the kingdom of Heaven...the Kingdom of God ?

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There is no difference in the Kingdom of Heaven and Kingdom of God ive Heard this before, this should sort of help with those who arent clear, and help support those who already Knew this.


Luke 8:10 "And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand."



matthew 13 :10-11"the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given."

the same record different words from different men, the same message, the same event





Luke writes the Kingdom of God, matthew, the Kingdom of Heaven, both of the same event.....there is no difference in the Kingdom of God, and the Kingdom of Heaven, only which author wrote the Gospel whether they used the term Kingdom of Heaven, of Kingdom of God.


another example of this


mark 1:14-15 "Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, .And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."


Matthew 4 :12-17 "Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee; ,,,,,v 17From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

you see mark uses the term Kingdom of God, matthew uses Kingdom of Heaven, clearly it is the same event however and same teaching



one writes " the Kingdom of Heaven," the other "the Kingdom of God" there is no difference both are the Kingdom man was waiting for, the eternal Kingdom of Jesus Christ. there is only the One Gospel of the Kingdom of God.


Preached first by Jesus, then by His apostles, and we have also the miracles and works God has done and does in our lives still to witness also. (see Hebrews ch 1 : 1-5)


One final example



Luke 13 : Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God like? and whereunto shall I resemble it? 19It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it."


matthew 13:31-32 "parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof."




just that last example to clearly show that there is no difference between the Kingdom of Heaven, and Kingdom of God. the same teachings, different words.....I hope this is helpful to someone God bless !
 

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Thy kingdom come[future]. Thy will be done [on] earth, as it is[currently done] in heaven.
 
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Matthew 11:12
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
 

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Matthew 11:12
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

KOG and KOH are two different things. Simply put, God and heaven are two different terms in the bible with two different meanings.

KOH is a literal place, pointing to the literal kingdom of Israel on earth as God promised.

KOG is the spiritual kingdom in which the believer dwells. It's within us.
 
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Luke 17:21-

[SUP]21 [/SUP]Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
 
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I'm beginning to suspect that *James37* isn't the only one here who is obsessed with irrelevant minutia.
 
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The Kingdom of God and The Kingdom of Heaven
are two terms which are used throughout the New Testament.
They are interchangeable.

The meaning has to be gleaned by the entire thought.
The Kingdom of God begins here on earth. The Kingdom of heaven also begins here on earth.
Both are on earth and in heaven, with the beginning here.



Question: "What is the difference between the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven?"

Answer:
While some believe that the
Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven are referring to different things, it is clear that both phrases are referring to the same thing. The phrase “kingdom of God” occurs 68 times in 10 different New Testament books, while “kingdom of heaven” occurs only 32 times, and only in the Gospel of Matthew. Based on Matthew’s exclusive use of the phrase and the Jewish nature of his Gospel, some interpreters have concluded that Matthew was writing concerning the millennial kingdom while the other New Testament authors were referring to the universal kingdom. However, a closer study of the use of the phrase reveals that this interpretation is in error.

For example, speaking to the rich young ruler, Christ uses “kingdom of heaven” and “kingdom of God” interchangeably. “Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven’” (
Matthew 19:23). In the very next verse, Christ proclaims, “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” (verse 24). Jesus makes no distinction between the two terms but seems to consider them synonymous.

Mark and Luke used “kingdom of God” where Matthew used “kingdom of heaven” frequently in parallel accounts of the same parable Compare
Matthew 11:11-12 with Luke 7:28; Matthew 13:11with Mark 4:11 and Luke 8:10; Matthew 13:24 with Mark 4:26; Matthew 13:31 with Mark 4:30 and Luke 13:18; Matthew 13:33 with Luke 13:20; Matthew 18:3 with Mark 10:14 and Luke 18:16; and Matthew 22:2 with Luke 13:29. In each instance, Matthew used the phrase “kingdom of heaven” while Mark and/or Luke used “kingdom of God.” Clearly, the two phrases refer to the same thing.

Recommended Resource: The Moody Handbook of Theology by Paul Enns
 

John146

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The Kingdom of God and The Kingdom of Heaven
are two terms which are used throughout the New Testament.
They are interchangeable.

The meaning has to be gleaned by the entire thought.
The Kingdom of God begins here on earth. The Kingdom of heaven also begins here on earth.
Both are on earth and in heaven, with the beginning here.



Question: "What is the difference between the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven?"

Answer:
While some believe that the
Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven are referring to different things, it is clear that both phrases are referring to the same thing. The phrase “kingdom of God” occurs 68 times in 10 different New Testament books, while “kingdom of heaven” occurs only 32 times, and only in the Gospel of Matthew. Based on Matthew’s exclusive use of the phrase and the Jewish nature of his Gospel, some interpreters have concluded that Matthew was writing concerning the millennial kingdom while the other New Testament authors were referring to the universal kingdom. However, a closer study of the use of the phrase reveals that this interpretation is in error.

For example, speaking to the rich young ruler, Christ uses “kingdom of heaven” and “kingdom of God” interchangeably. “Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven’” (
Matthew 19:23). In the very next verse, Christ proclaims, “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” (verse 24). Jesus makes no distinction between the two terms but seems to consider them synonymous.

Mark and Luke used “kingdom of God” where Matthew used “kingdom of heaven” frequently in parallel accounts of the same parable Compare
Matthew 11:11-12 with Luke 7:28; Matthew 13:11with Mark 4:11 and Luke 8:10; Matthew 13:24 with Mark 4:26; Matthew 13:31 with Mark 4:30 and Luke 13:18; Matthew 13:33 with Luke 13:20; Matthew 18:3 with Mark 10:14 and Luke 18:16; and Matthew 22:2 with Luke 13:29. In each instance, Matthew used the phrase “kingdom of heaven” while Mark and/or Luke used “kingdom of God.” Clearly, the two phrases refer to the same thing.

Recommended Resource: The Moody Handbook of Theology by Paul Enns
In Matthew 5, the Kingdom of Heaven is spoken about and it says that if one sinned against God that he would go to hell. While Paul taught that the Kingdom of God is where the Christian lived(Romans 14:17). If the two are same then there is a contradiction that the Christian's salvation includes works.

Matthew 25:14-30 talks about the Kingdom of Heaven where an unfaithful servant goes to hell. Luke 19:12-27 talks about the Kingdom of God where the unfaithful servant loses his rewards and this matches up with the Christian at the Judgment Seat of Christ(2 Cor. 5:10). There is obviously a difference between the two kingdoms.
 

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Saints shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, (Daniel 7:18)
We shall inherit the earth. (Psalms 25:13-22:26, 37:9, 22,29) not flesh and blood.
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It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name
of the city from that day shall be, The Lord is there. (Ezekiel 48:35)

17At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and
all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem:
neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go
no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city
of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God:
and I will write upon him my new name.

And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt
be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. (Isaiah 62:2)

-Jerusalem, the future headquarters city of the Earth (Haggai 2:6-8)
-Land Beneath Sea Reclaimed, converted to Jerusalem(Isaiah 60:5, 11:15).
World’s gold and silver reserves under the seas for beautiful decorations there.
-Gods latter house shall be greater than of the former (Haggai 2:9)
-Jerusalem is uniquely describes as being “compact together,” tall 122:3

-Desolate land shall be tilled - will be like the garden of Eden (Ezekiel 36:34-35)
-Build the waste cities-fresh produce-drink there own wine-farming (Amos 9:14)
-Waste cities “filled with flocks of men” being very social(Ezekiel 36:36-37-38)
-Superhighways between major cities (Isaiah 19:23)

-Cities being crime-free , dwell safely-none be made afried (Ezekiel 34:28-Micah 4:4)
-No more Violence, nor wasting, nor destruction (Isaiah 60:18)
-Cities overflow with prosperity (Zechariah 1:17) -Equitable property distribution
- every man shall own his vine and fig tree (Micah 4:4-Lev25) and

-“Joy and gladness-thanksgiving-the voice of melody(Isaiah 51:3)(Jeremiah 33:10-11)
-Where old men and old women dwell -full of boys and girls playing (Zechariah 8:4-5)
-No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up (Isaiah 35:9 )
-There will be Shepherds and local animal husbandry (Jer. 33:12)

-Pure Water—Fertile Deserts where trees grow (Isaiah 35)
-No more hunger-He will raise up a plant of renown (Ezekiel 34:29)
-A new sharp threshing instrument -the mountains made small(Isaiah 41:14-16)
-If any thrist and seek water, the God of Israel will not forsake them. (ver 17-18)

-Trees planted and growing-consider and understand that the [Eternal] hath
done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it” . (verse 19-20)

-All will speak the same language, a pure language from God (Zephaniah 3:9).
God will also destroy the idols, Ezekiel 30:13, Micah 5:10-15, Zechariah 13:2
Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst
of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands.

The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing. (Isaiah 14:7)
All the earth shall worship thee, and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing to thy name.
Psalms 66:4 -God has spoken it, and He is not one to go back on His word (Isaiah 55:11)
 

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There is no difference in the Kingdom of Heaven and Kingdom of God ive Heard this before, this should sort of help with those who arent clear, and help support those who already Knew this.


Luke 8:10 "And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand."



matthew 13 :10-11"the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given."

the same record different words from different men, the same message, the same event





Luke writes the Kingdom of God, matthew, the Kingdom of Heaven, both of the same event.....there is no difference in the Kingdom of God, and the Kingdom of Heaven, only which author wrote the Gospel whether they used the term Kingdom of Heaven, of Kingdom of God.


another example of this


mark 1:14-15 "Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, .And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."


Matthew 4 :12-17 "Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee; ,,,,,v 17From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

you see mark uses the term Kingdom of God, matthew uses Kingdom of Heaven, clearly it is the same event however and same teaching



one writes " the Kingdom of Heaven," the other "the Kingdom of God" there is no difference both are the Kingdom man was waiting for, the eternal Kingdom of Jesus Christ. there is only the One Gospel of the Kingdom of God.


Preached first by Jesus, then by His apostles, and we have also the miracles and works God has done and does in our lives still to witness also. (see Hebrews ch 1 : 1-5)


One final example



Luke 13 : Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God like? and whereunto shall I resemble it? 19It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it."


matthew 13:31-32 "parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof."




just that last example to clearly show that there is no difference between the Kingdom of Heaven, and Kingdom of God. the same teachings, different words.....I hope this is helpful to someone God bless !
To me, anyways, it seems like a "time of executing", or, bringing "a thing, event, or series of events" online, or, fruition, here on earth, during this current earth/heaven age, or, "Everlasting."

Many believers, have been taught that, WHEN Jesus Christ returns, the "peroid of time", Christ will reign as Lord of Lords, and King of Kings, is called "the Millennia", or a thousand years, which is an "everlasting" of itself. Whether it's an actual thousand laps around the sun, or a much longer period, as a day, of God's, is as a thousand years, on earth. Irregardless, it's a long, or longer "TIME." As men regard, and calculate this thing called time.
And, so it is with a believer. The Kingdom of God, sets into motion, the Kingdom of Heaven within a believer. "My Father's House...Many Mansions" (meno, in the Greek. areas, as well as levels OF "abiding/s").
 

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The phrase 'Kingdom of heaven' occurs only in the Gospel of Matthew.

In Mt 3:2, 4:17, 5:3, 5:10, 5:19, 5:20, 5:21, 7:21, and 8:11 it seems to signify any place where God's sovereign rule is acknowledged and welcomed including the hearts of believers.

In the parables, it seems to signify the distinction between God's values and outlook, and worldly values and outlook.



The phrase 'Kingdom of God' occurs in all four gospels, Acts, and some of the writings of Paul. It seems to signify God's rule in the hearts of believers.
 
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Thy kingdom come[future]. Thy will be done [on] earth, as it is[currently done] in heaven.

Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. 49So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, 50And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."


like a net already cast the Kingdom is being filled

matthew 13 :
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.

Like a seed the Kingdom was planted by the Lord in jerusalem and grows untill it covers the earth through the apostles until the end. past, present, future.
 
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Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

KOG and KOH are two different things. Simply put, God and heaven are two different terms in the bible with two different meanings.

KOH is a literal place, pointing to the literal kingdom of Israel on earth as God promised.

KOG is the spiritual kingdom in which the believer dwells. It's within us.
Luke 13 : Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God like? and whereunto shall I resemble it? 19It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it."


matthew 13:31-32 "parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof."

the difference is matthews term, Koh, and Lukes term Kingom of God. often they call it " the Kingdom" " the Kingdom of Gods beloved son" there is only the One gospel is the thing, there is only the One Kingdom. its also called the " Kingdom of Christ and of God" its not that they are talking about two different things, clearly Jesus is speaking the same things, and matthew is writing a different term than Luke. its rather evident i thought. its all about this one Kingdom prophecied

daniel 7 "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.14And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.


this is what the Bible is all about the Kingdom of Our Lord Jesus Christ and sharing in the inheritance therof, kindom of Heaven, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Our blessed savior, Kingdom of Christ....its all the same thing they arent teaching different kingdoms, thier individualism is showing through, Luke chose to write Kingdom of God, matthew wrote Kingdom of Heaven......the Gospel of the Kingdom"
 
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The phrase 'Kingdom of heaven' occurs only in the Gospel of Matthew.

In Mt 3:2, 4:17, 5:3, 5:10, 5:19, 5:20, 5:21, 7:21, and 8:11 it seems to signify any place where God's sovereign rule is acknowledged and welcomed including the hearts of believers.

In the parables, it seems to signify the distinction between God's values and outlook, and worldly values and outlook.



The phrase 'Kingdom of God' occurs in all four gospels, Acts, and some of the writings of Paul. It seems to signify God's rule in the hearts of believers.
its just matthews wording, he is recording the same sermons and teachings the other calls Kingdom of God. the only difference is the term used to express the knowledge . its a reference to the Kingdom promised to davids seed, ( Christ) the eternal Kingdom that will never fall its throughout prophecy

psalm 89 ":For I have said, Mercy shall be built up for ever: thy faithfulness shalt thou establish in the very heavens.3I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant,4Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah.5And the heavens shall praise thy wonders, O LORD: thy faithfulness also in the congregation of the saints.


you can find many more references but then later you see

daniel 7 "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.14And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."

and then in the epistles you see
romans 1 :
Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]...v[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]3[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; [/FONT]4[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And declared [/FONT]to bethe Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:5By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: 6Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:"


Jesus is made Lord of Both Heaven and earth the One and Only pontiate the One ruler over Gods Kingdom that is from Heaven to earth he is Lord of aLL.




 
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To me, anyways, it seems like a "time of executing", or, bringing "a thing, event, or series of events" online, or, fruition, here on earth, during this current earth/heaven age, or, "Everlasting."

Many believers, have been taught that, WHEN Jesus Christ returns, the "peroid of time", Christ will reign as Lord of Lords, and King of Kings, is called "the Millennia", or a thousand years, which is an "everlasting" of itself. Whether it's an actual thousand laps around the sun, or a much longer period, as a day, of God's, is as a thousand years, on earth. Irregardless, it's a long, or longer "TIME." As men regard, and calculate this thing called time.
And, so it is with a believer. The Kingdom of God, sets into motion, the Kingdom of Heaven within a believer. "My Father's House...Many Mansions" (meno, in the Greek. areas, as well as levels OF "abiding/s").

Jesus is already the Lord exalted over heaven and earth, having all authority.


the Kingdom is Like a seed planted he planted it in his disciples, then they went and planted it in the world. it does take a time of unfolding, or growth, it has to root. its been growing since Jesus planted it and someday will come the harvest time. its an ongoing thing, its here, but we have to take it by faith, until it manifests. spiritual things are currently happening in the world because the Kingdom arrived with the King.
 
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In Matthew 5, the Kingdom of Heaven is spoken about and it says that if one sinned against God that he would go to hell. While Paul taught that the Kingdom of God is where the Christian lived(Romans 14:17). If the two are same then there is a contradiction that the Christian's salvation includes works.

Matthew 25:14-30 talks about the Kingdom of Heaven where an unfaithful servant goes to hell. Luke 19:12-27 talks about the Kingdom of God where the unfaithful servant loses his rewards and this matches up with the Christian at the Judgment Seat of Christ(2 Cor. 5:10). There is obviously a difference between the two kingdoms.
Matthew 25:14-30 talks about the Kingdom of Heaven where an unfaithful servant goes to hell. Luke 19:12-27 talks about the Kingdom of God where the unfaithful servant loses his rewards and this matches up with the Christian at the Judgment Seat of Christ(2 Cor. 5:10). There is obviously a difference between the two kingdoms."

EPHESIANS 5 "But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
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Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7Be not ye therefore partakers with them."


romans 2 :
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6Who will render to every man according to his deeds:7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

10But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11For there is no respect of persons with God.


.........v16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

again theres just the One judgement also.....kind of the reason this op is written, when a person begons getting off course, the truth becomes hazy and less visable, there sjust the oone Kingdom its the only one written about all along One Lord, One faith, OPne baptism, One Lord over all. One Kingdom under God.



 

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There is no difference in the Kingdom of Heaven and Kingdom of God ive Heard this before, this should sort of help with those who arent clear, and help support those who already Knew this.


Luke 8:10 "And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand."



matthew 13 :10-11"the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given."

the same record different words from different men, the same message, the same event





Luke writes the Kingdom of God, matthew, the Kingdom of Heaven, both of the same event.....there is no difference in the Kingdom of God, and the Kingdom of Heaven, only which author wrote the Gospel whether they used the term Kingdom of Heaven, of Kingdom of God.


another example of this


mark 1:14-15 "Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, .And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."


Matthew 4 :12-17 "Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee; ,,,,,v 17From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

you see mark uses the term Kingdom of God, matthew uses Kingdom of Heaven, clearly it is the same event however and same teaching



one writes " the Kingdom of Heaven," the other "the Kingdom of God" there is no difference both are the Kingdom man was waiting for, the eternal Kingdom of Jesus Christ. there is only the One Gospel of the Kingdom of God.


Preached first by Jesus, then by His apostles, and we have also the miracles and works God has done and does in our lives still to witness also. (see Hebrews ch 1 : 1-5)


One final example



Luke 13 : Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God like? and whereunto shall I resemble it? 19It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it."


matthew 13:31-32 "parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof."




just that last example to clearly show that there is no difference between the Kingdom of Heaven, and Kingdom of God. the same teachings, different words.....I hope this is helpful to someone God bless !


This is an fantastic point that you bring up here in that the kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven are the same and that they were given to understand it,hats off,hooray!,,,thank you...

Now that you know for sure that this is speaking of the same exact same thing and that it was given to them to "understand it"(no brainer right?),,,seeing that you can establish this as you have then,,,

In Acts 1;6-7,,,,do they see that kingdom (restored unto Israel) as the same one they "fully were given to understand",(as you proved) and does Jesus say that they were given to understand it? ,,,,lol you see things that differ are not the same are they?
 

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There is no difference in the Kingdom of Heaven and Kingdom of God ive Heard this before, this should sort of help with those who arent clear, and help support those who already Knew this.

Luke 8:10 "And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand."

matthew 13 :10-11"the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given."

the same record different words from different men, the same message, the same event
But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. Matt 13:16

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: John 18:36

So in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1

if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: John 18:36

Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Matt 6:10

but now is my kingdom not from hence. John 18:36

Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations. Ps 145:13
 
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This is an fantastic point that you bring up here in that the kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven are the same and that they were given to understand it,hats off,hooray!,,,thank you...

Now that you know for sure that this is speaking of the same exact same thing and that it was given to them to "understand it"(no brainer right?),,,seeing that you can establish this as you have then,,,

In Acts 1;6-7,,,,do they see that kingdom (restored unto Israel) as the same one they "fully were given to understand",(as you proved) and does Jesus say that they were given to understand it? ,,,,lol you see things that differ are not the same are they?
colossians 1 " For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;

10That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; 11Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness; 12Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
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Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins"

ephesians 1:That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

19And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:22And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,23Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all."

john 18: Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews? 34Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me? 35Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?

36Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 37Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice."

the Kingdom of God is spirit, God is spirit, when we receive the Holy spirit we become a part of the Kingdom of God Now and for eternity, when Jesus came He brought the Kingdom and salvation until the end of time.

ephesians 5 : But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
acts 1 : When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."


the new jerusalem will come down from God the Kingdom is Now in Heaven, yet we are included in Christ where He is Now, by Faith its why we have to repent and live right to become one with Jesus, means we are in Gods presence. because His spirit lives in and is with us, the Kingdom operates when He is on the throne of our Hearts, when He is Lord. eventually Heaven and earth will be destroyed, and new earth and Heavens will be manifest. the things that are eternal without tears and pain, sufering , hunger and God wipes away every sorrow and shame. the eternal Kingdom of God the new Heaven and New earth. the Kingdom began at Jesus annointing and will be fulfilled upon His return in Glory. its an ongping thing, the gospel of the Kingdom is spread into the earth, and the Kingdom harvests those who will believe until the end.







 
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But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. Matt 13:16

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: John 18:36

So in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1

if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: John 18:36

Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Matt 6:10

but now is my kingdom not from hence. John 18:36

Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations. Ps 145:13
yep no argument, it doesnt change that there is One Kingdom.

matthew 28 " And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."


all power in Heaven and earth, ubtil the end of the World.....

revelation 5 " And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
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And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."


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And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. .


daniel 7 " A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.....v10 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."