What does a "liberally progressive Christian" mean?

[beastslayer1970]

The United Methodists have mostly strayed from a Bible based faith; but most Free Methodist churches are still quite sound.

I personally prefer a congregationally governed church polity; but the Free Methodists are doctrinally sound even to the practice of believers' baptism by immersion.

It is only a matter of time before the United Methodists split the denomination over Allowing Gay and Lesbian ministers.
This will crush the rural based middle of the country United Methodist churches.

The liberal progressive United Methodists in urban areas and on the coasts are pushing this each year at the general conference and each year they get closer and closer. It should surprise nobody when it is revealed how many gay and Lesbian ministers the Untied Methodists already have.

I agree very much with you on the bold above in your quote. Sadly, we left the Free Methodists about 15 years ago, not because of the doctrine, but they just seem to be more concerned with being Identified as Methodist than being Identified with Christ. It was most likely a state conference thing.

I have been invited to preach in some very doctrinal sound and Spirit filled Free Methodist churches the last few years. Most of these gems are in rural areas though.

 

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It is only a matter of time before the United Methodists split the denomination over Allowing Gay and Lesbian ministers.
This will crush the rural based middle of the country United Methodist churches.

The liberal progressive United Methodists in urban areas and on the coasts are pushing this each year at the general conference and each year they get closer and closer. It should surprise nobody when it is revealed how many gay and Lesbian ministers the Untied Methodists already have.

I agree very much with you on the bold above in your quote. Sadly, we left the Free Methodists about 15 years ago, not because of the doctrine, but they just seem to be more concerned with being Identified as Methodist than being Identified with Christ. It was most likely a state conference thing.

I have been invited to preach in some very doctrinal sound and Spirit filled Free Methodist churches the last few years. Most of these gems are in rural areas though.

Yes, our church is divided over the homosexual issue. I too look for a split. Another reason I'm looking for somewhere else to go. When a church becomes so big that a member is overlooked if they do not attend every time the door is open - that IMO is wrong. Anyway, how can minsters keep up with over 400 members and their spiritual health? Just saying, not slamming.

 

[Laish]

I saw this comment on another site and the person identifies themselves as such.

This is a serious question and I'm confused as to what that description actually means.

It’s been my experience that a liberal progressive Christian is someone that cares only about feeling good about themselves. They care about the right things or people. They desire to make sure those around them know that they have a superior understanding. Sense they care about the right things .They are the ones with compassion. If you disagree.They will seek to destroy , rewrite ,or belittle anything that stands in their way . This includes scripture The Church for starters . In my opinion they are on dangerous ground. The same ground as cult members.
Blessings
Bill

 

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It’s been my experience that a liberal progressive Christian is someone that cares only about feeling good about themselves. They care about the right things or people. They desire to make sure those around them know that they have a superior understanding. Sense they care about the right things .They are the ones with compassion. If you disagree.They will seek to destroy , rewrite ,or belittle anything that stands in their way . This includes scripture The Church for starters . In my opinion they are on dangerous ground. The same ground as cult members.
Blessings
Bill

I totally agree. I have come to dislike the word "progressive"

 

[mj007]

But with God, and the teachings of Jesus, there is something which unites us - loving each other.

As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;"

But most often, the subject of discussion and opinion, is all about who is right, who is wrong. And then Christianity divides and divides and divides, until we are all 'on the right side' and 'they are not'. That is why I sit on the fence.

Just be loving to those around you, surely? Love your enemy. Don't just love people who love you, seek out love where your righteous mind says people 'don't deserve' your love. That is the challenge.

Yes, our church is divided over the homosexual issue. I too look for a split. Another reason I'm looking for somewhere else to go. When a church becomes so big that a member is overlooked if they do not attend every time the door is open - that IMO is wrong. Anyway, how can minsters keep up with over 400 members and their spiritual health? Just saying, not slamming.

 

[beastslayer1970]

Yes, our church is divided over the homosexual issue. I too look for a split. Another reason I'm looking for somewhere else to go. When a church becomes so big that a member is overlooked if they do not attend every time the door is open - that IMO is wrong. Anyway, how can minsters keep up with over 400 members and their spiritual health? Just saying, not slamming.

This is the issue of the modern day church model and it is very wrong.

I do not think any church needs to be more than 150-200.

The local church be maturing, equipping and completing other 5 fold ministers as Eph 4 says we should. Those should then be sent out when they have been separated for a work as confirmed by the Holy Spirit.

They should go to another area and start a work[start home based and eventually add a church building] and then grow no more than 150-200 and the model is duplicated in other areas.

This is how the Bible says we do mega churches. Mega Doctrine, Mega Worship, Mega Spirit, mini people.

 

[beastslayer1970]

It’s been my experience that a liberal progressive Christian is someone that cares only about feeling good about themselves. They care about the right things or people. They desire to make sure those around them know that they have a superior understanding. Sense they care about the right things .They are the ones with compassion. If you disagree.They will seek to destroy , rewrite ,or belittle anything that stands in their way . This includes scripture The Church for starters . In my opinion they are on dangerous ground. The same ground as cult members.
Blessings
Bill

Social justice means that a practicing Gay or Lesbian can be teaching a Sunday School class and God is ok with that and if yu are not, you are a bigot, hater and intolerant.


We had to help a church that got completely ensnared by this. It was one of the roughest assignments God put us on.

 

[stonesoffire]

My opinion only....

I don't know how one who is a member of the body of Christ, can defend abortion. However, to shout bible verses at the women, mostly girls, at the clinics, or call them baby killers does not help. So that's the other end of this extreme thinking.

Also, I'll never understand how a Christian can say Obama was a good president! He was out to destroy capitalism and democracy, and still is. To put in place Islam.

Plus, I cannot understand why a Christian would be against Trump who has repented of his sin, prays everyday with his team, and has bible study before he takes his position.

And how can a Christian not want the Clintons jailed? And all their associates!

Why do Christians not defend their God as being the only God, and Jesus the only way to Him?

And why do Christians not heed Holy Spirit when He warns against sin in the Word, but has to go headlong in their own way until life falls apart? I think I can answer that one though.

Why do Christians not want to live a pure Holy life? And be a bright shining light in the darkness for Jesus?

Why are Christians not like Jesus? I question myself on this one all the time.

 

[beastslayer1970]

My opinion only....

I don't know how one who is a member of the body of Christ, can defend abortion. However, to shout bible verses at the women, mostly girls, at the clinics, or call them baby killers does not help. So that's the other end of this extreme thinking.

Also, I'll never understand how a Christian can say Obama was a good president! He was out to destroy capitalism and democracy, and still is. To put in place Islam.

Plus, I cannot understand why a Christian would be against Trump who has repented of his sin, prays everyday with his team, and has bible study before he takes his position.

And how can a Christian not want the Clintons jailed? And all their associates!

Why do Christians not defend their God as being the only God, and Jesus the only way to Him?

And why do Christians not heed Holy Spirit when He warns against sin in the Word, but has to go headlong in their own way until life falls apart? I think I can answer that one though.

Why do Christians not want to live a pure Holy life? And be a bright shining light in the darkness for Jesus?

Why are Christians not like Jesus? I question myself on this one all the time.

Christian's are not like Jesus because they focus on and mandate their political candidates to be the light and salt of the earth for them. Not a slam agaisnt you, but honestly? Keep your eyes on Jesus and not the politicians, Trump is not who the evangelicals think he is. He is nothing more than a populist, better than Clinton and Sanders, but still, a populist.

If there is any man who will take away the tax free status of the USA church, it is this man. It cannot happen fast enough, IMHO.

 

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This is the issue of the modern day church model and it is very wrong.

I do not think any church needs to be more than 150-200.

The local church be maturing, equipping and completing other 5 fold ministers as Eph 4 says we should. Those should then be sent out when they have been separated for a work as confirmed by the Holy Spirit.

They should go to another area and start a work[start home based and eventually add a church building] and then grow no more than 150-200 and the model is duplicated in other areas.

This is how the Bible says we do mega churches. Mega Doctrine, Mega Worship, Mega Spirit, mini people.

I absolutely agree

 

[Atlanta_GA]

People think that they are so righteous, but in reality their righteousness is of little value, but feel free to be a sicko, sicko.

 

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People think that they are so righteous, but in reality their righteousness is of little value, but feel free to be a sicko, sicko.

What is your point? What does this have to do with the OP?

 

[KelbyofGod]

My experience is that it's best to ask the actual person what is meant by any particular comment. Because anyone else's assumption of what was meant could be greatly in error... if only because the person who spoke actually chose the wrong words to describe himself/herself.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[star]

My opinion only....

I don't know how one who is a member of the body of Christ, can defend abortion. However, to shout bible verses at the women, mostly girls, at the clinics, or call them baby killers does not help. So that's the other end of this extreme thinking.

Also, I'll never understand how a Christian can say Obama was a good president! He was out to destroy capitalism and democracy, and still is. To put in place Islam.

Plus, I cannot understand why a Christian would be against Trump who has repented of his sin, prays everyday with his team, and has bible study before he takes his position.

And how can a Christian not want the Clintons jailed? And all their associates!

Why do Christians not defend their God as being the only God, and Jesus the only way to Him?

And why do Christians not heed Holy Spirit when He warns against sin in the Word, but has to go headlong in their own way until life falls apart? I think I can answer that one though.

Why do Christians not want to live a pure Holy life? And be a bright shining light in the darkness for Jesus?

Why are Christians not like Jesus? I question myself on this one all the time.

I totally agree with each paragraph above.

How can anyone, Christian or not, believe this country was not being led for 8 long years with the sole purpose to "bring this nation" to its knees and to try to "restructure" the Constitution of the USA. (that is still in the works under the guise of a shadow government.)

My opinion as well is that through legalizing abortion, America has come under the disdain of Almighty God, which we clearly see through evidence of moral decline.

President Trump is IMHO truly trying to get this nation back on track and following the Constitution under which we live. He has flaws and is only human, but he certainly has sacrificed a lot to take on this position. Not only has he personally sacrificed but so has his family.

Bottom line for me is that I seek to live a holy life but often I miss that mark. As for standing up my faith, I do my best but falter again often.

 

[crossnote]

No I have not, I have heard of a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Snakes are a bit slier than wolves

 

[Ellsworth1943]

I saw this comment on another site and the person identifies themselves as such.

This is a serious question and I'm confused as to what that description actually means.

It means they are not a Christian. Did not say they are not saved, but definitely are not a follower/disciple of Christ.

 

[Bladerunner]

Actually Christians cannot be liberally progressive and still maintain a Christian testimony. For example, Christians cannot support or condone abortion, gay rights, same sex marriage, transgender nonsense, etc. Neither can they support political anarchy, undermining the Constitution, undermining the laws of the land, or aiding and abetting terrorists and enemies of the state. And that is what the liberally progressives believe in.

Thus the So-Called Christians

 

[oldethennew]

I'm praying that they possess a heart to keep-on learning and growing in Christ,
and understanding His ways, in order to become united with Him and what
He requires of us...

 

[Speak2Me]

I saw this comment on another site and the person identifies themselves as such.

This is a serious question and I'm confused as to what that description actually means.

The word "oxymoron" comes to mind.

 

[Speak2Me]

It’s been my experience that a liberal progressive Christian is someone that cares only about feeling good about themselves. They care about the right things or people. They desire to make sure those around them know that they have a superior understanding. Sense they care about the right things .They are the ones with compassion. If you disagree.They will seek to destroy , rewrite ,or belittle anything that stands in their way . This includes scripture The Church for starters . In my opinion they are on dangerous ground. The same ground as cult members.
Blessings
Bill

You just perfectly described those in the Hyper-grace Movement