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How many times is it taught that those who do not understand the New Covenant yet have the veil of Moses when they read his writings.
Without that veil, we have grace and we understand teh law without needing to rationalize how incapable we are.
Because this veil is removed from us we are able to accept the laws that remain that are not fulfilled by Jesus Christ's first advent.
As a matter of fact the teaching that He has fulfilled the law and the prophets refers to the prohesies of Him contaiined therein. If, when you read the laws of Moses you yet see 611, 6s13 to some, then you yet have that veil over your face.
Without that veil, we have grace and we understand teh law without needing to rationalize how incapable we are.
Because this veil is removed from us we are able to accept the laws that remain that are not fulfilled by Jesus Christ's first advent.
As a matter of fact the teaching that He has fulfilled the law and the prophets refers to the prohesies of Him contaiined therein. If, when you read the laws of Moses you yet see 611, 6s13 to some, then you yet have that veil over your face.
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Can someone show us what Laws Jesus did not fulfill in his first advent?
I agree, without the veil, we have grace to understand the law. Just not the way the lawyers want us to see it, We see that law not as a means to grow in christ, But what it was intended for. To lead people to christ. Why? It exposes our sin. And shows the sinner what must be done to achieve atonement.
I agree, without the veil, we have grace to understand the law. Just not the way the lawyers want us to see it, We see that law not as a means to grow in christ, But what it was intended for. To lead people to christ. Why? It exposes our sin. And shows the sinner what must be done to achieve atonement.
The Lord Jesus never said He came to fulfill SOME of the law.
That is a construct of legalists and judaizers so they can continue to work at their favorite parts and try to put others under the same yoke.
The Lord Jesus is a much better Way than any carnal following of any legalist or judaizers understanding of the law.
2 Corinthians 3:6-9
[FONT="]6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.[/FONT]
[FONT="]7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:[/FONT]
[FONT="]8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?[/FONT]
[FONT="]9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
Do you want to be Righteous or do you want to work at the ministration of death written on stones?
Galatians 3:2-3
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[FONT="]2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Those who work at the law are being foolish. Will you follow them in their error?[/FONT]
That is a construct of legalists and judaizers so they can continue to work at their favorite parts and try to put others under the same yoke.
The Lord Jesus is a much better Way than any carnal following of any legalist or judaizers understanding of the law.
2 Corinthians 3:6-9
[FONT="]6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.[/FONT]
[FONT="]7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:[/FONT]
[FONT="]8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?[/FONT]
[FONT="]9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
Do you want to be Righteous or do you want to work at the ministration of death written on stones?
Galatians 3:2-3
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[FONT="]2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Those who work at the law are being foolish. Will you follow them in their error?[/FONT]
It was still called the law of moses 
lol
So did you have an answer?
lolSo did you have an answer?
Ephraim and Yehuda(judah)
Ravenous not being the nature of a true wolf.
Only a depiction long missunderstood because of malinformation and Ill will.
As I've shared with others elsewhere before, a wolf's characteristics are a form of instruction. Likewise, where you find binyamin(benjamin) you will find both ephraim and manesseh.
So for a moment here what would a person possibly see or even hear if not facing the Truth that is the covenant.
Now what Has the Lord Spoke of through the prophets of past time. " Ephraim is His first born", And so binyamin being the son of right hand takes on meaning when coming closer to the Truth of the Kingdom.
And by no means would someone like me dare to hinder my neighbors from entering into His rest.
Even if i were the fiercest of wolves to ever set his eyes on the Kings of the east. Though there are some who would, that toil no gain.
2 peter 3
Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard not to be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing.
So as for rightly dividing the Scripture as a person who would divide by Evening Wisdom.
Due diligence will greatly please the heart of a generous giver, charity of gold praised 7 times a day.
Would you Raise your voice any other Way than to speak of such Beauty that sings of our Savior.
Fruits of the Spirit
2 peter 3
Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard not to be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing.
Galatians 5:22-23Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is
}love,
}joy,
}peace,
}patience,
}kindness,
}goodness,
}faithfulness,
}humility,
}self control.
Nothing in the Torah stands against such things.
Blessings always
2 peter 3
Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard not to be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing.
Galatians 5:22-23Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is
}love,
}joy,
}peace,
}patience,
}kindness,
}goodness,
}faithfulness,
}humility,
}self control.
Nothing in the Torah stands against such things.
Blessings always
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The first converts to the Gospel of Jesus Christ had only the Tanakh. The Tanakh is coprised of the five Books attributed to Moses, the Prophets and the Writings.
Once a person's heart is converted to faith in Jesus Christ the veil is removed, and when reading the Tanakh one understands
that Jesus Christ has fulfilled the law and the prophets, that is that whic speaks of Him.
Knowing our blessed Savior's victory over all that could possibly harm us, for us, we now are given the
wisdom and understanding to read all of the Books of the Tanakh and see Salvations, mercy and grace, even in the laws, for we know which laws or no longer because of the Gospel, because of mercy, faith and justice. This is taught by Jesus Christ, but apparantly the majority have deaf ears.
We who believe Him do indeed live in grace but this does not exclude our obeying the Father.
As for the Ten Commandments, if we honor our God we will do as He has given us to do. Of course
this includes the two great laws of Love; God is Love.
God bless all who are in Jesus Christ and who hear Him, amen.
Once a person's heart is converted to faith in Jesus Christ the veil is removed, and when reading the Tanakh one understands
that Jesus Christ has fulfilled the law and the prophets, that is that whic speaks of Him.
Knowing our blessed Savior's victory over all that could possibly harm us, for us, we now are given the
wisdom and understanding to read all of the Books of the Tanakh and see Salvations, mercy and grace, even in the laws, for we know which laws or no longer because of the Gospel, because of mercy, faith and justice. This is taught by Jesus Christ, but apparantly the majority have deaf ears.
We who believe Him do indeed live in grace but this does not exclude our obeying the Father.
As for the Ten Commandments, if we honor our God we will do as He has given us to do. Of course
this includes the two great laws of Love; God is Love.
God bless all who are in Jesus Christ and who hear Him, amen.
Of course,
one to plant another to water and Increase is the Lords to give in secret to those who have followed instruction to building a house
If you would like i could speak of the 4th yr as a Holy Praise to those who have a tree for the birds to nest.
And further provisions for those who are ready to go out in pairs.
one to plant another to water and Increase is the Lords to give in secret to those who have followed instruction to building a house
If you would like i could speak of the 4th yr as a Holy Praise to those who have a tree for the birds to nest.
And further provisions for those who are ready to go out in pairs.
Brother JaumeJ,
You have it backwards, the 2 love laws contain the big 10.
The 10, are not the center of the law, the 10 hang on the 2.
They are a school teacher to bring us to Jesus, a prophecy fulfilled, completed, contract completed, it is finished, it is finished, it is finished, ended.
You don't have to hear the Law to be a Christian, you only need to hear the gospel preached, Jesus died for our sins.
The 2 laws are written in our hearts, the 10 "hang" on those 2.
Alone they are only 10 pieces in a puzzle of many.
God bless you and keep you always.[/QUOTE]
"The written code kills," you have got that right.
The Holy Spirit guiding doesn't need the 10 at all.
A person who becomes a Christian, and NEVER hears the Law, will be love without hearing it.
They will be doing the loving thing by the Spirit without ever having heard the Law.
They will be in the Spirit, without the Law.
If they love, they will not sin, they will be the 2 love laws, without ever hearing them.
Forget the 10, be the 2.
You have it backwards, the 2 love laws contain the big 10.
The 10, are not the center of the law, the 10 hang on the 2.
They are a school teacher to bring us to Jesus, a prophecy fulfilled, completed, contract completed, it is finished, it is finished, it is finished, ended.
You don't have to hear the Law to be a Christian, you only need to hear the gospel preached, Jesus died for our sins.
The 2 laws are written in our hearts, the 10 "hang" on those 2.
Alone they are only 10 pieces in a puzzle of many.
God bless you and keep you always.[/QUOTE]
"The written code kills," you have got that right.
The Holy Spirit guiding doesn't need the 10 at all.
A person who becomes a Christian, and NEVER hears the Law, will be love without hearing it.
They will be doing the loving thing by the Spirit without ever having heard the Law.
They will be in the Spirit, without the Law.
If they love, they will not sin, they will be the 2 love laws, without ever hearing them.
Forget the 10, be the 2.
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God will write his WHOLE law in our heart. Not just ten commands. Writing the ten makes no sense.
The ten were written in stone,. He does not have to right them in our heart. He has to write his WHOLE law in our heart for us to obey him
We can obey the ten to the letter. It does not make us righteous people. That was jesus point., when he said in the two CONTAIN the ten.
Yes, without the Holy Spirit all scripture is liable to kill before saving for understanding is not imparted without the Holy Spirit.
I know this by experience, for I had attempted to read teh Word all of my life before the Holy Spirit entered into me. Since that moment it makes sense and I understand what is most important for salvation.
Because the Commandments of god are taken by Him personally from the stone and inscribed on my heart, I am able to discern the law bye the principles taught by Jesus Christ. Faith, mercy and justice.
Now this is importan, almost all of the laws given to Moses have been fulfilled by Christ's advent and fulfillment of His mission
Becaue of Christ I know that no law without mercy stands, andd I know that all laws that point to good, moral conduct do stand.. Yes they all fall under the laws of love written down by Moses long after the Stone Tablets were inscribed by our FAther, but if you truly study these Ten you will find the laws of love are there. Your heart, your new heart will witness to this.
Thanks and God bless you also.
I know this by experience, for I had attempted to read teh Word all of my life before the Holy Spirit entered into me. Since that moment it makes sense and I understand what is most important for salvation.
Because the Commandments of god are taken by Him personally from the stone and inscribed on my heart, I am able to discern the law bye the principles taught by Jesus Christ. Faith, mercy and justice.
Now this is importan, almost all of the laws given to Moses have been fulfilled by Christ's advent and fulfillment of His mission
Becaue of Christ I know that no law without mercy stands, andd I know that all laws that point to good, moral conduct do stand.. Yes they all fall under the laws of love written down by Moses long after the Stone Tablets were inscribed by our FAther, but if you truly study these Ten you will find the laws of love are there. Your heart, your new heart will witness to this.
Thanks and God bless you also.