How did Giants, the offspring of corrupt angels, survive the flood?
- Thread starter unobtrusive
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
I would also add that being that the "son's of God" presenting themselves before God, with Satan coming in among them, would infer that all parties are angelic. Let's look at the Genesis account:
"Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose."
First of all, we are already told in the first part of the verse that "mankind began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them," which would mean that men were already having children with women making the "son's of God" as being other than mankind. In other words, men and women were already multiplying and the son's of God, the angels, saw that the daughters of mankind were beautiful and took for themselves wives.
The words "the sons of God saw that the daughters of men" is making a distinction demonstrating that the "son's of God" are not of mankind of whom daughters were being born to.
"Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose."
First of all, we are already told in the first part of the verse that "mankind began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them," which would mean that men were already having children with women making the "son's of God" as being other than mankind. In other words, men and women were already multiplying and the son's of God, the angels, saw that the daughters of mankind were beautiful and took for themselves wives.
The words "the sons of God saw that the daughters of men" is making a distinction demonstrating that the "son's of God" are not of mankind of whom daughters were being born to.
I completely agree with you here. As I was saying to Hizikyah, I like the Ethiopic Enoch version of Genesis 6:1-2:
It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful. And when the angels, the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamored of the, saying to each other: Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beet children. - Enoch 7:1-2
"the angels, the sons of heaven" doesn't leave any doubt as to who the sons of God is referring to.
It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful. And when the angels, the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamored of the, saying to each other: Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beet children. - Enoch 7:1-2
"the angels, the sons of heaven" doesn't leave any doubt as to who the sons of God is referring to.
In the OT that's what He was called.
Exodus 23:20-22
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
This relates to John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word
Exodus 23:20-22
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
This relates to John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word
It refers to the things of God born again believers not the things of men as daughters thereof(un regenerated man.)
The term is Sons of God, Sons of heaven in not a phrase used in the scriptures.
When Peter tried to blur the line between the unseen "things of God" called faith and those of men, seen. He blasphemed the Son of man . We walk by faith, the unseen, not by Hollywood as a form of amusement.
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the "things that be of God", but "those that be of men".Mat 16:22
It would seem that when we fail to differentiate the things of God from the things of men .Satan gets his foot in the door.
It’s there that the antichrist does its best work.
In regard to this book of the alleged Enoch. I like stories from Aesop’s fables also. But what would it have to do with the word of God?
Sons of God are those who are led by the Spirit of God. Those that left their first place of habitation were led by the spirit of error. They are not taller than a football field 300 to 400 foot tall. That’s a tall tale.
Just show once instance of a spirit being having no form procreating with the human kind?
I cannot think of one reason why a person would espouse to believing that portion of scripture was any more that a warning not to be unevenly yoked. Otherwise what’s the purpose?
Can we take a DNA test to see if a person is part of those who left their first place of habitation? Is there a minimal height requirement seeing the maximum is 300 to 400 feet according to this book you call Enoch.
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person,(carrying the seed of Christ as those yoked with Christ) a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;2Pe 2:5
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh,are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.Jud 1:9
The term is Sons of God, Sons of heaven in not a phrase used in the scriptures.
When Peter tried to blur the line between the unseen "things of God" called faith and those of men, seen. He blasphemed the Son of man . We walk by faith, the unseen, not by Hollywood as a form of amusement.
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the "things that be of God", but "those that be of men".Mat 16:22
It would seem that when we fail to differentiate the things of God from the things of men .Satan gets his foot in the door.
It’s there that the antichrist does its best work.
In regard to this book of the alleged Enoch. I like stories from Aesop’s fables also. But what would it have to do with the word of God?
Sons of God are those who are led by the Spirit of God. Those that left their first place of habitation were led by the spirit of error. They are not taller than a football field 300 to 400 foot tall. That’s a tall tale.
Just show once instance of a spirit being having no form procreating with the human kind?
I cannot think of one reason why a person would espouse to believing that portion of scripture was any more that a warning not to be unevenly yoked. Otherwise what’s the purpose?
Can we take a DNA test to see if a person is part of those who left their first place of habitation? Is there a minimal height requirement seeing the maximum is 300 to 400 feet according to this book you call Enoch.
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person,(carrying the seed of Christ as those yoked with Christ) a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;2Pe 2:5
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh,are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.Jud 1:9
Last edited:
Ever since the Eisegeticals started telling us what Scripture says? 
So if someone is told "Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there" then they might be an Eisegetical if they tell them that the scriptures say not to believe them. Yet in Mark 9:23 it is clearly written "If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth."
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Heb 11:6
Do you think the way to Christ is by trying to lead others to him? Sounds like a curve ball rather than Fastball.
First problem you have is the NIV.... a Version that leaves out many verses or distorts other ones. I understand the Bible Version and its authors. WHat I have yet to find out, if the people who read the NIV really care?
The Giants came from the tainted Wives of Noah's sons (at least one of them). Only Noah, his wife and his sons had a perfect genetic code. Not so for the wives
The Giants came from the tainted Wives of Noah's sons (at least one of them). Only Noah, his wife and his sons had a perfect genetic code. Not so for the wives