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It is a nice verse. I like the word expect rather than hope.
Do you have a Strong's Concordance? The lexicon in it has it define like this.

G1679 ἐλπίζω elpizo (el-pid'-zo) v.
1. to expect or confide

When I seen that in the Strong's years ago; from that point on when I seen the word hope in my KJV Bible I understood it to mean expect. Changed my perspective a lot.

Anyway; As you know Faith is a noun. A state of being. The BDAG lexicon has it defined like this, "state of believing on the basis of the reliability of the one trusted".

With that being understood and what you shared. There is other verses that give even more insight on what faith is. Please bear with me.

Rom. 10:1-4 says, Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
(Rom 10:1-4 KJV)

So Israel had not submitted themselves to the righteousness which is of GOD. Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; (Which is Faith) As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone (Which is Christ; Faith) and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
(Rom 9:32-33 KJV)

Rom 10:4 says, "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

Christ is also a noun; which is a state of being. But in this instance Christ is Jesus. But interestingly enough Jesus is not a normal Being. He among other things is the Rock of offense, Stone of stumbling; the Faith prophesied by Isaiah 8:14 and 28:16. If one is paying attention Paul is also calling Jesus YEHOVAH. Because YEHOVAH is the subject of Isaiah 8:14.

Anyway Romans 10:4 says, "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

If we keep reading and keep everything in Context we see that Christ, JEHOVAH, the Stone of Stumbling, the Faith is given to us.

But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Yehovah; Faith; the Word) down from above) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Yehovah; Faith, the Word) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The Word (Yehovah; Christ, Faith) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the Word of faith, which we preach;
(Rom 10:6-8 KJV)

So if we keep everything in Isaiah and Romans in Context.
We see that Christ, Yehovah, Faith; the Word is here in our hearts and in our mouths. And this Faith; Is The word (utterance; something spoken) of faith in which we preach. In other words Paul is saying, This is what we means when we say faith.

Pretty cool huh?

But wait; that is not everything. Romans 10:4-6 as you probably know is also a quote from the Old Testament. This time Paul is quoting Deut 30:11-14.

We will start in verse 10 to keep everything in context.The Spirit saith,
If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

For this commandment which I command thee this day,

What commandment? The one HE just spoke.

If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.


This is that which
is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?" But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

So the Commandment, hearkening unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, turning unto the LORD thy God with all our heart, and with all our soul is the word that is nigh us; in our hearts and in our mouths that we do it. That is the Faith in which we speak.

This is being spoken in the present tense. Which means if we are looking at Isaiah, Deut., and Romans keeping everything in context, this FAITH, this voice of the LORD YEHOVAH GOD; CHRIST; THE WORD;
HIS COMMANDMENTS AND HIS STATUTES WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW are in our hearts and in our mouths (TRUE FAITH) that we do it; was available then, even as it is now!

(Deu 30:10-15 KJV)

Like you said BillG
In a sense also I see faith as a state of being in that leads to doing.
So like in Christ we do all things.
AMEN brother Bill! It is who we are not what we do. We went from obeying to being as the Body of Christ; the Temple of GOD! For it is he that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. As Deut 30:6 He circumcises our hearts. With man this impossible! But with GOD all things are possible! Lo HE is with us even unto the end!
 

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It is a nice verse. I like the word expect rather than hope.
Do you have a Strong's Concordance? The lexicon in it has it define like this.

G1679 ἐλπίζω elpizo (el-pid'-zo) v.
1. to expect or confide

When I seen that in the Strong's years ago; from that point on when I seen the word hope in my KJV Bible I understood it to mean expect. Changed my perspective a lot.

Anyway; As you know Faith is a noun. A state of being. The BDAG lexicon has it defined like this, "state of believing on the basis of the reliability of the one trusted".

With that being understood and what you shared. There is other verses that give even more insight on what faith is. Please bear with me.

Rom. 10:1-4 says, Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
(Rom 10:1-4 KJV)

So Israel had not submitted themselves to the righteousness which is of GOD. Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; (Which is Faith) As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone (Which is Christ; Faith) and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
(Rom 9:32-33 KJV)

Rom 10:4 says, "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

Christ is also a noun; which is a state of being. But in this instance Christ is Jesus. But interestingly enough Jesus is not a normal Being. He among other things is the Rock of offense, Stone of stumbling; the Faith prophesied by Isaiah 8:14 and 28:16. If one is paying attention Paul is also calling Jesus YEHOVAH. Because YEHOVAH is the subject of Isaiah 8:14.

Anyway Romans 10:4 says, "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

If we keep reading and keep everything in Context we see that Christ, JEHOVAH, the Stone of Stumbling, the Faith is given to us.

But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Yehovah; Faith; the Word) down from above) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Yehovah; Faith, the Word) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The Word (Yehovah; Christ, Faith) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the Word of faith, which we preach;
(Rom 10:6-8 KJV)

So if we keep everything in Isaiah and Romans in Context.
We see that Christ, Yehovah, Faith; the Word is here in our hearts and in our mouths. And this Faith; Is The word (utterance; something spoken) of faith in which we preach. In other words Paul is saying, This is what we means when we say faith.

Pretty cool huh?

But wait; that is not everything. Romans 10:4-6 as you probably know is also a quote from the Old Testament. This time Paul is quoting Deut 30:11-14.

We will start in verse 10 to keep everything in context.The Spirit saith,
If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

For this commandment which I command thee this day,

What commandment? The one HE just spoke.

If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.


This is that which
is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?" But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

So the Commandment, hearkening unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, turning unto the LORD thy God with all our heart, and with all our soul is the word that is nigh us; in our hearts and in our mouths that we do it. That is the Faith in which we speak.

This is being spoken in the present tense. Which means if we are looking at Isaiah, Deut., and Romans keeping everything in context, this FAITH, this voice of the LORD YEHOVAH GOD; CHRIST; THE WORD;
HIS COMMANDMENTS AND HIS STATUTES WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW are in our hearts and in our mouths (TRUE FAITH) that we do it; was available then, even as it is now!

(Deu 30:10-15 KJV)



Good post and great verses.
What do you mean by commandments and statutes?
My simple mind computes the 2 commandments he gave, about love but also loving my enemies.
I have read the Levitical laws. If memory serves me there is a lot in there that explains how we walk in the 10 commandments.
How to love and show it.

I am a simple man whilst l whose Herrera l hearts desire is to be holy just as Jesus is.
The very thing I have been set apart for.

Bill
 

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I have nothing against you, just the opposite actually.

I have left no stone unturned when speaking with you. I have left nothing on the table in the hopes that you might see what Jesus warned about so many times. I have always known you would either look into the points of my post and consider, or reject them outright.

You said "Faith is not obedience"

I replied that people who create images of God in the likeness of man, who create their own High Days, do not have obedience, therefore, how can they be any different that those Jesus warned us about in Matt. 23?

Those "believers" claimed to have Faith, just as you and I do. Yet, they "Transgressed the Commandments of God by their own traditions." and it was for their " practicing Lawless works" that Jesus rejected them, and their "Fruits" Jesus said we would know them by, that is how we know they had no faith. They had "works" just not obedient works.

I believe you don't think obedience is important because in my eyes, you have said many times in many different ways that "Faith is not obedience".

You say in another breath that obedience is the result of true faith. Yet refuse to even discuss all the mainstream traditions of todays churches which openly "Transgress the Commandments of God be their man made traditions", all the while claiming, as did the "MANY" Jesus spoke of in Matt. 23., to have Faith in Jesus.

You can get all indignant and put your words on me if you want, it is a popular tactic for many. But I responded honestly and sincerely to a comment you chose to make on a thread I started.

I have nothing against you personally, just the opposite, but I refuse to ignore the elephant in the Room where mainstream traditions and doctrines Jesus warned over and over about are concerned.

I'm sorry you are so pissed at me, but my words and comments were made in true Love of the Brethren.
Studyman,
I got angry with you last night and I reacted in a way I. Should not have done.

For this I apologise, please accept my apology and I hope you will forgive me.

Bill.
 

Studyman

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There is a difference between "weak in faith" and "weak in THE FAITH". "The faith" is the entire body of Christian doctrine, and some Christians are weak in this either because they haven't studied the Scriptures or they have not believed what is written. During Paul's time there were many converted Jews who were still trying to cling to the Law of Moses because they had not fully grasped Christian truth and the meaning of the New Covenant. So they had problems regarding matters such as dietary laws, circumcision, etc. Today, there are other issues.
I understand what you are saying, it's just that the Jews were not "Trying to obey God's Laws" before Jesus came on the scene, they had created their own laws.

This teaching that the Jews who "Believed" were trying to obey God and that was their problem, has permeated Christianity today but it is just not true. The Jews had created their own religion, with their own Laws and their own Doctrines and traditions. Zacharias is an example of a "Faithful" Jew, not the Pharisees or "mainstream" religious leaders.

Paul's problems with the converted Jews was not the they were trying to be obedient to God, or reverting back to being obedient to God, but that they were reverting back to the Jews "LAW", that they created and had followed for centuries.

Yes, they called their law the "Law of Moses", but we know from study that the Jews didn't follow the Laws of Moses(God), and it was for this reason they were rejected.


Matt. 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

Acts. 21:20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:
21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

It makes a huge difference is the teachings of the Bible.

If it is inferred that Jesus rejected the Jews because they were trying to obey God, this feeds one narrative.

If it is inferred that Jesus rejected the Jews because they rejected God's Instructions and created their own, the narrative becomes almost the opposite.

Like Jesus said:

John 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?


For this reason it is my belief that Jesus "Specifically warned" about "Those who come in His Name", who preach that Jesus is truly the Son of God, but are here to deceive.

If the "Faith" that exists in "Christianity" is based on something other than the Word of God, then this "faith" is vain.

This is why Jesus inspired tests to "Examine our self".

2 Cor. 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

Jesus also gave a stark example of this very thing in:

Matt. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

I agree with you regarding the "meaning of the New Covenant". It is not understood to this day.

It dealt with the Priesthood, not with God's Commandments. It deals with how the Law is administered and how sins are forgiven. It has nothing to do with changing God's Commandments, only how they are given. and how disobedience to them is forgiven. This would be a good thread to start.
 
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Studyman,
I got angry with you last night and I reacted in a way I. Should not have done.

For this I apologise, please accept my apology and I hope you will forgive me.

Bill.
Only if you will accept mine. I am sorry for my accusatory tone.

Contention and debate and discussion about God's Word is as old as Cain and Abel and are good for men to have. It is not the debate that is bad, but the manner in which we debate. I have a lot to learn in regards to this issue.

Thank you for your kindness and please forgive me as well. :)
 

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Only if you will accept mine. I am sorry for my accusatory tone.

Contention and debate and discussion about God's Word is as old as Cain and Abel and are good for men to have. It is not the debate that is bad, but the manner in which we debate. I have a lot to learn in regards to this issue.

Thank you for your kindness and please forgive me as well. :)
Thank you.
Peace brother.
Hope you have a great day and may God truly bless you.
Bill.
 

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Your belief is you have to fulfill the law just as Christ did in order to be saved. You believe the law is what saves, therefore believing the law saved OT saints, and that the "good news" today is to keep the law for salvation.
You read something into what I posted that is totally incorrect,

Jesus said the law is in place until the end of heaven and earth or until ALL is accomplished.

Matthew 5:17 to 20 NIV

The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.


Sin is the transgression of the law. Paul said without the law we wouldn't know what sin was. The Torah contains the 613 different commands that make up the law. Therefore anyone with a Bible or Old Testament is without excuse. Also it is written that God implanted in men's minds the consciousness of right and wrong.. So even without the Bible people have no excuse.

With this all are condemned by the law. Accepting the sacrifice of Jesus is the only option to remove the penalty for breaking the law. This is the gospel (good news) message.
 
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You read something into what I posted that is totally incorrect,

Jesus said the law is in place until the end of heaven and earth or until ALL is accomplished.

Matthew 5:17 to 20 NIV

The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.


Sin is the transgression of the law. Paul said without the law we wouldn't know what sin was. The Torah contains the 613 different commands that make up the law. Therefore anyone with a Bible or Old Testament is without excuse. Also it is written that God implanted in men's minds the consciousness of right and wrong.. So even without the Bible people have no excuse.

With this all are condemned by the law. Accepting the sacrifice of Jesus is the only option to remove the penalty for breaking the law. This is the gospel (good news) message.
Are you sure that passage is not about the fulfillment of the prophecies about the MEssiah?

because:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 24:44-46, “And He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all have to be fulfilled that were written in the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me. Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and said to them, “Thus it has been written, and so it was necessary for the Messiah to suffer and to rise again from the dead the third day.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 45:21-22, “Declare and bring near, let them even take counsel together. Who has announced this from of old? Who has declared it from that time? Is it not I, [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]? And there is no mighty one besides Me, a righteous Power and Savior, there is none besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am Strength, and there is none else.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 46:10, “Declaring the end from the beginning, and from of old that which has not yet been done, saying, ‘My counsel does stand, and all My delight I do.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]There are 2 "it is done" statements...

Fulfilled already
John 19:30, “So when
[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]took the sour wine He said, “It is done!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.”

Fulfilled already- To be fulfilled in the future

1. Passover/First-fruits – Yahshua's Sacrifice(Passover), burial and resurrection (First Fruits – presenting Himself to YHWH)
2. Feast of Unleavened Bread – Removal of sin by Yahshua's perfect work as the Passover Sacrifice
3. Feast of Weeks – The blessing Holy Spirit of YHWH, coming into our lives stronger than ever

4. Feast of Trumpets – Yahshua's return and gathering of the Saints
5. Day of Atonement – Yahshua leads the army of YHWH to destroy evil rulers of this world and satan is chained for 1,000 years
6. Feast of Tabernacles – Yahshua dwells on earth for 1,000 years teaching truth and righteousness
7. The Last Great Day – satan is loosed and swiftly destroyed, the Kingdom of YHWH reigns forever


To be fulfilled in the future
Revelation 21:4-8, “And Yah shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying. And there shall be no more pain, for the former matters have passed away. And He who was sitting on the throne said, “See, I make all matters new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and trustworthy. And He said to me, “It is done! I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End. To the one who thirsts I shall give of the fountain of the water of life without payment. The one who overcomes shall inherit all this, and I shall be his Strength and he shall be My son. But as for the cowardly, and untrustworthy, and abominable, and murderers, and those who whore, and drug sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the false, their part is in the lake which burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.”
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 9:26-28, “For if so, He would have had to suffer often, since the foundation of the world. But now He has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the offering of Himself. 27, "And as it awaits men to die once, and after this the judgment, so also the Messiah, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to those waiting for Him, unto deliverance.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:29-31, “And immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give its light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Aḏam shall appear in the heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth shall mourn, and they shall see the Son of Aḏam coming on the clouds of the heaven with power and much esteem. And He shall send His messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 19:11-16, “And I saw the heaven opened, and there was a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Trustworthy and True, and in righteousness He judges and fights. And His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns, having a Name that had been written, which no one had perceived except Himself – and having been dressed in a robe dipped in blood (Isaiah 63:2) and His Name is called: The Word of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. And the armies in the heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations. And He shall shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of the Almighty Strength. And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written: SOVEREIGN OF SOVEREIGNS AND MASTER OF MASTERS.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 2:1-12, "2:1, "Why do the nations rage, And the peoples meditate emptiness? The sovereigns of the earth take their stand, And the rulers take counsel together, Against [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and against His Messiah, and say, Let us tear apart Their bonds, And throw away Their ropes from us.”"2:4, " He who is sitting in the heavens laughs, [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]mocks at them. Then He speaks to them in His wrath, And troubles them in His rage, saying,"2:6, "“ But I, I have set My Sovereign on Tsiyon, My set-apart mountain. I inscribe for a law: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]has said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have brought You forth. Ask of Me, and I make the nations Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth Your possession. Break them with a rod of iron, Dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel. And now, be wise, O sovereigns; Be instructed, you rulers of the earth. Serve [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]with fear, And rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son lest He be enraged, And you perish in the way, For soon His wrath is to be kindled. Blessed are all those taking refuge in Him.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniel 7:21-22, “I was looking, and this horn was fighting against the set-apart ones, and was prevailing against them, until the Ancient of Days came, and right-ruling was given to the set-apart ones of the Most High, and the time came and the set-apart ones took possession of the reign.”

Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."
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Romans 12:1-2

1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

This is only possible with His Word.

Shalom