Who Cares?

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kaylagrl

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The following is written by William Booth. Whether you agree with him for various reasons is not the point.His vision disturbed when I first read this as a youth,it convicted me.It was one of the reasons I went in to ministry. It is long so I will try to cut it down as much as possible.I think every Christian ought to read this article.


I saw a dark and stormy ocean. Over it the black clouds hung heavily; through them every now and then vivid lightning flashed and loud thunder rolled, while the winds moaned, and the waves rose and foamed, towered and broke, only to rise and foam, tower and break again.
In that ocean I thought I saw myriads of poor human beings plunging and floating, shouting and shrieking, cursing and struggling and drowning; and as they cursed and screamed, they rose and shrieked again, and then some sank to rise no more.
And I saw out of this dark, angry ocean, a mighty rock that rose up with its summit towering high above the black clouds that overhung the stormy sea. And all around the base of this rock I saw a vast platform. Onto this platform, I saw with delight a number of the poor struggling, drowning wretches continually climbing out of the angry ocean. And I saw that a few of those, who were already safe on the platform, were helping the poor creatures still in the angry waters to reach the place of safety...

On looking more closely, I found a number of those who had been rescued, industriously working and scheming by ladders, ropes, boats, and other means more effective, to deliver the poor strugglers out of this sea. Here and there were some who actually jumped into the water, regardless of all the consequences, in their passion to “rescue the perishing.”

As I looked on, I saw that the occupants of that platform were quite a mixed company. That is, they were divided into different “sets” or classes, and they occupied themselves with different pleasures and employments. But only a very few of them seemed to make it their business to get the people out of the sea.

But what puzzled me most was the fact that though all of them had been rescued at one time or another from the ocean, nearly everyone seemed to have for gotten all about it.. Anyway, it seemed the memory of its darkness and danger no longer troubled them at all. And what seemed equally strange and perplexing to me was that these people did not even seem to have any care – that is, any agonizing care – about the poor perishing ones who were struggling and drowning right before their very eyes… many of whom were their own husbands and wives, brothers and sisters, and even their own children.

Now this astonishing unconcern could not have been the result of ignorance or lack of knowledge, because they lived right there in full sight of it all and even talked about it sometimes. Many even went regularly to hear lectures and sermons in which the awful state of these poor drowning creatures was described...

The thing to me that seemed the most amazing was that those on the platform to whom He called, who heard His voice and felt they ought to obey it – at least they said they did – those who confessed to love Him much and were in full sympathy with Him in the task He had undertaken – who worshipped Him or who professed to do so – were so taken up with their trades and professions, their money saving and pleasures, their families and circles, their religions and arguments about it, and their preparation for going to the mainland, that they did not listen to the cry that came to them from this Wonderful Being who had Himself gone down into the sea. Anyway, if they heard it, they did not heed it. They did not care. And so the multitude went on right before them struggling and shrieking and drowning in the darkness.

To be cont. in the next post...









 

notuptome

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Jesus cares. His heart is touched with my grief. "Does Jesus Care"

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kaylagrl

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Who Cares by William Booth


And then I saw something that seemed to me even more strange than anything that had gone on before in this strange vision. I saw that some of these people on the platform whom this Wonderful Being had called to, wanting them to come and help Him in His difficult task of saving these perishing creatures, were always praying and crying out to Him to come to them!
Some wanted Him to come and stay with them, and spend His time and strength in making them happier. Others wanted Him to come and take away various doubts and misgivings they had concerning the truth of some letters which He had written them. Some wanted Him to come and make them feel more secure on the rock – so secure that they would be quite sure that they should never slip off again into the ocean.

Numbers of others wanted Him to make them feel quite certain that they would really get off the rock and onto the mainland someday; because as a matter of fact, it was well known that some had walked so carelessly as to lose their footing and had fallen back again into the stormy waters.

So these people used to meet and get up as high on the rock as they could, and looking toward the mainland (where they thought the Great Being was) they would cry out, “Come to us! Come, help us!” And all the while He was down (by His Spirit) among the poor struggling, drowning creatures in the angry deep, with His arms around them trying to drag them out, and looking up oh! so longingly, but all in vain to those on the rock, crying to them with His voice all hoarse from calling, “Come to Me! Come and help Me!”

And then I understood it all. It was plain enough. That sea was the ocean of life – the sea of real, actual human existence. Those multitudes of people shrieking, struggling, and agonizing in the stormy sea were the thousands and thousands of poor harlots and harlot-makers, of drunkards and drunkard-makers, of thieves, liars, blasphemers, and ungodly people of every kindred, tongue, and nation.

Oh, what a black sea it was! And oh, what multitudes of rich and poor, ignorant and educated were there. They were all so unalike in their outward circumstances and conditions, yet all alike in one thing – all sinners before God – all held by, and holding onto, some iniquity, fascinated by some idol, the slaves of some devilish lust, and ruled by the foul fiend from the bottomless pit!



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kaylagrl

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Who Cares,William Booth

“All alike in one thing?” No, all alike in two things. Not only the same in their wickedness, but unless rescued, the same in their sinning, sinking… down, down, down… to the same terrible doom. That great sheltering rock represented Calvary, the place where Jesus had died for them. And the people on it were those who had been rescued. The way they used their energies, gifts, and time represented the occupations and amusements of those who professed to be saved from sin and hell – followers of the Lord Jesus Christ. The handful of fierce, determined ones, who were risking their own lives in saving the perishing, were true soldiers of the cross of Jesus. That Mighty Being who was calling to them from the midst of the angry waters was the Son of God, “the same yesterday, today, and forever,” who is still struggling and interceding to save the dying multitudes about us from this terrible doom of damnation, and whose voice can be heard above the music, machinery, and noise of life, calling on the rescued to come and help Him save the world.My friends in Christ, you are rescued from the waters. You are on the rock. He is in the dark sea calling on you to come to Him and help Him. Will you go?

Rescue the perishing,care for the dying,Jesus is merciful,Jesus will Save.
 

MichaelOwen

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I love you sis! Thank you for sharing this! That vision is such a great parallel!
 

notuptome

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Who Cares,William Booth
Rescue the perishing,care for the dying,Jesus is merciful,Jesus will Save.
May God restore this flavor in our churches. Oh that we might weep over lost souls and beg them through tear filled eyes to come to Jesus.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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kaylagrl

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I love you sis! Thank you for sharing this! That vision is such a great parallel!

​I love you too brother. It spoke to me as a young person,and it still does today.
 
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kaylagrl

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May God restore this flavor in our churches. Oh that we might weep over lost souls and beg them through tear filled eyes to come to Jesus.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Among other things,one place where the church has also let down is getting rid of the old hymns of the church. Many were full of our doctrines and truths of the Bible. I attend a small church with mostly folk older than myself.Im always amazed that many know none of the old hymns,many that I know by heart because I heard them in my youth. I attended a concert where they took requests and were they were stumped by "Love Lifted Me". I have no problem with some worship songs but we should have never taken the hymnbook out of the church IMO
 

MichaelOwen

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Among other things,one place where the church has also let down is getting rid of the old hymns of the church. Many were full of our doctrines and truths of the Bible. I attend a small church with mostly folk older than myself.Im always amazed that many know none of the old hymns,many that I know by heart because I heard them in my youth. I attended a concert where they took requests and were they were stumped by "Love Lifted Me". I have no problem with some worship songs but we should have never taken the hymnbook out of the church IMO
I love Love Lifted Me, and The Old Rugged Cross, gosh those are some of the best hymns, I'll Fly Away, How Great Thou Art, Pass Me Not, Heavens Jubilee, This Little Light of Mine, I could go on! Those to me mean more than the new style of worship being done these days. But maybe I'm just old fashioned, but those hymns speak a number to my heart. And I agree, the churches throwing out the old hymnals is a shame.
 

notuptome

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Among other things,one place where the church has also let down is getting rid of the old hymns of the church. Many were full of our doctrines and truths of the Bible. I attend a small church with mostly folk older than myself.Im always amazed that many know none of the old hymns,many that I know by heart because I heard them in my youth. I attended a concert where they took requests and were they were stumped by "Love Lifted Me". I have no problem with some worship songs but we should have never taken the hymnbook out of the church IMO
Here we are in agreement. The mainline denoms have taken the old hymn book out a long time ago. The very reason they did it is because of the doctrine the old hymns so grandly proclaimed. Music prepares the heart for worship and what better preparation than songs that glorify Christ.

I distain modern contemporary church music because it moves the foot and fails to move the heart. It has been well said that you can measure the temperature of the pulpit by the music in the pews. I fear most churches are well past lukewarm and have grown cold in their soul toward the lost. We need to heed the admonition to remember our first love.

How precious did that grace appear the hour I first believed.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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kaylagrl

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I love Love Lifted Me, and The Old Rugged Cross, gosh those are some of the best hymns, I'll Fly Away, How Great Thou Art, Pass Me Not, Heavens Jubilee, This Little Light of Mine, I could go on! Those to me mean more than the new style of worship being done these days. But maybe I'm just old fashioned, but those hymns speak a number to my heart. And I agree, the churches throwing out the old hymnals is a shame.

​Keep that tender heart brother. There is nothing like the old time way ;)
 

Joidevivre

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I heard once that every Christian needs but to read two things: The bible and an old hymn book. In those songs, you heard much about the cross, the blood and above all surrendering self.
 
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kaylagrl

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Here we are in agreement. The mainline denoms have taken the old hymn book out a long time ago. The very reason they did it is because of the doctrine the old hymns so grandly proclaimed. Music prepares the heart for worship and what better preparation than songs that glorify Christ.

I distain modern contemporary church music because it moves the foot and fails to move the heart. It has been well said that you can measure the temperature of the pulpit by the music in the pews. I fear most churches are well past lukewarm and have grown cold in their soul toward the lost. We need to heed the admonition to remember our first love.

How precious did that grace appear the hour I first believed.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I'd agree with those thoughts.I find most worship music to be repetitive. The words are usually quite shallow "bless me bless me bless me". I still sing "for such a worm as I". Its a grave pity to me that secularism has invaded the church.

I was discussing with my parents last Sunday a church we attended,before I was married. The young hip preacher of the church decided it was a great idea to have coffee,during the service,at the back of the room.He brought in cafe style round tables and people sat at the back of the church sipping coffee and talking DURING the service. My father reminded me that he took the service once when the pastor was away.He opened by saying " I expect people to respect the sharing of Gods Word. And I will be offended if you sit and drink coffee during this service." Not one person had coffee during that service.lol
 
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kaylagrl

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I heard once that every Christian needs but to read two things: The bible and an old hymn book. In those songs, you heard much about the cross, the blood and above all surrendering self.
Oh that is well said! I attended a church,the same coffee sipping church,that would sing worship hymns for 45mins or more! And all the older folk would try and stand though it. I would sit when I had enough.One of the ladies mentioned me sitting once and I said "well I don't make the effort to come to church to hear a concert of worship songs,I come to hear the Word preached.There is time for music but not above the Word." Im not sure how she took that.lol
 

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Among other things,one place where the church has also let down is getting rid of the old hymns of the church. Many were full of our doctrines and truths of the Bible. I attend a small church with mostly folk older than myself.Im always amazed that many know none of the old hymns,many that I know by heart because I heard them in my youth. I attended a concert where they took requests and were they were stumped by "Love Lifted Me". I have no problem with some worship songs but we should have never taken the hymnbook out of the church IMO
‘Love lifted me’ – boy does that take me back!

I loved that one. Man - when we sang those old hymns as a kid u could really “feel it“!

No hymns like the old hymns if u ask me……
 
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May God restore this flavor in our churches. Oh that we might weep over lost souls and beg them through tear filled eyes to come to Jesus.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
How about the lost come to us because they have grown an appetite for our fruit, got thirsty because of our salt and are attracted by our light and undone because of our love?
 
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Among other things,one place where the church has also let down is getting rid of the old hymns of the church. Many were full of our doctrines and truths of the Bible. I attend a small church with mostly folk older than myself.Im always amazed that many know none of the old hymns,many that I know by heart because I heard them in my youth. I attended a concert where they took requests and were they were stumped by "Love Lifted Me". I have no problem with some worship songs but we should have never taken the hymnbook out of the church IMO
I see it both ways. There are some modern worship songs that sound ok, but are full of false doctrine. I also believe some of the old hymns are as bad and some are even worse than modern worship songs that are correct in doctrine. Many of the Old hymns are great though.
 
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I love Love Lifted Me, and The Old Rugged Cross, gosh those are some of the best hymns, I'll Fly Away, How Great Thou Art, Pass Me Not, Heavens Jubilee, This Little Light of Mine, I could go on! Those to me mean more than the new style of worship being done these days. But maybe I'm just old fashioned, but those hymns speak a number to my heart. And I agree, the churches throwing out the old hymnals is a shame.
This is because the modern church has been influenced by the seducing spirits of media companies doing something called church every week. If you listen to the words of songs by the top 2 you would never buy their filth again.

We also do not need dark sanctuaries that resemble night clubs, discotheques and honkytonks. We also do not need light shows fog machines and all assorted seducing spirits being manifested by androgynous looking male worship leaders and sultry cleavage bearing worship leading women and both of them asking us to "enter in" , "experience" the spirit, gather your mind and a host of other demonic suggestive speaking.

Light cannot fellowship with dark.
 

notuptome

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How about the lost come to us because they have grown an appetite for our fruit, got thirsty because of our salt and are attracted by our light and undone because of our love?
Jesus did not tell us to wait for them to come but to go into the highways and byways and compel them to come in. I can only point to Christ for I have nothing to be desired except Him.

Christians are to be separate from the world. If we look like them, smell like them and sound like them they will not ever learn of our Christ.

2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

That means music as well as our walk before the world.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Jesus did not tell us to wait for them to come but to go into the highways and byways and compel them to come in. I can only point to Christ for I have nothing to be desired except Him.

Christians are to be separate from the world. If we look like them, smell like them and sound like them they will not ever learn of our Christ.

2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

That means music as well as our walk before the world.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

So you just basically said something I never said. Please show me how I said we are to be the world to get the world?