Is Catholicism Christian? Are Catholics Saved?
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Probably so, I am not an expert on Catholicism. Many of catholic individuals I have met seem to be closer to God than many of the protestants based on some brief conversations. At least half of the Protestants I run into believe in works salvation or dinosaurs on the ark with Noah. I think we all have much to learn.
Other than the promised Holy Spirit, not seen in respect to those who know what walking by faith means??
I would offer the authority of God's word as it is written in the law and the prophets (sola scriptural) Its good new is the key that unlocks the gates of hell. It is the reforming authority in any generation.
Where do the Catholic who must walk by sight as if the kingdom of God came by observation and not the faith of God (not seen) as it is written since they serve another master (the oral tradition of men) .
Can men serve two Masters as infallible interpreters ?
What do Christians have do with the law of the Catholic fathers? Men following men seen, and not of Father in heaven not seen walking by faith.
How many Masters as infallible teachers can we follow?
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.Mat 23:8
Telling us the Hail Mary is not a prayer, and that Roman Catholics do not pray to Mary, is a lie. Informing you the truth of the matter is not hate... Sorry to burst your little bubble. Who knows how many other lies you have told here? It is not like I am keeping score, or anything 
However, it is a well known fact that Roman Catholic apologists come here and lie to us about what your institution teaches and promotes, its history, etc.
However, it is a well known fact that Roman Catholic apologists come here and lie to us about what your institution teaches and promotes, its history, etc.
When I first joined this site my thought of prayer was words directed to someone/something that is to be worshiped and for me (and Catholics) that is God and God alone. A request made for someone to pray for me whether Mary, the Saints, or a friend of mine I didn't consider to be prayer. The definition of prayer appears to be different for those on this site and I have tried repeatedly to explain myself and convey the Catholic teaching on prayer to Mary and the Saints. Here are a few of my posts related to prayer to Mary/Saints on this thread:
"I just wanted you to know that Catholics don't pray to Mary. Rather, Catholics ask for Mary's prayers just like you might ask your friends or loved ones to pray for you. Now I know you don't believe in that, but I just didn't want you thinking that Catholics actually pray to Mary like we pray to Jesus.
"I wrote about the 2 definitions of prayer in my response. One is in hope to receive prayers while the other is an act of worship. I guess I was more using the term "prayer" as an act of worship when I originally responded to you. Sorry about that.
"I wouldn't say that Catholics believe that Mary is a mediator between man and God, but rather that she played a critical role in the sense of wholeheartedly believing God (Luke 1:38). And thus deserves great honor, but not worship!
Bottom line is that no faithful Catholic who knows their faith would put Mary in even a remotely similar realm as Jesus. We worship our Lord while giving honor to Mary for her faithfulness and the supporting role she played in the birth of our Savior."
"As for Mary, any faithful Catholic would be offended by anyone worshiping Mary or anyone or anything other than God. Statues and icons are venerated (not worshiped) per the 8th church council in Constantinople in 869 A.D."
"To Mary and the saints we have an earnest hope for them to pray for us and to God alone do we prayer in worship"
"I ask my family and friends to pray for me all the time and I have family and friends (Catholics and non-Catholics) who ask that I pray for them. Catholics ask Mary and the saints to pray for them in the same way. You may not believe that is possible or the correct thing to do, but please don't mistaken it for worship as with the Lord's prayer as an example where we direct that prayer to God."
"As for the Hail Mary it is based on scripture (Luke 1:28) and then we ask Mary to pray for us."
"I believe that the Catholic Church believes in Mary and the saints being able to hear our requests, in part due to Rev 5:8 where the "prayers of the saints" are mentioned. The Catholic Church would interpret this passage as the saints listening to our requests and offering them up to God on our behalf.
"First of all, I don't venerate God, I worship God. Maybe to you they are the same thing but by definition to venerate (at least by Merriam-Webster) is to "regard with reverential respect or with great deference" or "to honor with a ritual act of devotion" versus worship to mean "honor or reverence as a divine being or supernatural power". I make that distinction because that is the difference between how we as Catholics view Jesus versus Mary as an example. One we worship and the other we venerate not as a divine being
I'm not sure what I need to do to be clearer. If you know of a way please let me know. Thanks.
-Ernie-
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If we flipped the question the post asks, they have already answered definitively.
The Roman Catholic Church at their Council of Trent declared that Protestantism is actually a heresy which means they don't think Protestantism is actually Christian and that none of it's adherents are saved.
The day is coming when a global concordat will be made declaring Catholicism the true form of Christianity. Any not claiming the Roman Church and the Papacy will be given the same treatment as non Catholic Christians received under the Nazis in Germany (it wasn't only Jews), where the Roman Church had a similar concordat. Enjoy the forums while you have the privilege.
Pray for Catholics to come to Jesus and to leave their apostacy.
That is all, God bless ye.
The Roman Catholic Church at their Council of Trent declared that Protestantism is actually a heresy which means they don't think Protestantism is actually Christian and that none of it's adherents are saved.
The day is coming when a global concordat will be made declaring Catholicism the true form of Christianity. Any not claiming the Roman Church and the Papacy will be given the same treatment as non Catholic Christians received under the Nazis in Germany (it wasn't only Jews), where the Roman Church had a similar concordat. Enjoy the forums while you have the privilege.
Pray for Catholics to come to Jesus and to leave their apostacy.
That is all, God bless ye.
It's nice that you believe "the bible," but which VERSION do you believe, or do you think they all say about the same thing in every verse?
1 John 5:7 For there are three that testify:
New International Version
For there are three that testify:
New Living Translation
So we have these three witnesses--
English Standard Version
For there are three that testify:
Berean Study Bible
For there are three that testify:
Berean Literal Bible
For there are three bearing testimony:
New American Standard Bible
For there are three that testify:
King James Bible
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
For there are three that testify:
International Standard Version
For there are three witnesses —
NET Bible
For there are three that testify,
New Heart English Bible
For there are three who testify:
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And The Spirit testifies because The Spirit is the truth.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
There are three witnesses:
New American Standard 1977
And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Jubilee Bible 2000
For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
King James 2000 Bible
For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one.
American King James Version
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
American Standard Version
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And there are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one.
Darby Bible Translation
For they that bear witness are three:
English Revised Version
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Webster's Bible Translation
For there are three that bear testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one.
Weymouth New Testament
For there are three that give testimony-- the Spirit, the water, and the blood;
World English Bible
For there are three who testify:
Young's Literal Translation
because three are who are testifying in the heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these -- the three -- are one;
I guess I'm just asking for it, but what about the Catholic Mass is pagan? Before you answer if I could ask you a question, would you consider Christianity itself to be of pagan origin if I were to give the following similarities between pagan and Christian practices:
- The pagan priestesses spoke in tongues just as the Apostles of Jesus did at Pentecost
- Mithra was in between 2 torchbeaers, one pointing up and the other down which symbolized heaven and hell similar to Jesus being crucified between 2 thieves
- In Attis a bull was slaughtered and the blood would flow over an initiate. The believer was then considered to be "born again". The practice was interpreted symbolically by Christians
And yes, there are Catholic practices like the Eucharist that could be said to have similar similarities to pagan practices. I think you would agree that even though Christianity might resemble pagan practices in some instances it has no bearing on the truth of Christianity.
-Ernie-
- The pagan priestesses spoke in tongues just as the Apostles of Jesus did at Pentecost
- Mithra was in between 2 torchbeaers, one pointing up and the other down which symbolized heaven and hell similar to Jesus being crucified between 2 thieves
- In Attis a bull was slaughtered and the blood would flow over an initiate. The believer was then considered to be "born again". The practice was interpreted symbolically by Christians
And yes, there are Catholic practices like the Eucharist that could be said to have similar similarities to pagan practices. I think you would agree that even though Christianity might resemble pagan practices in some instances it has no bearing on the truth of Christianity.
-Ernie-
I bolded the text because I just wanted to make sure you understood accurate Catholic teaching on that subject. Yes, Catholicism believes that Protestantism is a heretical sect, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily not saved. As long as Protestants have complete and total ignorance of the authority of the Catholic Church then they too can be saved assuming they do not have any unconfessed mortal sins.
Now most on this site will find what I said to be horribly wrong, but that is at least what the Catholic Church teaches as I understand it.
-Ernie-
Now most on this site will find what I said to be horribly wrong, but that is at least what the Catholic Church teaches as I understand it.
-Ernie-
it is obvious that you are a 'troll' whether disguising as a real catholic or not! -
you are obviously in a 'false, religious, hypnotic daze, where ever you are coming from...
God will trod all over the institution of molesters, for they sequester their victims in ritualistic guile...
the wh...'s confessionals and pedophiles shall be sent down the river of her non-existant purgatory
with the rest of her religious fables and false stories...
most will not be able to free themselves from the spells of their evil 'commander'...
this is a given!!!
you are obviously in a 'false, religious, hypnotic daze, where ever you are coming from...
God will trod all over the institution of molesters, for they sequester their victims in ritualistic guile...
the wh...'s confessionals and pedophiles shall be sent down the river of her non-existant purgatory
with the rest of her religious fables and false stories...
most will not be able to free themselves from the spells of their evil 'commander'...
this is a given!!!