Christ-mass is Pagan.

[kaylagrl]

What's the difference between the hypocrisy of wasting time and energy on Christmas compared to watching that YouTube video?

Speaking of wasting time... I'm done, for now.

My mother has a habit of keeping Christmas cards,those damnable things,as much as Ive tried to tell her its just clutter. Well now Im older. Seven of my close relatives have died,mainly to cancer.When I thumb through those old cards and see the signature of my aunt,who died at the age of 43 to cancer,and see her little note of cheer signed "I love you" I do not think of a pagan holiday or worship of a lit tree. I think of the things you mentioned,all the wonderful memories,funny memories,sad memories and am thankful I had those moments.

I recall one year when all the spouses were put out with each other for one reason or another.It was about to be a pretty tense Christmas until one uncle slammed down the ketchup bottle and squirted my other uncle with a nice red layer of the condiment.Everyone cracked up and we always talk about that year to this day.

 

[JaumeJ]

The story of the announcement, the naming of our Lord and His Birth in the House of Bread (Bethlehem) is written in the Word.

If we are to beliee Paul's teaching is inspired and we have heard and understnd his teacing on when a man revere's one dayover another in the sight of God, Yahweh, and it iw with a good conscience, there is not sin.

The same holds true for a man with good conscience inthe sight of God, Yahweh, who does not revere that same day.

They both are justified. It is for this cause I continue to recognize the 25th for the commemoration of the recounting inthe Word of His Birth.

Since no one know3s the day for certain, in order to promote our Savior with as many as will hear of Him, I like the 25th for me.

I do not fault anyone who with a clear conscience in the sight of Yahweh does not . If people observed Hi birth in Juine, I would also.


The truth is He was bron to live a life with much trial and sufferig only to overcome all for each of us who cannot without His victory.

Yeshua, Jesus, is returning soon, hallelujah, amen.

 

[Muzungu256]

christmas is pagan boohoo! haters gonna hate. we celebrate.

o come all ye faithful, silent night u see........ all the carols rewritten with a rhythm. who can hate on that?

feasting on good foods, rice gungo oxtails roasted duck u see......
drinking sorrel u see........

cheers! merry christmas

 

[JaumeJ]

One more, Paul has taught us either view of Christmas is without sin as long as either also has a clear conscience in the sight of God, Yahweh.

.The important factor of our faith is love, and we should not fault or ridicule any with either position.

Faith produces love. Let us love one another and always show it in order to draw those not yet with us to Yehua, Jesus.

 

[blue_ladybug]

You are so wise..

One more, Paul has taught us either view of Christmas is without sin as long as either also has a clear conscience in the sight of God, Yahweh.

.The important factor of our faith is love, and we should not fault or ridicule any with either position.

Faith produces love. Let us love one another and always show it in order to draw those not yet with us to Yehua, Jesus.

 

[BillG]

One more, Paul has taught us either view of Christmas is without sin as long as either also has a clear conscience in the sight of God, Yahweh.

.The important factor of our faith is love, and we should not fault or ridicule any with either position.

Faith produces love. Let us love one another and always show it in order to draw those not yet with us to Yehua, Jesus.

Amen and will said.

 

[tanakh]

We drink wine and eat sugar plums soaked in vodka while dancing around the tree half naked and decorated with Silver and gold balls in honor of the sun and moon......how about you?

I go for making an effigy of the snow God and celebrate by flinging balls of the stuff at fellow worshipers. Your form of Paganism sounds more like fun though I dont like the idea of being half naked in a British winter

 

[Susanna]

I go for making an effigy of the snow God and celebrate by flinging balls of the stuff at fellow worshipers.

I can't decide on whether you or Posthuman gets to throw the 2017 CC Christmas party.

 

[Angela53510]

There ought to be a rule on CC that anyone who starts a thread haranguing against Christmas before Dec. 1 gets instantly banned, no questions asked.

Come to think of it, there ought to be a rule, that whoever starts a thread ever, telling other Christians not to celebrate Christmas gets banned instantly, no questions asked.

Come to think of it, there ought to be a law that any stores, radio and TV stations, etc from putting up decorations and playing Christmas or showing Christmas movies before December 1 gets thrown onto death row, never to get leave, except the bad way!

But, definitely no threads before or on American Thanksgiving. That is too early for anyone to start this nonsense!

 

[Angela53510]

When I taught elementary school, this was the season to explain who Christ was, to students from every country and every religious background or none. Pedagogically, I justified it, because they heard the Christmas carols being played, and they needed to know what the music was about. And the kids saw the hoopla, and got a holiday because it was Christmas, so they should know what it was about. The last day of school before the Christmas holidays, I brought in a children's Bible with lots of pictures, and told the whole story, right up to the resurrection. Not once in 10 years did I ever get called on it.

However, with SJW taking over Canada, and tolerance meaning only for the left, to say nothing of restrictions on free speech and the brain washing of young North Americans, I likely wouldn't get away with it today.

I don't know if any of those children from India, Africa, Arab countries, to say nothing of secular homes became Christians. But, I was able to sow the first seeds. I always prayed someone would be there to water, another to harvest, as God gives leads

 

[Dai3234]

How would you know? From your vast travels to so many churches, and, of course, you made this all about America, so you have vast experience in American churches too?

Sorry, but you've already told of what you know of church, and it's not much knowledge you have. Then again, you think this is all about what everyone else does, without ever bringing up what you (don't) do, so this is very lame.

You're the guy that hides away from people because you live away from them and don't want to deal with anyone anyway. So church? To you church is just one place, and a place you don't like going to or interacting with anyone when you do go. You're laying this on everyone else's feet, when really your problems are worse. Not because you can't overcome them. Because you don't want to overcome them. Much easier to sound relevant than be relevant.

You're neither sounding nor being relevant, so you laid nothing at anyone else's feet.

Not really sure what your on about. I go to church and Bible study/prayer, and Saturday is the alternative pastor ever two weeks for a few months. Then I work days. I suppose it's my fault going to work and not being unemployed or retired, so I can't go to the churches daily coffee mornings. And they don't do evenings for working people, so yeah, not much choice in avoiding them unless I get sacked, oh but wait, I need money to get to church in the next town.

I actually wanted to know what reason/excuses people have so I can check if I'm right or wrong, and don't really mind if you do or don't. But you've obviously got a clingy defensive position on Christmas, so just say you enjoy it and don't see a problem and stop arguing if you don't have a point. Sorry but I'm not interested in arguing about how snooty I am.

 

[Dai3234]

When I taught elementary school, this was the season to explain who Christ was, to students from every country and every religious background or none. Pedagogically, I justified it, because they heard the Christmas carols being played, and they needed to know what the music was about. And the kids saw the hoopla, and got a holiday because it was Christmas, so they should know what it was about. The last day of school before the Christmas holidays, I brought in a children's Bible with lots of pictures, and told the whole story, right up to the resurrection. Not once in 10 years did I ever get called on it.

However, with SJW taking over Canada, and tolerance meaning only for the left, to say nothing of restrictions on free speech and the brain washing of young North Americans, I likely wouldn't get away with it today.

I don't know if any of those children from India, Africa, Arab countries, to say nothing of secular homes became Christians. But, I was able to sow the first seeds. I always prayed someone would be there to water, another to harvest, as God gives leads

That seems great, I think it's useful in a way, but I'm not sure if it crosses with the "What lie did Paul say" thread, in regards to lying in order to further God's glory??? I think it's probable ok in regards to the celebration of his birth and the gospel, but everything else like the tree and gifts (and I don't know where carols came from, some seem dodgy?). Are we not just making a sales pitch for Christ at Christmas. I thought the songs were the Psalms, though most churches don't sing them here?

Too old fashioned probably.
Then again it is hard to let go of the sparkle. Magpie I suppose.

 

[Dude653]

In other news.
Grass is green.

 

[Dai3234]

In other news.
Grass is green.

Unless it's bluegrass

 

[Susanna]

Unless it's bluegrass

But that's only in Kentucky lol.

 

[iamsoandso]

There ought to be a rule on CC that anyone who starts a thread haranguing against Christmas before Dec. 1 gets instantly banned, no questions asked.

Come to think of it, there ought to be a rule, that whoever starts a thread ever, telling other Christians not to celebrate Christmas gets banned instantly, no questions asked.

Come to think of it, there ought to be a law that any stores, radio and TV stations, etc from putting up decorations and playing Christmas or showing Christmas movies before December 1 gets thrown onto death row, never to get leave, except the bad way!

But, definitely no threads before or on American Thanksgiving. That is too early for anyone to start this nonsense!

Lol,,as an American I'm confused. You do realize that America refers to a continent and not a nation right? There is a nation(COUNTRY NOT CONTINENT) that is at the moment in the American continent but well you see I'm confused with the next post where you say you are a "TEACHER",,,spooky maybe I misspelled something...

 

[KelbyofGod]

The way I remember it being taught, it's North America, South America and Central America

 

[Grandpa]

The way I remember it being taught, it's North America, South America and Central America

Do they all have Thanksgiving?

 

[iamsoandso]

myself I think not,,, turkey,Indians, showing them how to grow food and eat and stuff makes me think 13 colonies and the like,,,maybe even before the U.S. was founded...

 

[ChristWhoLivesInMe]

Did you ever think maybe these pagan practices are redeemed if they are used in a way to glorify God? Let us say a Christmas tree causes people in a family or community to be happy and feel kind toward one another, is it not redeemed?

What makes you feel happy and kind toward others without a tree throughout the rest of the year? Goodness and joy is the fruit of the spirit, which as Christian should already have. See Gal 5:22. “But the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness,………”

If you lack living in the spirit and producing the fruit thereof, shouldn’t you be seeking the Spirit instead of using a tree once a year to feel kindness toward others?