Is Catholicism Christian? Are Catholics Saved?

[JaumeJ]

Well, my thinking and belief has always been there are believers in most denominations under the Salvation teaching of Jesus Christ. At the same time, bash, I believe no named denomination is totally true, ergo totally false are they all.
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This belief is from the Word plus attempting to picture Jesus Christ of Israel and the Faith of Abraham as a member of any of them.

The truth that there are believers in all walks is also witness to the prophecy of apostasy abounding.....i8t does.

What is Apostasy but teachings of man put into God's Mouth. The fact the doctrines do not cincide is more than sufficient for me, but anyone who confesses Jesus Christ, Yeshua, is family to me...no matter what denomination they thing is the right one.

 

[Willie-T]

The RCC is not another denomination. It considers itself the one and only true church, with Peter as its first pope. Also there is no other church which has been so thoroughly compromised by false doctrines and false practices. The bottom line is that when the salvation of souls is at stake, no church is exempt for a serious examination of what it teaches and how it places millions of souls in bondage. All non-Catholics are still considered heretics, and if we lived in the Middle Ages, we would all be subject to serious persecution by this so-called church.

I spent 12 years in a Denomination that truly did consider itself to be the only true Church of Christ.
So, I can't throw that first stone.

 

[notuptome]

How can there be balance when confronting doctrine that is clearly not sound doctrine? How much corruption is too much corruption?

Specifically what is the Roman catholic gospel? How does one obtain eternal life and forgiveness of sins in the Roman catholic church?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[tourist]

The RCC is not another denomination. It considers itself the one and only true church, with Peter as its first pope. Also there is no other church which has been so thoroughly compromised by false doctrines and false practices. The bottom line is that when the salvation of souls is at stake, no church is exempt for a serious examination of what it teaches and how it places millions of souls in bondage. All non-Catholics are still considered heretics, and if we lived in the Middle Ages, we would all be subject to serious persecution by this so-called church.

There are other denominations that consider their church to be the one and only true church besides RCC. During each mass a confession of faith is said stating the Jesus died on the cross for the remission of sin. There is no question of the salvation of Catholic souls whatsoever. They did add a lot of other stuff to complicate things but this is true of any denomination. It may be true that non-Catholics are considered heretics but a lot of members on this site consider Catholics to be heretic so all is fair. A heretic is simply a person who holds a contrary view to the majority. That does not make them evil. Yeah, good thing we don't live in the Middle Ages. Or in the early stages of this country which used to burn witches at the stake. I believe those were Protestants that did that despicable thing. Oh well, they're people too and I will say a prayer for the salvation of their souls as well. It's all good. Like Muzungu256 has stated, all churches were started by man somewhere.

 

[tourist]

There are some Christians in the Roman catholic church. They are not Christians because of Roman catholic doctrine but in spite of it. Most openly Christian catholics are not all that welcome in the catholic church.

The pope is catholic but not a Christian. Apostates talk like they believe but they do not believe. The pope has more respect for Mary than for Christ.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

I agree with you about becoming a Christian in spite of being a Catholic. Again, this is true for any denomination or practice. Having been a Catholic for many years (not currently) I would be confident in saying that in the Catholic Church all are welcome, openly Christian and those of other faiths as well. After all, the word Catholic means universal. I'm not sure if the current pope is Christian or not because I don't know his heart or of his personal relationship with the Lord. However, I would say that he is certainly not an evil man.

 

[JaumeJ]

It is easy to love Catholic families..........I know; I do.

 

[Nehemiah6]

However, I would say that he is certainly not an evil man.

Tell that to conservative Catholics, as well as well to the anti-globalists, anti-migration-invasion people, and the anti-New World Order crowd. As far as genuine Catholics are concerned, this pope is undermining his own religion and his own church. Now he wants to tamper with the Lord's Prayer, while promoting the false idea that Christians, Muslims, and Jews worship the same God.

 

[notuptome]

I agree with you about becoming a Christian in spite of being a Catholic. Again, this is true for any denomination or practice. Having been a Catholic for many years (not currently) I would be confident in saying that in the Catholic Church all are welcome, openly Christian and those of other faiths as well. After all, the word Catholic means universal. I'm not sure if the current pope is Christian or not because I don't know his heart or of his personal relationship with the Lord. However, I would say that he is certainly not an evil man.

Well catholics are trained to equivocate on these matters. I am not insensitive to the decades of indoctrination that catholics are subjected to but there is no question that the "church" dislikes and discourages salvation by grace through faith. They redefine grace as sacraments and faith as obedience to the "church".

The pope is an evil man because he promotes a tragically flawed doctrine. No amount of good works or feigned poverty will efface the stain of blood on his hands. More souls perish in ignorance of the gospel because of him than the mind can comprehend.

Pr 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

It is easy to love Catholic families..........I know; I do.

If you really love them declare the true eternal gospel of Christ to them.

Being good is not enough. One must be redeemed.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[tourist]

Tell that to conservative Catholics, as well as well to the anti-globalists, anti-migration-invasion people, and the anti-New World Order crowd. As far as genuine Catholics are concerned, this pope is undermining his own religion and his own church. Now he wants to tamper with the Lord's Prayer, while promoting the false idea that Christians, Muslims, and Jews worship the same God.

Yeah, his beliefs are screwy in this regard. Sort of like mixing oil with water.

 

[notuptome]

Yeah, his beliefs are screwy in this regard. Sort of like mixing oil with water.

Funny scripture says light and darkness do not mix.

2 Cor 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Ellsworth1943]

Salvation is a personal thing between an individual and God. There are probably both lost and saved individuals in every "church".
The word Christian has been so corrupted by todays world so as to have lost its original meaning.
If one takes that original meaning, I would say that very few saved people today are truly Christians.

 

[beastslayer1970]

Salvation is a personal thing between an individual and God. There are probably both lost and saved individuals in every "church".
The word Christian has been so corrupted by todays world so as to have lost its original meaning.
If one takes that original meaning, I would say that very few saved people today are truly Christians.

If you look at Paul he never addressed us as Christians, he addressed us as bond servants, sons, saints, brothers, etc.

I believe that this is because the term Christians as used in Acts 11:26 was a derogatory term, not one used in affection.

[SUP]26 [/SUP]and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And for an entire year they met with the church and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.

This term means little christs. The attitude expressed by Luke here is the same later in Acts 26 when Agrippa chides Paul by saying, you have almost persuaded me to be a little christ like you.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I believe that this is because the term Christians as used in Acts 11:26 was a derogatory term, not one used in affection.

This idea has been touted for some time, but the context does not really suggest this. Even if this were true, since that time the word "Christian" took on a different connotation, and the Western world became Christianized and remained so for a long time, and Christian influence affected many things.

 

[beastslayer1970]

This idea has been touted for some time, but the context does not really suggest this. Even if this were true, since that time the word "Christian" took on a different connotation, and the Western world became Christianized and remained so for a long time, and Christian influence affected many things.

We see Peter use the term in the same context, if you suffer as a little christ it is an honor, he is syaing that yes, you are called little christ's, but its ok. Secular historians also show the term was used in derogatory terms.

This is why Paul never called himself a christian but a follower of the Way.

 

[jaybird88]

Is Catholicism Christian? Are Catholics Saved?

i wouldnt know as i have not looked into the heart of each and every one of them.

i have a question, is a Christian a Christian when they spend all their time hating others because they are different and ignoring the example of Jesus?

 

[Bladerunner]

Is Catholicism Christian? Are Catholics Saved? Please post with scripture.

NO and YES........Scripture indeed....I do not read their books.....but a good book to read that is all about the RCC and their crimes against Humanity is "The Woman Rides the Beast" by David Hunt.

In Revelation chapter 4 all seven of the lampstands are in the Throne room of GOD. Therefore, some of the Catholics were overcomers and had become saved. See Thyatira, rev 2:18-29.

Diffinition of lampstands by Jesus Himself is they Represent the Seven Churches. rev 1:20

 

[Solemateleft]

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Only God knows who is saved or not

 

[followjesus]

all these churches are started by some man somewhere..........

denominational differences in belief creates a branching off of the church, it was never meant to divide into factions over details and small differences, every christian believes in Jesus Christ alone for salvation, that should be enough to bring folks together despite our pride and wanting to holfd to things taught that are incorrect and very provable in scripture. we should be able to remain together in spite of those differences, because our common faith is in the same savior.

remember Jesus said of a Kingdom.

mark 3:24 "And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand."


satan uses those kinds of things against people, so through false doctrine, He has divided folks who should be holding tightly together looking for commonalities in Christ, rather than labeling a denomination, or looking for any small difference in doctrine. i really believe God is Good and His will is that we wouls all repent and be saved so im not thinking Hes looking for a technicality to convict us by whi9ch particular church body we attend, or How exactly we pray or worship ect.... chaos and arguments are a device of the enemy working to divide the church because it weakens us and creates things like bitterness, arguing, slander and other things....

 

[followjesus]

I personally cannot see any scriptural support that the Beast or false prophet is a movement or church denomination. We must always remember that Satan seeks to be as God is and he counterfeits everything of God. Deception is his only weapon.

With that said, we must then look to the fact that Satan will do his best to imitate God and this includes his Triune nature.

This is why I believe the beast is a single man, the false prophet is a single man and Satan himself is already the god of this world.

A demonic Triune nature would like this in it's deception

Satan=impersonating God

The Beast=impersonating Jesus Christ

The False Prophet=impersonating the Holy Spirit

Satan=impersonating God

The Beast=impersonating Jesus Christ

The False Prophet=impersonating the Holy Spirit"


the Dragon, satan, Gives His power and authority to the Beast and the beast is made in His image as Jesus is the express image of God and God Gave Him all power and authority..... it is an mock for sure. the beast though is for certain not a single man, it is explained well in revelation. satan is a spirit, a heavenly being like an angel and all angels are spirits. the Beast is comprised of a political power comprised of 8 Kings, the eigth being the beast Like a Lamb who speaks as a dragon. if you look in daniel and revelation its pretty extensively explained


revelation 12:3 " And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
revelation 13 " And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."


revelation 17 " So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.


The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. 9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. 12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast."


the eighth King, is the One man , the beast with seven Heads is comprised of eighteen Kings including eight king and seven Kingdoms.

seven Kings, 5 already had ruled, one was in power and one was to come after John saw the vision. and then there are ten future Kings also which made up the ten horns.