Christians and Politics

[Donmech]

Just a simple question, however, maybe not a simple answer.

Can a true Christian consciously vote democrat and be square with God, considering all the immoral and unscriptural viewpoints that the modern day democrats attach themselves to. For example, how can a Christian pull the lever for a democrat when their position has been overwhelmingly for abortion, or gay marriage? These are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. Does anyone have an opinion about this subject? Does it really matter or does God hold us responsible for siding with the wrong crowd? If I vote someone into a position and they pass unscriptural laws, am I just as guilty as if I did the act?

 

[Ellsworth1943]

The question should be ---
Can a Christian vote for anyone today without compromising his Christians values.
Look at the person, not the party.

 

[notuptome]

Simple vote your conscience. I hate to say but it is no easier to vote Republican.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Locutus]

If you put all the politicians in the world in a big sack and start beating on it with a 2x4 you'll get the right one every time...

 

[Blain]

The thing with politics is that it's the same with Christian denominations not a single one has it all right. You can have nothing but an entire world of democrats and you will still have nothing but a one big steaming mess because no matter where you stand in politics you will not ever have it all right.

I tend to stay away from politics and just seek after God's heart, I figure that to be the best way to at least have a good virtuous standing if and when I ever get into politics

 

[Marcelo]

The thing with politics is that it's the same with Christian denominations not a single one has it all right.

In Brazil the "evangelical" congress members are worst than all the others. They fight against the gay agenda just to prove they are doing something. Voting is choosing the lesser of all evils and normally I don't vote for any pastor or RCC priest.

 

[Waggles]

Just a simple question, however, maybe not a simple answer.
Can a true Christian consciously vote democrat and be square with God, considering all the immoral and unscriptural viewpoints that the modern day democrats attach themselves to.

Politics is not the domain of the true Christian.
Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are of God.
We are to obey the law of the land and to be good citizens, that is all.
But we should not get involved in political activity.

My kingdom is not of this world.

The world belongs to Satan. It is corrupt and violent.
No political choices or activism will save the world from itself.
Rather the whole point of Christianity is to become separate from the
world and not to conform to worldly values, passions and lusts.
We are to be ambassadors for Jesus and the gospel.

If you have voluntary voting then don't vote.
Here in Australia we have compulsory voting so I need to turn up
at a polling booth and cast a vote. But I do not take it seriously because
they are all as self-serving and worldly as each other.

Your job is to be a light shining bright in a dark world and to preach the
good news of salvation.
This world will burn regardless of who is in the White House.

 

[Socreta93]

I try to separate the two. If a candidate's policies benefits my daily life, economics, healthcare, ect... then I'll consider voting for them. I don't use politicians as the means to help my relationship with God. That's why I'm independent politically. Whoever I like or seems to benefit more, I'll vote for them despite their party. If a person is for abortion but at the same time wants to help me keep Medicaid, I'll support them politically and continue my walk in faith. I know some may disagree but that's what I believe.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Can a true Christian consciously vote democrat and be square with God, considering all the immoral and unscriptural viewpoints that the modern day democrats attach themselves to.

The answer is an unequivocal "NO!" By the same token the majority of RINOs (Republicans in Name Only) are no better, and Steve Bannon is crusading against their total removal from politics (and succeeding to a large degree).

At the same time the Christian vote can have a tremendous impact on whether the nation goes into anarchy or remains a bastion of freedom. It would appear that Trump's victory was in no small measure because of how conservative Christians supported him and voted for him. And some Christians at least are convinced that it was the Lord's hand that really was behind this.

 

[MarcR]

Abortion and the homosexual agenda are terrible; but so is lack of compassion for the aged and disabled.

All are equally unscriptural. There are few politicians in either party who consistently try to do what is morally right.

People who seek to make the rich richer on the backs of the poor and the middle class are no better than those that support abortion or the middle class agenda.

If we are going to vote moral values the place to start is at the primary process.

The candidates the parties put forward are equally loathsome.

 

[Depleted]

Just a simple question, however, maybe not a simple answer.

Can a true Christian consciously vote democrat and be square with God, considering all the immoral and unscriptural viewpoints that the modern day democrats attach themselves to. For example, how can a Christian pull the lever for a democrat when their position has been overwhelmingly for abortion, or gay marriage? These are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. Does anyone have an opinion about this subject? Does it really matter or does God hold us responsible for siding with the wrong crowd? If I vote someone into a position and they pass unscriptural laws, am I just as guilty as if I did the act?

A. Are you aware that this is an international site? That means there are people on here who cannot vote Republican nor Democrat, because they aren't American, so can't vote in our country. It also means, just like I have trouble remember who the Tories are in the UK, some people can't remember who the Democrats are in the US.

B. How could I vote for a Democrat? I really am Republican, but by default. It's closer to what I believe. BUT, had you given me a better choice than Trump in the last Presidential election, I'd have voted for that person in a New York second! Technically, Trump is Republican. Beliefs-wise, he ain't. He's libertarian, and I don't cotton to libertarians either. (Liberals I get sometimes, because sometimes their hearts really are for the down and out. Libertarians are only out for themselves.) Sometimes I get to vote for a candidate I agree with. Usually, I vote for the least offensive. Lately, I vote against the most evil, which, as a statement from a Christian truly stinks!

C. You think I shouldn't vote for a Democrat because of abortion or gay marriage? Obvious question, since I live in PA, right across the river from NJ. NJ has a Republican governor. HE made same-sex marriages legal in his state. He also decriminalized pot. What's the difference there? And, big whoop. The Republicans are against abortion? Where's your proof? Abortion became an illegal law of the land in 1972. Since then, half the years there was a Republican President and half the time a Republican Congress. Abortion is STILL the law of the land. Want to know what would stop that? All we need is one President to turn to the Supreme Court and denounce that "law." Checks and balances. The Supreme Court cannot over rule a President! So, basically, you want to know how a Christian can be a Democrat as easily as a Republican? Easy enough -- both sides lie, so why not? They're ALL "the wrong crowd." All I'm doing is giving drag to a country that is no longer on the brink of a cliff. We've tumbled off that cliff years ago. Now the only question is will we crash and burn, or will God save us?

I tend to think "crash and burn."

 

[preacher4truth]

Just a simple question, however, maybe not a simple answer.

Can a true Christian consciously vote democrat and be square with God, considering all the immoral and unscriptural viewpoints that the modern day democrats attach themselves to. For example, how can a Christian pull the lever for a democrat when their position has been overwhelmingly for abortion, or gay marriage? These are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. Does anyone have an opinion about this subject? Does it really matter or does God hold us responsible for siding with the wrong crowd? If I vote someone into a position and they pass unscriptural laws, am I just as guilty as if I did the act?

They justify voting for them by saying the immoral are to be loved by us.

And if you don't vote for them, well, you're a racist bigot. They're tolerant like that. And loving. And don't have double-standards!

 

[Marcelo]

Politics is not the domain of the true Christian.
Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are of God.
We are to obey the law of the land and to be good citizens, that is all.
But we should not get involved in political activity.

My kingdom is not of this world.

The world belongs to Satan. It is corrupt and violent.
No political choices or activism will save the world from itself.
Rather the whole point of Christianity is to become separate from the
world and not to conform to worldly values, passions and lusts.
We are to be ambassadors for Jesus and the gospel.

If you have voluntary voting then don't vote.
Here in Australia we have compulsory voting so I need to turn up
at a polling booth and cast a vote. But I do not take it seriously because
they are all as self-serving and worldly as each other.

Your job is to be a light shining bright in a dark world and to preach the
good news of salvation.
This world will burn regardless of who is in the White House.

There's only a little tiny difference between your opinion and mine: I wouldn't choose to abstain from voting, but I totally agree with everything else you wrote.

 

[preacher4truth]

But we should not get involved in political activity.

Thank God some Christian men and women run for office and don't believe the unBiblical above.

 

[Pemican]

Both parties are corrupt to the core. Your faith is not in politics but in Christ. The best thing you can do for your country is to "grow in grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." Good law and good politics flow out of a nation with lots of maturing believers who put the Word of God first in their lives. I no longer care who gets elected because that is missing the point. If we have corrupt leaders it is because the Christians in this country are not faithful to the Word of God. They have turned their backs on God and His Word and chased after false gods of power, money, lust, pleasure etc.

 

[shrume]

Politics is not the domain of the true Christian.
Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are of God.
We are to obey the law of the land and to be good citizens, that is all.
But we should not get involved in political activity.

Then only ungodly people will be in government.

My kingdom is not of this world.

The world belongs to Satan. It is corrupt and violent.
No political choices or activism will save the world from itself.
Rather the whole point of Christianity is to become separate from the
world and not to conform to worldly values, passions and lusts.
We are to be ambassadors for Jesus and the gospel.

If you have voluntary voting then don't vote.

Then you are part of the problem.

Here in Australia we have compulsory voting so I need to turn up
at a polling booth and cast a vote. But I do not take it seriously because
they are all as self-serving and worldly as each other.

Then you are part of the problem.

Your job is to be a light shining bright in a dark world and to preach the
good news of salvation.
This world will burn regardless of who is in the White House.

While that is true, it is still worth voting to try and get godly people into the government. Sometimes your choice is to vote for the lesser of two evils, but that's better than apathy.

 

[Depleted]

Thank God some Christian men and women run for office and don't believe the unBiblical above.

Why should I thank God for that? I haven't had the chance to vote in a Christian in decades. AND, the first time I could vote for one, (also the first time I voted, and it was a Presidential year), I voted for the non Christian because the Christian seemed incompetent. Ends up the Christian won, and I was right. He was incompetent. (Carter.)

 

[Waggles]

Then only ungodly people will be in government.
While that is true, it is still worth voting to try and get godly people into the government. Sometimes your choice is to vote for the lesser of two evils, but that's better than apathy.

It is not about apathy. Far from it.
Yes some people are "less" evil or un-Godly than others.
But they all promise much and deliver little.

But as a Spiritual man I set my goals and desires on things above.
For whether I vote progressive or conservative or independent the
fate of this world remains the same.

Apathy is indifference or being unconcerned.
I know what is going on in my neighbourhood, my state, my nation,
the world.
That is exactly why I spend my time talking about Jesus Christ and salvation.
Because when that first nuke goes off our politics won't be worth
anything.
Only having Jesus or not having Jesus will be important.

 

[jb]

All politicians are liars, the better the politician the bigger the liar, hence God, through Paul commands us in 1Tim 2v1-8 to pray for ALL in authority, so that even when they are serving their own interests (which invariably they do), God can still over ride the bad / selfish decisions that they make!

Nowhere in the Scriptures does it tell us to vote, but to pray for them and be subject to our rulers. Rom 13

 

[dcontroversal]

In my view no.....and I have heard believers say they will vote for the lesser of two evils.....I say why vote for any evil......my question is....why do we need to vote for any candidate.....where does it say we have to participate....render unto Caesar is applicable unto taxes....and lest we forget....when Jesus said that...Rome was using tax money to support legions that conquered, killed, murdered women, children, Christians etc.....so....there is a fine line and one must bear their own conscience.....but to your original question.....I do not see how any so called believer can support a party that murders babies, promotes sexual immorality, transgenderism etc......