The King James Bible

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Nov 24, 2017
1,004
31
0
Yes it is a lot of 37s in one place but the question many of us are asking is: So what? What does that mean? How does it prove KJV was a divinely inspired translation?
How do you think these patterns ended up in the King James Bible? Was it of men or of God. I have stated that even words such as "a", "the", "thee", "thou", "and", "of" are patterned. I have been on this thread all day waiting for someone to deny and prove that there are no such patterns in the King James Bible. The patterns in Matthew 1:1; Mark 1:1; John 1:1; John 18:37: 3 John 1:12; Revelation 19:12; Ecclesiastes 12:10 are on this thread and can be examined. I presented the number 46 and its connection with DNA and the words that Adam spoke in Genesis 2, and not 1 response. Count the number of words the serpent speaks to Eve and you will see that a seed was planted. The King James Bible is absolutely amazing.
 
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,718
113
Why are you trying to change the subject?
Let's discuss tangible facts. Why is it that you are described here almost perfectly? See? You cannot even begin to speak of or glorify Christ-- instead you go right into exalting a version of Bible after you've been shown the fact you don't wich to talk of Christ.

Address this and explain why this describes you. It is doctrinally accurate and biblical and shows why you are off track:

You're proving something I've said and have always observed among you KJVO'er cultists: KJVO'ers rarely speak of Christ, the Gospel or any sound doctrine.

The entire focus is on a version of Bible.

The "faith" of said persons is more interested, founded and dependent upon a version than in Christ, therefore all errors within her pages are defended to ad nauseam, and with absurd conclusions and arguments.

Christ is rarely if ever exalted by KJVO'ers to the extent these exalt a version of the Bible. Their faith is then in a version, that is quite apparent, and frankly saddening.

Here's the clincher: this is not of the Holy Spirit. His ministry is to exalt the person of Christ, not to exalt any of several translations of Scripture; John 16:14.
Go ahead and answer us and explain why the above describes you and how you behave. Thanks.
 
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,718
113
No mention of Jesus Christ in any posts. I don't care how much you divide the Bible up or which Bible you use to do it. If at the end, you do not have Jesus first on that list, you are not a Christian, and all your study is just ashes!
Yep, that right there!
 
Nov 24, 2017
1,004
31
0
Let's discuss tangible facts. Why is it that you are described here almost perfectly? See? You cannot even begin to speak of or glorify Christ-- instead you go right into exalting a version of Bible after you've been shown the fact you don't wich to talk of Christ.

Address this and explain why this describes you. It is doctrinally accurate and biblical and shows why you are off track:



Go ahead and answer us and explain why the above describes you and how you behave. Thanks.
If I exalt the word of God then Jesus Christ is exalted. I say the word of God is perfect even as the Word of God is perfect and that is Jesus Christ. There are no errors in Jesus nor are there any errors in His book.
 
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,718
113
If I exalt the word of God then Jesus Christ is exalted. I say the word of God is perfect even as the Word of God is perfect and that is Jesus Christ. There are no errors in Jesus nor are there any errors in His book.
Oh, so Jesus gets a token response from you after much prompting.

Now, share with us why the post below describes you:

You're proving something I've said and have always observed among you KJVO'er cultists: KJVO'ers rarely speak of Christ, the Gospel or any sound doctrine.

The entire focus is on a version of Bible.

The "faith" of said persons is more interested, founded and dependent upon a version than in Christ, therefore all errors within her pages are defended to ad nauseam, and with absurd conclusions and arguments.

Christ is rarely if ever exalted by KJVO'ers to the extent these exalt a version of the Bible. Their faith is then in a version, that is quite apparent, and frankly saddening.

Here's the clincher: this is not of the Holy Spirit. His ministry is to exalt the person of Christ, not to exalt any of several translations of Scripture; John 16:14.
 
May 11, 2014
936
39
0
How do you think these patterns ended up in the King James Bible? Was it of men or of God. I have stated that even words such as "a", "the", "thee", "thou", "and", "of" are patterned. I have been on this thread all day waiting for someone to deny and prove that there are no such patterns in the King James Bible. The patterns in Matthew 1:1; Mark 1:1; John 1:1; John 18:37: 3 John 1:12; Revelation 19:12; Ecclesiastes 12:10 are on this thread and can be examined. I presented the number 46 and its connection with DNA and the words that Adam spoke in Genesis 2, and not 1 response. Count the number of words the serpent speaks to Eve and you will see that a seed was planted. The King James Bible is absolutely amazing.
I see. Do other bible versions have any patterns? The chances are if you put some time into it, you would probably find similar patterns in the ESV NASB and NIV
 

John146

Senior Member
Jan 13, 2016
16,642
3,533
113
You're proving something I've said and have always observed among you KJVO'er cultists: KJVO'ers rarely speak of Christ, the Gospel or any sound doctrine.

The entire focus is on a version of Bible.

The "faith" of said persons is more interested, founded and dependent upon a version than in Christ, therefore all errors within her pages are defended to ad nauseam, and with absurd conclusions and arguments.

Christ is rarely if ever exalted by KJVO'ers to the extent these exalt a version of the Bible. Their faith is then in a version, that is quite apparent, and frankly saddening.

Here's the clincher: this is not of the Holy Spirit. His ministry is to exalt the person of Christ, not to exalt any of several translations of Scripture; John 16:14.
One things for sure, if a version is not perfect and pure it is of the devil. Do you have a version you trust every word to be perfect and pure? If not, throw it out and don't read or study from it because it is from the devil. It has always been his attempt to get people to doubt God's words. Either we have one that we can trust, or none. There is no other choice.
 
Nov 24, 2017
1,004
31
0
Oh, so Jesus gets a token response from you after much prompting.

Now, share with us why the post below describes you:

I have quoted Matthew 1:1, Mark 1:1, John 1:1, John 18:38; Revelation 19:12. Is not Jesus present in his own word. He speaks for Himself through his word and does not need any help from me.
 
Nov 24, 2017
1,004
31
0
I see. Do other bible versions have any patterns? The chances are if you put some time into it, you would probably find similar patterns in the ESV NASB and NIV
I have already looked; even the most basic patterns are not present.
 

Laish

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2016
1,666
448
83
57
I have already looked; even the most basic patterns are not present.
Ok whats the website for the program for the other versions programs
Blesdings
Bill
 
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,718
113
I have quoted Matthew 1:1, Mark 1:1, John 1:1, John 18:38; Revelation 19:12. Is not Jesus present in his own word. He speaks for Himself through his word and does not need any help from me.
Yes, I saw that. Now address why you are described below:

You're proving something I've said and have always observed among you KJVO'er cultists: KJVO'ers rarely speak of Christ, the Gospel or any sound doctrine.

The entire focus is on a version of Bible.

The "faith" of said persons is more interested, founded and dependent upon a version than in Christ, therefore all errors within her pages are defended to ad nauseam, and with absurd conclusions and arguments.

Christ is rarely if ever exalted by KJVO'ers to the extent these exalt a version of the Bible. Their faith is then in a version, that is quite apparent, and frankly saddening.

Here's the clincher: this is not of the Holy Spirit. His ministry is to exalt the person of Christ, not to exalt any of several translations of Scripture; John 16:14.
 

shrume

Senior Member
Jun 26, 2017
2,193
463
83
One things for sure, if a version is not perfect and pure it is of the devil.
Then all translations, including the KJV, are of the devil.

There is NO perfect translation.

Do you have a version you trust every word to be perfect and pure?
No. The ONLY texts that are "perfect and pure" are the original autographs.

If not, throw it out and don't read or study from it because it is from the devil.
Then you need to throw out the KJV.

It has always been his attempt to get people to doubt God's words.
That's right. But the KJV is not God-breathed. It is a translation of copies of copies of some manuscripts. Since the KJV translation was completed, MANY manuscripts have been discovered that are older than the manuscripts the KJV was translated from. It behooves us a Christians to make every effort to get back to the original God-breathed words.

Either we have one that we can trust, or none. There is no other choice.
There is no perfect translation. Every single one of them contains errors. Even if we had a flawless copy of the original manuscripts, there would still be errors in translations. Even when the translators do their best to be honest in their translation, errors creep in due to differences in culture, idioms, and at times the bias of the translators.

Only the original autographs are God-breathed. There is no God-breathed translation, in any language.
 

shrume

Senior Member
Jun 26, 2017
2,193
463
83
That said, I like the KJV, but also use the ESV, HCSB, NIV, and others when studying.

(the 5 minute edit window is too short..)
 
Nov 24, 2017
1,004
31
0
“He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.” Revelation 22:20




“He” (case sensitive) 742nd (7x 53 x 2) verse containing this word.
“He” 3071st (37 x 83) time this word occurs in the Bible.
“which” 3783rd verse in Bible containing this word (case sensitive)
“which” (case sensitive) 1281 (7 x 3 x 61) verse in the New Testament
“testifieth” 63rd (3 x 7 x 3) of any form of the word testify (testified etc.)
“testifieth” 35th (7 x 5) occurrence of this word in the New Testament
“these” 1225th (7 x 7 x 25) occurrence of this word in the Bible
“these” 1147th (37x31) verse in the Bible containing this word.
“these” (case sensitive) 999th (37x 27) occurrence in the Bible
“these” (case sensitive) 333 (37x9) occurrence in the New Testament
“these” (any case) 392 (7 x 7 x 8) occurrence in the NT
“these” (any case) 371 (7 x 53) verse in NT
“these things” (case sensitive) 245th (7 x 7 x 5) verse in the Bible
“things” 728 (7 x 13 x 8) occurrence of word in NT
“thing*(* is wild card) 1517(37 x 41) verse in Bible
“saith” 1197 (3x7x3x19) verse in Bible
“saith” 307th verse of NT
“Surely” 7th occurrence in the NT
“Sure*” 333rd (37x3x3) verse in the Bible
“I come” 56th (7x8) occurrence in the Bible
“come” (case sensitive) 533 (7x19x4) verse in the NT
“come” (case sensitive) 1848 (77x3x8) occurrence in Bible in 737 chapters
“come” (any case) 1971 (73 x 27) occurrence in the Bible
“quick*” (case sensitive) 74th (37x2) occurrence in Bible
“quick*” (any case) 74th (37 x 2) verse
“Amen” 77th occurrence in the Bible
“Even” 1393 (7x199) occurrence in the Bible
“Even” 273 (3x7x13) verse in the NT
“so” (case sensitive) 1022 (73 x 7 x 2) verse in the Bible
“so” (any case) 375th occurrence in the NT
“so” (case sensitive) 294th (3x7x7x2) occurrence in the NT
"come" (case sensitive) 560 (7x5x16) occurrence in the NT (2nd time come occurs)
“Lord” (case sensitive) (37x18) occurrence in the NT
“Lord*” 8008 (77x13x8) occurrence in the Bible
“Lord*” (case sensitive) 1078 (7 x77x2) verse in the Bible
“Lord*” 735th (7x7x3x5) occurrence in the NT
“Lord*” 674th (337 x 2) verse in the NT
“Jesus” (case sensitive) 966 (7x3x46)


If you believe this is random chance the you probably believe in evolution also.

 
Last edited:
Nov 24, 2017
1,004
31
0
“He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.” Revelation 22:20




“He” (case sensitive) 742nd (7x 53 x 2) verse containing this word.
“He” 3071st (37 x 83) time this word occurs in the Bible.
“which” 3783rd verse in Bible containing this word (case sensitive)
“which” (case sensitive) 1281 (7 x 3 x 61) verse in the New Testament
“testifieth” 63rd (3 x 7 x 3) of any form of the word testify (testified etc.)
“testifieth” 35th (7 x 5) occurrence of this word in the New Testament
“these” 1225th (7 x 7 x 25) occurrence of this word in the Bible
“these” 1147th (37x31) verse in the Bible containing this word.
“these” (case sensitive) 999th (37x 27) occurrence in the Bible
“these” (case sensitive) 333 (37x9) occurrence in the New Testament
“these” (any case) 392 (7 x 7 x 8) occurrence in the NT
“these” (any case) 371 (7 x 53) verse in NT
“these things” (case sensitive) 245th (7 x 7 x 5) verse in the Bible
“things” 728 (7 x 13 x 8) occurrence of word in NT
“thing*(* is wild card) 1517(37 x 41) verse in Bible
“saith” 1197 (3x7x3x19) verse in Bible
“saith” 307th verse of NT
“Surely” 7th occurrence in the NT
“Sure*” 333rd (37x3x3) verse in the Bible
“I come” 56th (7x8) occurrence in the Bible
“come” (case sensitive) 533 (7x19x4) verse in the NT
“come” (case sensitive) 1848 (77x3x8) occurrence in Bible in 737 chapters
“come” (any case) 1971 (73 x 27) occurrence in the Bible
“quick*” (case sensitive) 74th (37x2) occurrence in Bible
“quick*” (any case) 74th (37 x 2) verse
“Amen” 77th occurrence in the Bible
“Even” 1393 (7x199) occurrence in the Bible
“Even” 273 (3x7x13) verse in the NT
“so” (case sensitive) 1022 (73 x 7 x 2) verse in the Bible
“so” (any case) 375th occurrence in the NT
“so” (case sensitive) 294th (3x7x7x2) occurrence in the NT
"come" (case sensitive) 560 (7x5x16) occurrence in the NT (2nd time come occurs)
“Lord” (case sensitive) (37x18) occurrence in the NT
“Lord*” 8008 (77x13x8) occurrence in the Bible
“Lord*” (case sensitive) 1078 (7 x77x2) verse in the Bible
“Lord*” 735th (7x7x3x5) occurrence in the NT
“Lord*” 674th (337 x 2) verse in the NT
“Jesus” (case sensitive) 966 (7x3x46)


If you believe this is random chance the you probably believe in evolution also.

The amazing thing is that the next verse and last verse of the King James Bible is patterned. Truly amazing.

"Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it." (Psalm 119:140)
 

Angela53510

Senior Member
Jan 24, 2011
11,780
2,943
113

281 is not evenly divisible by 37.

you've already decided, and stated, that the actual scripture isn't as important to you as the KJV.

now you need to decide whether the number 37 is more important to you than the KJV.

i'm interested to see what you do
It is that simple and the can be proven from the Bible.
What I want to know, without your crazy numbers, is do you know Jesus as Lord and Saviour. I prefer Greek, and Hebrew over a translation that used corrupted manuscripts.

But when all is said and done, is Jesus going to say, "Well done thou good and faithful servant," Or is he going to say,"What was all the stupid number nonsense about? I called you, not bad math!"

PH has already shown you your simple math errors. And it doesn't matter if the version is perfect, what matters is knowing Jesus Christ, who is perfect.

Do you know Jesus??

No numbers in your reply, please!
 
Nov 24, 2017
1,004
31
0
What I want to know, without your crazy numbers, is do you know Jesus as Lord and Saviour. I prefer Greek, and Hebrew over a translation that used corrupted manuscripts.

But when all is said and done, is Jesus going to say, "Well done thou good and faithful servant," Or is he going to say,"What was all the stupid number nonsense about? I called you, not bad math!"

PH has already shown you your simple math errors. And it doesn't matter if the version is perfect, what matters is knowing Jesus Christ, who is perfect.

Do you know Jesus??

No numbers in your reply, please!
Are you referring to the numbers that God placed in the Bible? They are crazy huh? I did not put them there. God did. I have been a christian all of my life.