WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE "REBELLION"/''FALLING AWAY" OF THE LAST DAYS

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WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE "REBELLION"/''FALLING AWAY" OF THE LAST DAYS

POINTS:


  • We ARE in the midst of the 'falling away' (of Christians from Jesus Christ) that precedes the revealing of the anti-christ



  • If you don't know this (don't recognize this major sign of the times), you're probably a part of the apostasy...



  • There will not be a last-days 'revival' of the Church or the saints---just more and more apostasy, until...



  • The anti-christ is revealed; all the Christians who thought they were going to be raptured before the Tribulation are dismayed to find out they were wrong; most Christians (apostate, rebellious, true Christians, not 'fake Christians') forsake Christ and take the mark of the beast, thus forfeiting their salvation (which they believe they can't forfeit, thanks to Once-Saved-Always-Saved...); most of the rest of us, those who remain faithful to Jesus, conquer/overcome the beast by martyrdom.

ALL OF IT TRUE.

(If you don't believe it, you're about to find out that it is.)​
 

notuptome

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Re: WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE "REBELLION"/''FALLING AWAY" OF THE LAST DAYS

POINTS:


  • We ARE in the midst of the 'falling away' (of Christians from Jesus Christ) that precedes the revealing of the anti-christ



  • If you don't know this (don't recognize this major sign of the times), you're probably a part of the apostasy...



  • There will not be a last-days 'revival' of the Church or the saints---just more and more apostasy, until...



  • The anti-christ is revealed; all the Christians who thought they were going to be raptured before the Tribulation are dismayed to find out they were wrong; most Christians (apostate, rebellious, true Christians, not 'fake Christians') forsake Christ and take the mark of the beast, thus forfeiting their salvation (which they believe they can't forfeit, thanks to Once-Saved-Always-Saved...); most of the rest of us, those who remain faithful to Jesus, conquer/overcome the beast by martyrdom.

ALL OF IT TRUE.

(If you don't believe it, you're about to find out that it is.)​
Well if you deign to support your opinion with scripture I would consider it's merits. Until then you are just speaking into the air.

1Co 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Blain

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Re: WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE "REBELLION"/''FALLING AWAY" OF THE LAST DAYS

POINTS:


  • We ARE in the midst of the 'falling away' (of Christians from Jesus Christ) that precedes the revealing of the anti-christ



  • If you don't know this (don't recognize this major sign of the times), you're probably a part of the apostasy...



  • There will not be a last-days 'revival' of the Church or the saints---just more and more apostasy, until...



  • The anti-christ is revealed; all the Christians who thought they were going to be raptured before the Tribulation are dismayed to find out they were wrong; most Christians (apostate, rebellious, true Christians, not 'fake Christians') forsake Christ and take the mark of the beast, thus forfeiting their salvation (which they believe they can't forfeit, thanks to Once-Saved-Always-Saved...); most of the rest of us, those who remain faithful to Jesus, conquer/overcome the beast by martyrdom.

ALL OF IT TRUE.

(If you don't believe it, you're about to find out that it is.)​
I don't think it is for you to decide who is part of the apostasy, God looks to the heart not whether or not people believe what you do about the end times.
 

Joidevivre

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But God has never never stopped working. He is still preparing His bride - and continues to build His church. And "Where sin abounds, grace abounds even more" Romans 5:20

Instead of focusing on something you really could not do anything about, why don't you try to discern where He IS working and join Him?
 

trofimus

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To alarm people by:

"if you will take the mark of the beast you will loose your salvation"

or
"antichrist is already here"

..and not giving any information of what is the mark of the beast and who/what is antichrist...

Your post is useless, just for bringing in fear upon the weaker ones.
 
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Such a dark and angry heart this new member has.
 
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Why do you not know what Scriptures pertain to/teach this? This is basic truth and fact. It is only because of the apostasy that any of what I just stated would seem strange or false to a Christian. (I am certainly not "speaking into the air" to those who know these things.) I recommend seeking the Lord for understanding about this if you don't know that it is true, and reading the Bible for yourself (with a clear conscience, a sincere mind, humble heart, and clean hands toward God). You need to know that it's true because the Lord shows you that it is true (if you really don't know that it is), not because I told you so. Hopefully He will do so.
 
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Re: WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE "REBELLION"/''FALLING AWAY" OF THE LAST DAYS

POINTS:


  • We ARE in the midst of the 'falling away' (of Christians from Jesus Christ) that precedes the revealing of the anti-christ



  • If you don't know this (don't recognize this major sign of the times), you're probably a part of the apostasy...



  • There will not be a last-days 'revival' of the Church or the saints---just more and more apostasy, until...



  • The anti-christ is revealed; all the Christians who thought they were going to be raptured before the Tribulation are dismayed to find out they were wrong; most Christians (apostate, rebellious, true Christians, not 'fake Christians') forsake Christ and take the mark of the beast, thus forfeiting their salvation (which they believe they can't forfeit, thanks to Once-Saved-Always-Saved...); most of the rest of us, those who remain faithful to Jesus, conquer/overcome the beast by martyrdom.

ALL OF IT TRUE.

(If you don't believe it, you're about to find out that it is.)​
"In the midst" suggestion "as bad as it gets." Nope. It's been worse.

Last days? We've been in them for almost 2000 years.

There has never been a time when people weren't falling away. Read Hosea for an example of an earlier falling away.''Stop ignoring Christ by being into seeing the signs of his return.

Get away from churches who only drill in eschatology, because they are focused on future telling, not Christ. And then grow to understand t'ain't many of us ever going to agree on how this ends, but it doesn't matter because of how it ends. No matter what, it ends with the Lord getting his perfect will for his glory and his people's good.

Truthfully the conspirators always get the headsets of 20-something and 30-something year olds to fill them with this junk so they can live in fear, and pass it along to younger people to live in the same fear. Good trick, but not from God.
 

Blain

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Why do you not know what Scriptures pertain to/teach this? This is basic truth and fact. It is only because of the apostasy that any of what I just stated would seem strange or false to a Christian. (I am certainly not "speaking into the air" to those who know these things.) I recommend seeking the Lord for understanding about this if you don't know that it is true, and reading the Bible for yourself (with a clear conscience, a sincere mind, humble heart, and clean hands toward God). You need to know that it's true because the Lord shows you that it is true (if you really don't know that it is), not because I told you so. Hopefully He will do so.
I study bible prophecy so I know what the scriptures say about this, it is true we are in the midst of the last days but I do not appreciate your accusations. The fruit of the spirit is love the spirit of the enemy is accusation and regardless if what your post says is true or not my beef is you saying people are part of the apostasy if they don't recognize this.
 
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"In the midst" suggestion "as bad as it gets." Nope. It's been worse.

Last days? We've been in them for almost 2000 years.

There has never been a time when people weren't falling away. Read Hosea for an example of an earlier falling away.''Stop ignoring Christ by being into seeing the signs of his return.

Get away from churches who only drill in eschatology, because they are focused on future telling, not Christ. And then grow to understand t'ain't many of us ever going to agree on how this ends, but it doesn't matter because of how it ends. No matter what, it ends with the Lord getting his perfect will for his glory and his people's good.

Truthfully the conspirators always get the headsets of 20-something and 30-something year olds to fill them with this junk so they can live in fear, and pass it along to younger people to live in the same fear. Good trick, but not from God.
One of your best posts.
 
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How is it useless? The Bible tells us what we need to know about who the antichrist will be. I am not a teacher of doctrine, but a prophet. My calling is to point Christians to Christ for the understanding they need, not to me. If you need it, seek Him. If you think I'm fear-mongering, without giving information, are the Revelation, and the book of Daniel, and the other scriptures which speak of these things fear-mongering too?
 

trofimus

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I study bible prophecy so I know what the scriptures say about this, it is true we are in the midst of the last days
Last days are now for 2000 years. If we are in the midst of the last days, another 2000 years are before us?
 
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Why is The Kingdom of God described as "leaven?" (Any bakers here?)

How does leaven work? And what happens to both the bread and the leaven if it is put into the oven before the leaven has fully done its work throughout all the dough?
 

Adstar

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POINTS:


  • We ARE in the midst of the 'falling away' (of Christians from Jesus Christ) that precedes the revealing of the anti-christ
I believe that is correct.. But i also believe the false doctrines that began the falling away where introduced soon after the days of Jesus on earth.. apostacy has been with us in many varied forms for centuries.. But in the end times the falling away from the truth will accelerate.. So by the time of the coming of the lawless one the son of perdition the number of real Christians will be few..



  • If you don't know this (don't recognize this major sign of the times), you're probably a part of the apostasy...
Maybe, maybe not.. Blanket statements like this are dangerous... There are still people who will come to believe in the truth who are currently atheists or in other religions who have absolutly no idea about Christian end times theology.. There are simple babe Christiasn who only really know about the basic truth that saves.. So not all who do not understand it are part of the apostacy..

  • There will not be a last-days 'revival' of the Church or the saints---just more and more apostasy, until...
Agreed the Bible does not show and end times revival.. Actually The Bible declares that the love of many will grow cold and there will be a great falling away.. Jesus even lamented when he asked:::

Luke 18: KJV
8 "I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?"



  • The anti-christ is revealed; all the Christians who thought they were going to be raptured before the Tribulation are dismayed to find out they were wrong; most Christians (apostate, rebellious, true Christians, not 'fake Christians') forsake Christ and take the mark of the beast, thus forfeiting their salvation (which they believe they can't forfeit, thanks to Once-Saved-Always-Saved...); most of the rest of us, those who remain faithful to Jesus, conquer/overcome the beast by martyrdom.
True Christians shall never forsake the Christ because they will be protected from the great deception by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.. Because they have embraced and accepted the Love of the truth that is saving them.. And many shall be beheaded.. We do not conquer the beast by our work of martyrdom.. That is not the critical issue.. We overcome by believing what Jesus did for us on the cross to overcome satan... Accepting being executed is simply an outcome for our embrace of Gods will.. Which moves us not to love our own lives in this world but to gladly suffer death for His names sake...
 
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POINTS:


  • We ARE in the midst of the 'falling away' (of Christians from Jesus Christ) that precedes the revealing of the anti-christ



  • If you don't know this (don't recognize this major sign of the times), you're probably a part of the apostasy...



  • There will not be a last-days 'revival' of the Church or the saints---just more and more apostasy, until...



  • The anti-christ is revealed; all the Christians who thought they were going to be raptured before the Tribulation are dismayed to find out they were wrong; most Christians (apostate, rebellious, true Christians, not 'fake Christians') forsake Christ and take the mark of the beast, thus forfeiting their salvation (which they believe they can't forfeit, thanks to Once-Saved-Always-Saved...); most of the rest of us, those who remain faithful to Jesus, conquer/overcome the beast by martyrdom.

ALL OF IT TRUE.

(If you don't believe it, you're about to find out that it is.)​
That is likened to quenching the Spirit as an air hopelessness.

Or plainly speaking, No. you are mistaken.
Hisgalus 2Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB)

2 To the malach (angel) of the Kehillah (Congregation) in Ephesus, write: These things says the One holding shivat hakokhavim (seven stars) in the yad yamin (right hand) of him, the One walking in the midst of the sheva menorot hazahav (seven golden menorahs):
2 I have da’as of your ma’asim (deeds) and your amal (toil) and the savlanut (patient endurance) of you [pl.] and that you cannot bear anshei resha (evil men), and have tested the ones making the claim that they are "Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach’s shlichim" and are not, and found them kozvim (liars).
3 And you have savlanut (patient endurance), and you have persevered because of ha-Shem of me and have not become weary.
4 But I have this against you, that you abandoned your Ahavah HaRishonah. [YIRMEYAH 2:2]
5 Therefore, let there be zikaron (remembrance) of from where you have fallen and make teshuva (repentance, turning from sin to G-d) and do the Ma’asim HaRishonim; but, if not, I am coming to you [pl.] and I will remove your menorah from its place, unless you make teshuva.





Sin being measured by the hardness of ones Heart.
Romans 2
2 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.


2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.


3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?


4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?


5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
 
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  • We ARE in the midst of the 'falling away' (of Christians from Jesus Christ) that precedes the revealing of the anti-christ
That is what the antichrist is hoping that men would walk by sight after a signs and wonders gospel ..... falling right into the hands of the father of lies. .

He has been revealed as working in many antichrists they were there when it was written.. we are still in the last times.

The use of the singular(antichrist) and plural(antichrists) must be defined using the scripture..

1John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist (singular) shall come, even now are there many antichrists;(plural) whereby we know that it is the last time.

Seeking after a sign as that seen before a person believes is not walking by faith.

The Jews sought after a signs and wonders gospel in that way. They stumbled over the cross an emblem of faith (the unseen eternal )

1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
 
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Monnkai

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POINTS:


  • We ARE in the midst of the 'falling away' (of Christians from Jesus Christ) that precedes the revealing of the anti-christ



  • If you don't know this (don't recognize this major sign of the times), you're probably a part of the apostasy...



  • There will not be a last-days 'revival' of the Church or the saints---just more and more apostasy, until...



  • The anti-christ is revealed; all the Christians who thought they were going to be raptured before the Tribulation are dismayed to find out they were wrong; most Christians (apostate, rebellious, true Christians, not 'fake Christians') forsake Christ and take the mark of the beast, thus forfeiting their salvation (which they believe they can't forfeit, thanks to Once-Saved-Always-Saved...); most of the rest of us, those who remain faithful to Jesus, conquer/overcome the beast by martyrdom.

ALL OF IT TRUE.

(If you don't believe it, you're about to find out that it is.)​
If God didnt recently grant me peace I might be terrifyed by this post. This post doesnt help people suffering anxiety in an already cruel enoough world
 
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Last days are now for 2000 years. If we are in the midst of the last days, another 2000 years are before us?
It actually could be another million years. We are specifically told that we do not know... any of us.
 

trofimus

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How is it useless? The Bible tells us what we need to know about who the antichrist will be.
So, there is no need for such "prophecies" from you, without any new information.

I am not a teacher of doctrine, but a prophet.
Who told you that you are a prophet and who verified your gift of prophecy?
 

trofimus

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It actually could be another million years. We are specifically told that we do not know... any of us.
Because the Bible and end time signs are all about the planet Earth, I do not think we will last (as a civilization) for another million years. We would very certainly be living on more planets after such time.

Christ will return to Earth, but what about people on Mars etc.