God’s Sovereignty Decreed Man’s Free Will
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Mankind refused to walk by faith (the unseen) and is why they did walk by sight as instant gratification and their soul died instantly.
The heart of mankind was made corrupted as they broke the commandment. It became desperately wicked as in who can know it?
We are given a new spirit that will never die and therefore a new heart giving life to our soul so that we can commune with Him not seen.
Free will to a new creature is to do the will of Him not seen as our daily bread,,, the food the disciples knew not of. .
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In Adam we see what happens when man exercises his will. Yet many today are misled by their thoughts on will to the extent they believe they can through ableness choose God when Scripture dogmatically asserts no man is able to come to God. Jesus stands in the way with truth: "No man can..." He didn't say "No man may..." Every lost man has a disabled sticker declaring their incapability of coming to God.
Mt 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Must be the righteousness that still falls short of meriting salvation but still is good on it's own merits.
Adam became as God knowing good and evil.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Must be the righteousness that still falls short of meriting salvation but still is good on it's own merits.
Adam became as God knowing good and evil.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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1. Yes,. Including you and I
2. Again, In romans 1. Paul said we know this
3. And paul also said we have no excuse, BECAUSE WE KNOW.
4. We still have to choose. .. Noah could have said no, Abraham could have said no. Moses could have said no. Daniel could have said no. All these men could have said no. And God would have chosen others to do what he needed done.
Man does not will anything, and his free will does not stop from getting his will done, Jonah proves this, Jonah said no, and God did not force him, but gave him a choice, Die, or do my will. Jonah could have chosen to die in that fish.
2. Again, In romans 1. Paul said we know this
3. And paul also said we have no excuse, BECAUSE WE KNOW.
4. We still have to choose. .. Noah could have said no, Abraham could have said no. Moses could have said no. Daniel could have said no. All these men could have said no. And God would have chosen others to do what he needed done.
Man does not will anything, and his free will does not stop from getting his will done, Jonah proves this, Jonah said no, and God did not force him, but gave him a choice, Die, or do my will. Jonah could have chosen to die in that fish.
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We saw the same in abraham when he chose to leave, In noah when he chose to build an ark, The lady who chose to hide the two spy’s, We saw it in Adam when he chose to repent, We saw it in daniel when he chose to do Gods will not the kings, We see it all over scripture. Where people chose God over self. And God opens their eyes to truth.
Adam was a unique man, in that he was the only one created sinless. Eve was in the same state, but she was formed from the man. You can not posit pre-fall Adam into our status.
Adam was born posse peccare posse non peccare. We weren't born in that status.
Look at what transpired in the Garden. God gave Adam one simple command, don't eat of the ToK. That's it. There were no hoops to jump through, no alternative things he needed to do, &c. All he was commanded to do was not eat of that tree.
In comes the serpent and tricks Eve. She knew what would happen to her and Adam if they ate of that tree, so Adam must have told her what God told him. She was not yet taken from Adam when God gave him that command. Yet, when the serpent said she could become like God, this happened...When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.[Genesis 3:6] She saw that it could make her wise, and she believed that serpent hook, line, sinker, rod and reel and boat. Adam was right there with her and he did not stop her. Adam chose his wife over his God, and that shows his heart was not right before God when he took the fruit and ate it.
Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.[James 1:15]
Adam was born posse peccare posse non peccare. We weren't born in that status.
Look at what transpired in the Garden. God gave Adam one simple command, don't eat of the ToK. That's it. There were no hoops to jump through, no alternative things he needed to do, &c. All he was commanded to do was not eat of that tree.
In comes the serpent and tricks Eve. She knew what would happen to her and Adam if they ate of that tree, so Adam must have told her what God told him. She was not yet taken from Adam when God gave him that command. Yet, when the serpent said she could become like God, this happened...When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.[Genesis 3:6] She saw that it could make her wise, and she believed that serpent hook, line, sinker, rod and reel and boat. Adam was right there with her and he did not stop her. Adam chose his wife over his God, and that shows his heart was not right before God when he took the fruit and ate it.
Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.[James 1:15]
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lol. After they sin, the only thing that changed was they were dead, and headed to hell. God covered them in skins, They did not have to chose to allow him, they could have went on and continued in their sin. But they chose to trust God. Just like all people have to do.
A dead person can not make himself alive, Thats why God has to intervene, he left clues, as to how he was going to restor man, Even giving the law. The law is useless. Totally useless. If man can not understand what it means..
Most Isreal chose to reject it and distort it, but we have proof of many who recieved it and understood it.
David understood, Blessed is the man for whome God does not impute sin.
A dead person can not make himself alive, Thats why God has to intervene, he left clues, as to how he was going to restor man, Even giving the law. The law is useless. Totally useless. If man can not understand what it means..
Most Isreal chose to reject it and distort it, but we have proof of many who recieved it and understood it.
David understood, Blessed is the man for whome God does not impute sin.