like a tree, start with King David to Solomon to Joseph pay homage jump to Mary down to Nathan David to Abraham to Adam.

Mt1:1
A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham:


Mt1:17
Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David,
Fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Christ.


(14) ~ generations ~ Mt1:6b: (1st) David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife,


Mt1:7
(2nd) Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
(3rd) Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
(4th) Abijah the father of Asa,


Mt1:8
(5th) Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
(6th) Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
(7th) Jehoram the father of Uzziah,


Mt1:9
(8th) Uzziah the father of Jotham,
(9th) Jotham the father of Ahaz,
(10th) Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,


Mt1:10
(11th) Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
(12th) Manasseh the father of Amon,
(13th) Amon the father of Josiah,


Mt1:11 and (14th) Josiah the father of (Jeconiah) and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.


(14) ~ generations ~ Mt1:12
After the exile to Babylon:
(1st) Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
(2nd) Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,


Mt1:13
(3rd) Zerubbabel the father of Abiud,
(4th) Abiud the father of Eliakim,
(5th) Eliakim the father of Azor,


Mt1:14
(6th) Azor the father of Zadok,
(7th) Zadok the father of Akim,
(8th) Akim the father of Eliud,


Mt1:15
(9th) Eliud the father of Eleazar,
(10th) Eleazar the father of Matthan,
(11th) Matthan the father of Jacob,


Mt1:16
and (12th) Jacob the father of (13th) Joseph,
the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus,
who is called (14th) Christ.


(40) ~ generations ~ Lk3:23
Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old, when he began his ministry. [Baptism]
He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, and the son of (40th) Heli, [Mary’s father]


Lk3:24
the son of (39th) Matthat,
the son of (38th) Levi,
the son of (37th) Melki,
the son of (36th) Jannai,
the son of (35th) Joseph,
Lk3:25
the son of (34th) Mattathias,
the son of (33rd) Amos,
the son of (32nd) Nahum,
the son of (31st) Esli,
the son of (30th) Naggai,
Lk3:26
the son of (29th) Maath,
the son of (28th) Mattathias,
the son of (27th) Semein,
the son of (26th) Josech,
the son of (25th) Joda,
Lk3:27
the son of (24th) Joanan,
the son of (23rd) Rhesa,
the son of (22nd) Zerubbabel,
the son of (21st) Shealtiel,
the son of (20th) Neri,
Lk3:28
the son of (19th) Melki,
the son of (18th) Addi,
the son of (17th) Cosam,
the son of (16th) Elmadam,
the son of (15th) Er,
Lk3:29
the son of (14th) Joshua,
the son of (13th) Eliezer,
the son of (12th) Jorim,
the son of (11th) Matthat,
the son of (10th) Levi,
Lk3:30
the son of (9th) Simeon,
the son of (8th) Judah,
the son of (7th) Joseph,
the son of (6th) Jonam,
the son of (5th) Eliakim,
Lk3:31
the son of (4th) Melea,
the son of (3rd) Menna,
the son of (2nd) Mattatha,
the son of (1st) Nathan,
the son of David,


(14) ~ generations
Mt1:6a: and (13th) Jesse the father of (14th) King David. Lk3:32a: the son of Jesse,


Mt1:5c: (12th) Obed the father of Jesse, Lk3:32b: the son of Obed,
Mt1:5b: (11th) Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth, Lk3:32c: the son of Boaz,
Mt1:5a: (10th) Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab, Lk3:32d: the son of Salmon,


Mt1:4c: (9th) Nahshon the father of Salmon, Lk3:32e: the son of Nahshon,
Mt1:4b: (8th) Amminadab the father of Nahshon, Lk3:33a: the son of Amminadab,
Mt1:4a: (7th) Ram the father of Amminadab, Lk3:33b: the son of Ram,


Mt1:3c: (6th) Hezron the father of Ram, Lk3:33c: the son of Hezron,
Mt1:3b: (5th) Perez the father of Hezron, Lk3:33d: the son of Perez,
Mt1:3a: (4th) Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar, Lk3:33e: the son of Judah,


Mt1:2c: (3rd) Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, Lk3:34a: the son of Jacob,
Mt1:2b: (2nd) Isaac the father of Jacob, Lk3:34b: the son of Isaac,
Mt1:2a: (1st) Abraham was the father of Isaac, Lk3:34c: the son of Abraham,


(20) ~ generations
Lk3:34d: the son of (20th) Terah,
Lk3:34e: the son of (19th) Nahor,


Lk3:35
the son of (18th) Serug,
the son of (17th) Reu,
the son of (16th) Peleg,
the son of (15th) Eber,
the son of (14th) Shelah,
Lk3:36
the son of (13th) Cainan,
the son of (12th) Arphaxad,
the son of (11th) Shem,


the son of (10th) Noah,
the son of (9th) Lamech,
Lk3:37
the son of (8th) Methuselah,
the son of (7th) Enoch,
the son of (6th) Jared,
the son of (5th) Mahalalel,
the son of (4th) Kenan,
Lk3:38
the son of (3rd) Enosh,
the son of (2nd) Seth,
the son of (1st) Adam,
the son of God.
 

shrume

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they are both from the same bloodline, Joseph is of Solomon line, and Mary of Nathan line both from the house of David.
You have it backwards.

solomon the King symbolicness line, Nathan the older linage. the geno's read like a tree, start with King David to Solomon to Joseph pay homage jump to Mary down to Nathan David to Abraham to Adam.

Mt1:1
A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham:


Mt1:17
Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David,
Fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Christ.


(14) ~ generations ~ Mt1:6b: (1st) David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife,


Mt1:7
(2nd) Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
(3rd) Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
(4th) Abijah the father of Asa,


Mt1:8
(5th) Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
(6th) Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
(7th) Jehoram the father of Uzziah,


Mt1:9
(8th) Uzziah the father of Jotham,
(9th) Jotham the father of Ahaz,
(10th) Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,


Mt1:10
(11th) Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
(12th) Manasseh the father of Amon,
(13th) Amon the father of Josiah,


Mt1:11 and (14th) Josiah the father of (Jeconiah) and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.


(14) ~ generations ~ Mt1:12
After the exile to Babylon:
(1st) Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
(2nd) Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,


Mt1:13
(3rd) Zerubbabel the father of Abiud,
(4th) Abiud the father of Eliakim,
(5th) Eliakim the father of Azor,


Mt1:14
(6th) Azor the father of Zadok,
(7th) Zadok the father of Akim,
(8th) Akim the father of Eliud,


Mt1:15
(9th) Eliud the father of Eleazar,
(10th) Eleazar the father of Matthan,
(11th) Matthan the father of Jacob,


Mt1:16
and (12th) Jacob the father of (13th) Joseph,
the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus,
who is called (14th) Christ.
Your counting is off. David is #14 in the first set of 14, not #1 in the second set.

The first set of 14 generations, from Abraham to David, are:
1) Abraham,
2) Isaac,
3) Jacob,
4) Judah,
5) Perez,
6) Hezron,
7) Ram,
8) Amminadab,
9) Nahshon,
10) Salmon,
11) Boaz,
12) Obed,
13) Jesse,
14) David.

The second set of 14 generation, from David to the carrying away to Babylon, are:

1) Solomon,
2) Rehoboam,
3) Abijah,
4) Asa,
5) Jehoshaphat,
6) Jehoram,
7) Uzziah,
8) Jotham,
9) Ahaz,
10) Hezekiah,
11) Manasseh,
12) Amon,
13) Josiah,
14) Jeconiah

From the carrying away to Babylon to Christ:
1) Shealtiel,
2) Zerubbabel,
3) Abiud,
4) Eliakim,
5) Azor,
6) Zadok,
7) Akim,
8) Eliud,
9) Eleazar,
10) Mattan,
11) Jacob,
12) Joseph
13) Mary,
14) Jesus.

(40) ~ generations ~ Lk3:23
Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old, when he began his ministry. [Baptism]
He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, and the son of (40th) Heli, [Mary’s father]
The Bible clearly states that Heli was Joseph's father, not Mary's.

What Bible translation adds the word "and" in the phrase "and the son of Heli"? It's not in the Greek.
 

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What is the point of Matthew 1 giving the Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah,
Coming from the bloodline of Joseph when Joseph isnt the bloodline jesus came from since mary was a virgin?
Since Joseph was perceived to be Jesus' legal father Matthew seems to have thought it necessary to establish Jesus royal lineage through Joseph. I can't think of any other reason for it.

I find it much more significant that Luke traces Mary's lineage through Nathan instead of Solomon Since Solomon's idolatry precluded his being in the Line of Jesus.

Perhaps Matthew was speaking primarily to the Pharisees who were the Political leaders of the nation of Israel; while Luke was primarily addressing those who were more open to Spiritual truth. In Any case I'm speculating even though I question the value of speculating so maybe I've said enough.
 

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What is the point of Matthew 1 giving the Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah,
Coming from the bloodline of Joseph when Joseph isnt the bloodline jesus came from since mary was a virgin?
From the way I understand it? Mary's lineage, is of the "King" line, While Joseph's lineage, is of the "Priest" line.
 

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I concur.

The commonly held belief that Matthew's genealogy is through Jesus' stepfather Joseph and Luke's genealogy is through Mary, Jesus' mother, is wrong.

Another indicator that Matthew's genealogy is through Mary is in verse 17:

Matt 1:
17) So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

If the Joseph in Matt 1:16 is Mary's husband, then there are only 13 generations between the carrying away to Babylon and Christ. If the Joseph in verse 16 is Mary's father, then there are 14 generations.
Good observation. However, the vast differences between the two genealogies suggests that they are the lineage of different people; so I still favor regarding Matthews genealogy as that of Joseph.
 

shrume

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Good observation. However, the vast differences between the two genealogies suggests that they are the lineage of different people; so I still favor regarding Matthews genealogy as that of Joseph.
Of course they are lineages of different people. One lineage is through Mary, Jesus' mother, the other is through Joseph, Jesus' supposed father.

The issue is which one is Mary's and which one is Joseph's.

I believe Luke is quite clear when he states:

Luke 3:
23) And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

Joseph was the son of Heli.

As Hiz commented on concerning a Hebrew translation of Matt 1:16, the Joseph in Matt 1:16 is Mary's father, not her husband. And again, if you count the generations, if the Joseph in Matt 1:16 is Mary's husband, then there are only 13 generations from Babylon to Jesus.

Matthew portrays Jesus as King, so it is appropriate that Matthew presents Jesus' royal lineage. He is a literal blood descendant of King David on his mother's side. Luke portrays Jesus as a man. Luke's genealogy is through his supposed father, Joseph, and goes all the way back to Adam, the first man.
 

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Mt1:15
(9th) Eliud the father of Eleazar,
(10th) Eleazar the father of Matthan,
(11th) Matthan the father of Jacob,


Mt1:16
and (12th) Jacob the father of (13th) Joseph,
the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus,
who is called (14th) Christ.
You are counting Jacob 2 times.

You have it backwards.


Your counting is off. David is #14 in the first set of 14, not #1 in the second set.

The first set of 14 generations, from Abraham to David, are:
1) Abraham,
2) Isaac,
3) Jacob,
4) Judah,
5) Perez,
6) Hezron,
7) Ram,
8) Amminadab,
9) Nahshon,
10) Salmon,
11) Boaz,
12) Obed,
13) Jesse,
14) David.

The second set of 14 generation, from David to the carrying away to Babylon, are:

1) Solomon,
2) Rehoboam,
3) Abijah,
4) Asa,
5) Jehoshaphat,
6) Jehoram,
7) Uzziah,
8) Jotham,
9) Ahaz,
10) Hezekiah,
11) Manasseh,
12) Amon,
13) Josiah,
14) Jeconiah

From the carrying away to Babylon to Christ:
1) Shealtiel,
2) Zerubbabel,
3) Abiud,
4) Eliakim,
5) Azor,
6) Zadok,
7) Akim,
8) Eliud,
9) Eleazar,
10) Mattan,
11) Jacob,
12) Joseph
13) Mary,
14) Jesus.



The Bible clearly states that Heli was Joseph's father, not Mary's.

What Bible translation adds the word "and" in the phrase "and the son of Heli"? It's not in the Greek.
Mary and Joseph can only be counted as seperate generations. if the "Joseph" being spoken of is Mariams father, and there are 2 Josephs; if not Mariam (mother) and Joseph (step father) could not be 2 generations, seeing as they have different fathers it shows they are not the same poeple

Mt
1:15, "And Elihuḏ brought forth El‛azar, and El‛azar brought forth Mattan, and Mattan brought forth Ya‛aqoḇ."

Mt
1:16, "And Ya‛aqoḇ brought forth Yosĕph the father of Miryam, of whom was born יהושע who is called Messiah." (Yosĕph ben Ya‛aqoḇ)

Luke 3:23, "And when יהושע Himself began, He was about thirty years of age, being, as reckoned by law, son of Yosĕph, of Ěli,"

Yosĕph, ben Ěli husband of Mariam (Mat 1:15-16)
Yosĕph ben Ya‛aqoḇ father of Mariam (Luke 3:23)

Hizikyah;3351841[SIZE=4 said:
] [/SIZE]Mariam's father and husband had the same name, Yoseph/Joseph, a common name in Israyl. Matthew originall wrote his account in the Hebrew language, and copies of it in Hebrew survive to this day, yet that Hebrew version was taken and translated into Aramaic and Greek. In this translation "father" was changed to "husband." We don't know why but it seems the translatiors thought to "correct" the text, knowing that Joseph was Mariam's husbands name, and thinking "father" was an error. It is worth mentioning that the Hebrew version has a number of other proper readings where the versions translated from it have not 100% conveyed the original.

The Ebionites were a Christian sect that claimed to preserve the original autograph of apostle Matthew in Hebrew. It is quoted often by Epiphanius in the 300s. He said its official title was “The Gospel according to Matthew.” (Epiphanius, Panarion 30, 13, 2-3.)



Apostle John told Papias around 90 A.D. about this book of Matthew: “Matthew put together the oracles [of the Lord] in the Hebrew language, and each one interpreted them as best he could.” (Eusebius, Hist. Eccl. iii. 39, quoting Exposition of the Oracles of the Lord)


Irenaeus likewise says: “Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect.” (Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book III, Chapter I, quoted in Eusebius,
Ecclesiastical History, Book V, Chapter VIII.)


Jerome around 404 A.D. wrote of this too: “The Hebrew [Matthew] itself has been preserved until the present day in the library at Caesarea which Pamphilus so diligently gathered.” (Jerome, Lives of Illustrious Men, Chapter III.)


Matthew collected the oracles (ta logia) in the Hebrew language, and each interpreted them as best he could.” – Papias (Eusebius, H.E. 3.39.16)
 
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Bladerunner

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Yes originally I was troubled read ony 13 generations an was unsure of the proper reading, after a few years of study I found the Hebrew versions of Matt, and it seems they even have minor differences, but any way it;s written the Hebrew has 14 generations, and since it says "14 generations" in all versions we know that the one actually showing the 14 is correct.

To He who seeks finds! priaseYah!

From what I have been able to uncover, the Gospels were originally written in Hebrew of the day. It was not the same Hebrew as the OT was written in but it was Hebrew.

These generations could have been left out in later times as was the last 12 verses of Luke's Gospel.