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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    How did you come up with the 888?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pckts View Post
    Do these correspondences occur in Greek and Hebrew manuscripts as well? I don't mean the exact ones as KJV, but in general does it occur?

    re-posting from his other thread where for 50 or 60 pages he's already gone through all the stuff he is about to repeat in a new 50 or 60 page thread:







    consider A = {a1, a2, a3, ... } and B = {b1, b2, b3, ...}
    such that bi = oi(ai), i = 1..|A|,
    for bounded operators {o1, o2, o3, ...}

    suppose F is a continuous, bounded function F: B → C
    then i, F(bi) = F(oi(ai))
    therefore there exists a continuous, bounded function G: A → C, G = F
    ω,
    where
    ω is defined by {oi}, i



    ((if that makes sense))



    which is to say ((though the math is saying more)), if there's a definable algebraic relationship between elements of the scripture in its given languages that can be mapped to the natural numbers, then of course there is also a relationship between elements of the same scripture in any translation into any language that is made in a continuous way!

    some things you want to know is if G is
    bijective, if it's unique, and what measures are preserved under it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James37 View Post
    It is discussed in the video I recommended and based on a google search it seems to be common knowledge among people who understand Greek gematria.
    I'm not going to watch a video. You are laying claim to it like you understand it enough. Have the courtesy to show us how you came up with Jesus = 888. If you put it out there, as you have, then tell us plainly how you arrived at it.
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    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

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    i don't know why people who don't understand math think they can teach others about math. much like people who don't understand physics trying to teach it.

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    did you not like the 50 or 60 page thread you already have going in this same section of the forum with exactly the same purpose and included information anymore?
    I did not like the mocking and senseless posts. I am interested in having an honest discussion with people who have respect for each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pckts View Post
    OK, wonderful. How did these numbers get assigned to the Greek letters? I can see the 1-10 but it still isn't valid. But then that all jumps to double then triple digits arbitrarily.
    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

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    I did not like the mocking and senseless posts. I am interested in having an honest discussion with people who have respect for each other.

    then please address the math.

    you're not exactly going to get a different conversation just because you started the same one in a new thread, though you may get a couple people interested in a different thread title, and you'll have some people already sick of talking to you about it who won't show up in this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by posthuman View Post

    then please address the math.

    you're not exactly going to get a different conversation just because you started the same one in a new thread, though you may get a couple people interested in a different thread title, and you'll have some people already sick of talking to you about it who won't show up in this one.
    What he is doing is moving the goalposts, no?
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    What he is doing is moving the goalposts, no?

    just changing fields, but playing the same game against the same team, with the same strategy.

    identical, standard goalposts afaik
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    Quote Originally Posted by James37 View Post
    I did not like the mocking and senseless posts. I am interested in having an honest discussion with people who have respect for each other.

    the honest truth is that a lot of people here think what you're doing is a mockery of Bible study, and that it's senseless. for 50 or 60 pages they've been telling you that this is their honest opinion. it's the same people who read the same forum, and you started basically the same dialogue right in the same feed that they peruse.

    i don't see this pragmatically turning out much differently, is my honest reaction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    OK, wonderful. How did these numbers get assigned to the Greek letters? I can see the 1-10 but it still isn't valid. But then that all jumps to double then triple digits arbitrarily.
    I believe this same gematria was used to translate the Greek text of 666 into the number as we know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    OK, wonderful. How did these numbers get assigned to the Greek letters? I can see the 1-10 but it still isn't valid. But then that all jumps to double then triple digits arbitrarily.
    What # would be the combination of Peter, Paul & Mary?

    #Inquiringmindsneedtoknow
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    Quote Originally Posted by pckts View Post
    It is interesting that the Greek isn't important to the KJVO'ers until they want it to be important. Otherwise it is dismissed, and those who employ it are counted as those who "corrupt" the Word. That's a fact. Just look at the double-standard. Anything goes for the KJVO'er, but if you're not of them, they have a multitude of rules for others.

    Let's apply the same "logic" to the english alphabet:

    A-1
    B-2
    C-3
    D-4
    E-5
    F-6
    G-7
    H-8
    I-9
    J-10
    K-20
    L-30
    M-40
    N-50
    O-60
    P-70
    Q-80
    R-100
    S-200
    T-300
    U-400
    V-500
    W-600
    X-700
    Y-800
    Z-900

    J = 10
    E = 5
    S = 200
    U = 400
    S = 200

    JESUS = 815.

    That's the number we should use, not the Greek KJVOers, you know better.

    Let's stick to the "pure words" of English, and not practice hypocrisy and double-standards and use the Greek "conveniently" when those of us who do use Greek are belittled, while you all get license to do so.
    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James37 View Post
    I believe this same gematria was used to translate the Greek text of 666 into the number as we know it.
    I believe the Greek text literally says six hundred, sixty, and six. Gematria had absolutely nothing to do with honest translation. Not the same subject at all.

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    SovereignGrace, posthuman, and Willie-T are on my ignore list. I have no interest in anything that they have to say. I may add others but for now these three will suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James37 View Post
    I believe this same gematria was used to translate the Greek text of 666 into the number as we know it.
    What "(translation) of the Greek text of 666?" What are you even talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by posthuman View Post
    I believe the Greek text literally says six hundred, sixty, and six. Gematria had absolutely nothing to do with honest translation. Not the same subject at all.
    Exactly...
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    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James37 View Post
    SovereignGrace, posthuman, and Willie-T are on my ignore list. I have no interest in anything that they have to say. I may add others but for now these three will suffice.
    But you want them to have interest in what you have to say, correct? Since that is so, show them the same respect and courtesy you expect them to show you.
    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    What "(translation) of the Greek text of 666?" What are you even talking about?
    666 is composed of 3 Greek letters that add up to this value. You have already made it clear that this is of significance to you. Do you not have something better to do with your time?

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