Something I never considered about Adam

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I can't imagine God making a dumb human, or anything dumb for that matter. As we research insects and animals we find they are exceedingly intelligent in their own manner.

My personal belief is that God made man fully complete, language and knowledge.
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BenFTW

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Sure......I have always pointed out that most miss or sweep under the table that the tree also contained the knowledge of good as well as evil....and even compared it to a dog which knows neither naturally....very deep thought for sure......
Lol, more and more interesting concepts are unfolding. Have we even considered that God stored information in biotic matter? In a tree, particularly a fruit, held the knowledge of good and evil. Through its consumption knowledge was attained. This is like next level data storage.
 
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What I wonder is if the people of those early days so slow that they never thought to ask any of the questions that a thinking person of today would routinely ask? I mean, we are taught just to shut up and accept what we are told about those Biblical things, but it seems to me that they would have had to have a new question at each and every turn of the scroll.
 
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Lol, more and more interesting concepts are unfolding. Have we even considered that God stored information in biotic matter? In a tree, particularly a fruit, held the knowledge of good and evil. Through its consumption knowledge was attained. This is like next level data storage.
Yeah.....I have considered that....and personally I believe it was more the act than the fruit itself....Eve ate and did not know until Adam ate and then their eyes were opened......maybe a combo of both...
 

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Lol, more and more interesting concepts are unfolding. Have we even considered that God stored information in biotic matter? In a tree, particularly a fruit, held the knowledge of good and evil. Through its consumption knowledge was attained. This is like next level data storage.
Imagine a world where knowledge could be imparted through consumption. Think of someone like Bruce Lee divulging his techniques and that information being put into a fruit (or pill), for example, for people to consume and then be masters at that craft.

That would make expertise important in being the person who excels at the task, and then the information they put into the source (such as a fruit or pill) would be attainable for all. Anyone's advancement would help everyone then, eventually.

The expert would probably get royalties (haha), for each so called download.
 

NayborBear

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This line of thought made me think of something else, as well. The Trinity, having all knowledge, and being omniscient, in their conversations with one another (assuming), do their discussions come from a place of fascination? Do they look at a jellyfish and discuss it, for example, or any of their creation?

Two people can be experts in a field of study and they could discuss it with one another all day because they have a love for it. In like manner, I wonder if the Lord, Heavenly Father discusses with Jesus and Holy Spirit? Though... scripture says that the Holy Spirit knows the mind of God, which is why the question is somewhat perplexing, haha.
WoW Ben! Great topic buddy!

Well? I can't speak concerning your jellyfish example, unless it is being used in an ensample, in the cussing and discussing of a particular believer. And then, it wouldn't be so much of a fascinating talk, but more about "How do we fix this?" "Can it be fixed, without killing the "patient?" These conversations, and more, are what harvesting Angels, "banter about", in communicato's to the Lord of the Harvest. And, yeah? they can be audible, in one's own head, and can be at at such a "speed" of dialouge, as to be missed entirely. Which, at times, gives cause for "the patient", to react...sometimes, in what is called these days, an involuntary "twitch" of a muscle, a "spasm" in the neck, a "shudder", a "yawn", "rumblings, or rollings" in the tummy, or other areas of the patient's body. And, although, these "convo's" are oft times misdiagnosed, by other "patients", as the Holy Spirit "moving" within someone? Is actually the Lord of the Harvest! Which is YAH, of GOD, the Father, as well as El Shaddai! The what they are doing? Is performing "spiritual surgery." This would be like a car mechanic doing a total OVERHAULING, of your car's engine, while it is still running, and you're still driving it! Tricky work, to be sure! How successful the Lord of the Harvest, and El Shaddai are, is like the question: "how many psychiatrists are needed, to change a light bulb?" ONLY ONE!....But, the "lightbulb?" HAS to be WILLING!" :p
Of course, I am just assuming, this is what it might be like. Individual "stories", are like ladies perfume. some "smell" pretty good. And some? STINK! :rolleyes: (no offense ladies...merely used as an analogy) :p
 
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Yeah.....I have considered that....and personally I believe it was more the act than the fruit itself....Eve ate and did not know until Adam ate and then their eyes were opened......maybe a combo of both...
I would think in the twinkling of the eye. They were considered one creation.

There are two kinds of fruit .One doing the will of God. The other the will of natural man apart from God.

I would think because as new creatures we are given a new spirit that will never die, we are also given a new heart that desires to do the will of God . Like love and marriage or a horse and carriage can’t have one without the other.

It was the kind of food that they disciples knew not of (doing the will of one not seen) . The kind of food found in any tree except for the tree in the middle of the garden. (Not doing the will of Him not seen ) the fruit of rebellion.

Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
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They ate the food of the father of lies will.

God did not want man to learn from experiences doing the will of another seen. Their souls died in the twinkling of the eye they remain with a corrupted spirit and heart .And the work of living became in respect to their own hands not the hand or will of God.

And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Gen 3:17

What kind of food can we expect when we receive our new bodies in the new heavens and earth .This is seeing the old things will not be remembered or ever come to mind. ?

Will we even need literal food to fill a literal belly .or is it a product of the fall, the corruption ? And we will esteem the words of his mouth more than our necessary food as our fast form doing our own will.

Would it be the kind of fast (the gospel) by which Christ did drive out demons that the disciples could not?

1Corinthians 6:13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
 

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Great question, Ben.

I have always been fascinated by the fact that God told Moses to recruit two very specific men to work on the temple, Bezeleel and Oholiab, because God said He had filled them with "the Spirit of God in wisdom, in knowledge, in understanding, and in all kinds of craftsmanship." (Exodus 31:1-6.)

I have always wondered, when people are uncannily talented in a specific area, what is that like and how does God do it? Are they automatically born with a specific "program" that just naturally understands that particular field, or do they have something that enhances their abilities to absorb and utilize information in those areas? Since God seems to like variety, I would imagine that it's different for different people. In other words, is it there all along, or do they have to learn it like everyone else, but their learning skills in some areas are just amplified?

It's also interesting to me how God seems to give people different pieces of the puzzle and then joins them together--I know many people who seem to be wonderful at obtaining and retaining information, but for some reason, they can't seem to communicate it effectively to other people, so unless they are paired with a good "translator", their knowledge seems to stay locked within themselves.

I have also always wondered, when Solomon asked for wisdom, what was it like? What would his IQ score have been "before" and "after" God granted his request? Would it have been like The Matrix, in which multiple files of information about every subject was downloaded instantaneously, or was it that when Solomon was faced with a dilemma (such as the two women arguing over a baby), would the Holy Spirit just sit on his shoulder and whisper the answers, or stretch his understanding wide enough to be able to envision a solution?

These are definitely on my list of questions to ask... "Someday."
 
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God created Adam and eventually Adam started naming animals, but what gets me is, how did he have the ability to name them? What I mean is, God had to have created Adam fully developed, not only in stature, but mentally as well. He, God, also had to give Adam an informational download, in some respect, of a fluent language and a knowledge base.

Could you imagine God like a USB drive installing information into someone? Its not like God taught Adam in a process much like we do, gradually. First letters and then words, followed by sentences. He just starts naming the animals.

Makes one think. What download, if you will, would God grant to someone today if prayerfully sought? Does God today give people downloads of information? I suppose when people have "Aha!" moments, or blueprints for inventions in the night, one can speculate it was the Lord. Just a thought.
I read that we only use a small percentage of the capability of our brain. I want to say 10 percent, but it's been too long for accuracy. I would think though, since our life span has shortened from what our ancestors enjoyed, that death has been a real bummer for our brain. Lol plus our bodies. Darn wrinkles!

Oh, and yes, I do believe we get "downloads" from heaven. Perhaps a reason we should be oiled on a regular basis? To keep our parts running smoothly? :)
 
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stonesoffire

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What I wonder is if the people of those early days so slow that they never thought to ask any of the questions that a thinking person of today would routinely ask? I mean, we are taught just to shut up and accept what we are told about those Biblical things, but it seems to me that they would have had to have a new question at each and every turn of the scroll.
The Rabbis have many writings. Thats what they do. Sit and think. :)
 
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I read that we only use a small percentage of the capability of our brain. I want to say 10 percent, but it's been too long for accuracy. I would think though, since our life span has shortened from what our ancestors enjoyed, that death has been a real bummer for our brain. Lol plus our bodies. Darn wrinkles!

Oh, and yes, I do believe we get "downloads" from heaven. Perhaps a reason we should be oiled on a regular basis? To keep our parts running smoothly? :)
Why would we only use ten percent of our brain,and if we did then the ninety percent would be of no significance.

But people of the occult would like to think what if they tapped in to that ninety percent what could they achieve,which they already believe people are still evolving,in which they believe it is possible to harness the power of nature in the future to make that happen.

And mind creates reality more real than the world of sense,and Astral Projection,and the Akashic Records,the book of life as they call it,can be equated to the universe's super computer system,which they the Akashic Records is the phrase used to describe the energetic ‘records’ of our soul,our energy,and our purpose here in this lifetime and all lifetimes we have ever experienced.The records document every thought,emotion,action and experience that has ever occurred.

So,when you look into your personal record,you are able to gain some very detailed information about who you are on a soul level and how the life lessons you chose for this lifetime affect the decisions you make and the experiences you have.

So do we really use ten percent of our brain,or do they think that because what if they could tap in to that ninety percent,oh how great man can be.

But they say that we use ten percent of our brain is a myth,and cannot be proven.

But people who believe in all the things of the occult,and extreme beliefs that lift up people that they can be great and greater,would like to believe we only use ten percent of our brains,so they can believe they can tap in to the ninety percent and be oh so great,as well as believe people are still evolving,and mind creates reality more real than the world of sense,and Astral Projection,and the Akashic Records,for they like to believe things that exalt people.

Not to belittle anybody that believes that for they do not know how it does not make sense,for if we did only use ten percent we do not need the other ninety percent to have a relationship with God,and mankind already did enough damage with the ten percent,so the ninety percent is not going to lead to good,for we do not need it to do good,and be right with God,so what is the purpose.

If we only use ten percent of our brain then that is the way it was meant to be,and we are not ever going to use the ninety percent,but God did not give us a leg,or an arm,and we only use ten percent it,so why would God give us such a huge brain but we only use ten percent of it.