What was the "different gospel" in Galatians 1:6?l

[reneweddaybyday]

Because Christ made a mistake choosing Peter?

Why do you believe there was any mistake made?

All Peter said in Acts 15:7 was that he had been the one through whom the gentiles first heard the gospel. Scripture never indicated that the ministry of Peter was limited to the gentiles.

In fact, Scripture indicates in Gal 2:9 that Paul was to preach unto the gentiles. And this is further corroborated in Acts 9 as the Lord told Ananias that Paul was a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the gentiles … (Acts 9:15).

Who are these people Paul is referring to in 2Cor 11? Whoever they are, they had to have some sway among the people Paul says who are converting them to "another gospel". They couldn't have been among the Jews who were calling for Christ's torture and death...those Jews wouldn't be preaching Christ.

There really is only one group that could fit the description Paul lays out in 2Cor 11 that is some sort of competing gospel to what he preaches. The only Jewish group that had clout because of their direct experience with Christ are the original apostles.

Unless you know of another? Paul's mysterious competitors that are somehow also Jewish, Hebrew, Israelite, servants of Christ, called Apostles etc? Who are they?

Read through the book of Acts.


In Acts 12, we see Herod killed James the brother of John (vs 2) and because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also (vs 4).


In Acts 13, we have Elymas the sorcerer withstood Paul and Barnabas as he sought to turn away Sergius Paulus from the faith (vs 8).


In Acts 13:45, we see it was the Jews who spake against those things which were spoken by Paul.. And in vs 50, it was the jews who stirred up the devout and honorable women, and the chief men of the city, and raised persecution against Paul and Barnabas.


In Acts 14:2, it was the unbelieving jews who stirred up the gentiles.



These are a couple of examples. You can read through the book of Acts and read about where the Apostles and Paul went and who it was that persecuted them. It was a mixed bag ... Romans, gentiles, jews. We have an adversary whose ministry is to steal, kill, and destroy (John 10:10). The adversary will use any means to stop those who speak the truth of God's Word. He will use any person he can stir up. He doesn't care if it's one group or many groups.

 

[Studyman]

If it is so easy please teach us how to keep the law of Moses. Remember that many brothers and sisters can barely read, so we need a simplified list of laws that apply to Christians. Can you do that for us?

You know the Laws of God, they are in your heart, you have seen them all. I would say the Commandment Jesus said was made for you and I, would be a good place to start. Even someone who can't read is able to comprehend such a simple Commandment.

If a man humbles Himself to God in this Commandment that He actually created for man, Jesus will lead them to the rest.

"Seek Ye FIRST the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness", and all these things will be added to you.

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Timothy 5:17-18, “Elders who handle their duties well should be considered worthy of double compensation, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, “You must not muzzle an ox while it is treading out grain,” and “A worker deserves his pay.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 9:11-12, “If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you? If others enjoy this right over you, don’t we have a stronger claim? But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we tolerate everything in order not to put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of the Messiah.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 10:7-8, “As you go, proclaim, ‘The kingdom of heaven is near! Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, drive out demons. Without payment you have received; without payment you are to give.”[/FONT]

 

[lightbearer]

. ( especially when you are not 100% sure it is the right day, different calendars over thousands of years, but I digress.....

You are misinformed. The Israelites having been keeping the Sabbath since the time of Moses. The time and day is not an issue.

 

[gb9]

You are misinformed. The Israelites having been keeping the Sabbath since the time of Moses. The time and day is not an issue.

no, I am not. the Hebrew sacred calendar was based on the moon cycle. note all the references to new moons in the O.T.
we are on the Gregorian calendar, based on the sun, with about an 11 day difference. not to mention, parts of it are based on Babylonian calendars.

I am not saying modern Israel does not keep the Sabbath, I am saying it would be hard to 100% say it exactly matches the O.T. specific instructions. now YOU are informed.

 

[Hizikyah]

it is also amazing that some want to lecture us about sin, like they never do anything wrong. keeping the Sabbath is not a merit test of sin and righteousness. ( especially when you are not 100% sure it is the right day, different calendars over thousands of years, but I digress.... ) knowing to do good, and not doing so is the merit test of sin.

You are misinformed. The Israelites having been keeping the Sabbath since the time of Moses. The time and day is not an issue.

I want to add and if Yahshua/Jesus did not see it fitting to change the day I also do not see need to change the day.

 

[lightbearer]

no, I am not. the Hebrew sacred calendar was based on the moon cycle. .

The 1st day is still the first day and the 7th day is still the seventh regardless which calendar one uses. The Seven day week cycle did not change.

 

[vic1980]

no, I am not. the Hebrew sacred calendar was based on the moon cycle. note all the references to new moons in the O.T.
we are on the Gregorian calendar, based on the sun, with about an 11 day difference. not to mention, parts of it are based on Babylonian calendars.

I am not saying modern Israel does not keep the Sabbath, I am saying it would be hard to 100% say it exactly matches the O.T. specific instructions. now YOU are informed.

If you have such a insurance that some Roman pope or rabbi change God Sabbath , my friend you have fell , as a victims to there lies . Examine the scriptures for there were many Jews all over the world that keep The Sabbath day.

There is a saying out in the internet that when the temple was destroyed in 70ad the Sabbath was lost, but this saying does not add up with all the Jewish synagogue around the world.

Shalom

 

[lightbearer]

The 1st day is still the first day and the 7th day is still the seventh regardless which calendar one uses. The Seven day week cycle did not change.

To further this point here is a link. https://www.ecclesia.org/truth/calendar.html

 

[lightbearer]

1 Timothy 5:17-18, “Elders who handle their duties well should be considered worthy of double compensation, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, “You must not muzzle an ox while it is treading out grain,” and “A worker deserves his pay.”


1 Corinthians 9:11-12, “If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you? If others enjoy this right over you, don’t we have a stronger claim? But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we tolerate everything in order not to put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of the Messiah.”


Matthew 10:7-8, “As you go, proclaim, ‘The kingdom of heaven is near! Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, drive out demons. Without payment you have received; without payment you are to give.”

Amen Brother! Would make for a good thread!

 

[Marcelo]

You know the Laws of God, they are in your heart, you have seen them all. I would say the Commandment Jesus said was made for you and I, would be a good place to start. Even someone who can't read is able to comprehend such a simple Commandment.

If a man humbles Himself to God in this Commandment that He actually created for man, Jesus will lead them to the rest.

"Seek Ye FIRST the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness", and all these things will be added to you.

I'm not talking about the laws of God that are in our hearts, I'm talking about the law of Moses (laws of God given to the Israelites through Moses).

In Christian Chat there are a number of law keepers, i.e., people who believe Christians are under the law of Moses. They say that Christians who willfully disregard the law of Moses will not be saved (= will go to hell), but they don't provide us with a list of mitzvot that are to be observed.

This law-keeping theology is very complex and it's advocates shouldn't expect us to be able to put together a list of mitzvot.

If these law keepers feel it's their mission to teach us that we are under the law, they should also feel responsible for providing us with an easy guide on how to keep the law of Moses.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Galatians chapter 1

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—7 which is really no gospel at all.


If the "different gospel" was not grace + the law of Moses, what was it then?

The Grace of Christ was made possible by what Christ accomplished on the Cross. Anything that is not Faith exclusively in Jesus Christ and the Cross (i.e., The Blood, i.e., The Finished Work) where the victory was won is another Gospel. Paul said, "We preach Christ Crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness" (1 Corinthians 1:23). He also said, "For I determined not to know anything among you, except Jesus Christ, and him Crucified" (1 Corinthians 2:2). But God forbid that I should glory, except in the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world (Galatians 6:14).

 

[vic1980]

If you have such a insurance that some Roman pope or rabbi change God Sabbath , my friend you have fell , as a victims to there lies . Examine the scriptures for there were many Jews all over the world that keep The Sabbath day.

There is a saying out in the internet that when the temple was destroyed in 70ad the Sabbath was lost, but this saying does not add up with all the Jewish synagogue around the world.

Shalom

Too add to this comment i have written , this does not mean that the RCC/Popery did not change God Law , But this comment is directed upon God Sabbath and the Jewish people. The Jewish sect have keep records throughout millennium

As for the RCC/Popery there is a list that reaches to the heavens , on thee blasphemies they have insituted and regarded as cannon to God law. But this is another subject to be discuss on a newer thread.

Shalom

 

[Studyman]

I'm not talking about the laws of God that are in our hearts, I'm talking about the law of Moses (laws of God given to the Israelites through Moses).

In Christian Chat there are a number of law keepers, i.e., people who believe Christians are under the law of Moses. They say that Christians who willfully disregard the law of Moses will not be saved (= will go to hell), but they don't provide us with a list of mitzvot that are to be observed.

This law-keeping theology is very complex and it's advocates shouldn't expect us to be able to put together a list of mitzvot.

If these law keepers feel it's their mission to teach us that we are under the law, they should also feel responsible for providing us with an easy guide on how to keep the law of Moses.

There is only one God my friend, He has already shown you His Commandments. If you are looking for another God’s Instruction I don’t know what to tell you. As I said, maybe you should start with the instruction Jesus created for man.

 

[Hizikyah]

Amen Brother! Would make for a good thread!

I think it is really prevalent in todays society, seems in many so calle places of worship money is the #1 factor is deciding doctrine. Rather sad, however praiseYah for the people and places of worship who speak truth with no agenda on money.

 

[Hizikyah]

Galatians chapter 1

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—7 which is really no gospel at all.


If the "different gospel" was not grace + the law of Moses, what was it then?

Is this considered "different gospel"?

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 14:12-13, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the Commands of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and the Belief of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying to me, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Master from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, in order that they rest from their labors, and their works follow with them.”

or this?

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 6:46, "And why call Me; Ruler! Ruler! and do not the things which I say?"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 4:17, “From that time [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]began to proclaim and to say, “Repent, for the reign of the heavens has drawn near.”
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."[/FONT]
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[MessageOfTheCross]

The Grace of Christ was made possible by what Christ accomplished on the Cross. Anything that is not Faith exclusively in Jesus Christ and the Cross (i.e., The Blood, i.e., The Finished Work) where the victory was won is another Gospel. Paul said, "We preach Christ Crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness" (1 Corinthians 1:23). He also said, "For I determined not to know anything among you, except Jesus Christ, and him Crucified" (1 Corinthians 2:2). But God forbid that I should glory, except in the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world (Galatians 6:14).

The Way Of The Spirit

Focus: The Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:6)
Object Of Faith: The Cross of Christ (Romans 6:1-14)
Power Source: The Holy Spirit (Romans 8:1-2, 11)
Results: Victory (Romans 6:14)


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Man's Way

Focus: Works.
Object Of Faith: Performance.
Power Source: Self.
Results: Defeat!

The only way to God is through Jesus Christ (John 14:6)...the only way to Jesus Christ is by the Means of the Cross (Luke 14:27). The only way to the Cross is a denial of self (Luke 9:23). If any person tries to come any other way, Jesus says, "they are a thief and a robber" (John 10:1).


1. Jesus Christ is the source of all blessings.
2. The Cross is the means by which all blessings are given.
3. The object of our faith must be Christ and the Cross.
4. That being done, the Holy Spirit will greatly help us.
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[mailmandan]

The Grace of Christ was made possible by what Christ accomplished on the Cross. Anything that is not Faith exclusively in Jesus Christ and the Cross (i.e., The Blood, i.e., The Finished Work) where the victory was won is another Gospel. Paul said, "We preach Christ Crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness" (1 Corinthians 1:23). He also said, "For I determined not to know anything among you, except Jesus Christ, and him Crucified" (1 Corinthians 2:2). But God forbid that I should glory, except in the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world (Galatians 6:14).

Amen brother! Christ's finished work of redemption is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed. 1 Corinthians 1:21 - For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

Salvation by "grace plus law, faith plus works" is certainly a "different" gospel which is no good news at all! Either we, by faith, are trusting 100% in Christ's finished work of redemption as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation or else we are 100% lost.

 

[Marcelo]

Who can provide us with a list of mitzvot that apply to Christians?

Short answer: NOBODY.

Why? Because we can’t delete any of the 613 mitzvot.

See Luke 16:17-19: 17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The law of Moses is still there and we can’t remove any jot or tittle from it, but on the other hand we don’t have to fulfill its requirements, even though it seems to be a contradiction.

 

[Studyman]

Who can provide us with a list of mitzvot that apply to Christians?

Short answer: NOBODY.

Why? Because we can’t delete any of the 613 mitzvot.

See Luke 16:17-19: 17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.19Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The law of Moses is still there and we can’t remove any jot or tittle from it, but on the other hand we don’t have to fulfill its requirements, even though it seems to be a contradiction.

It's about a choice. You know God's Instructions, as does most everybody, and if they don't, they all know where to find them. I'm not God so I will not tell you what to do. He is, and His Judgment has been laid out for all to see. The questions is, do we trust Him enough to follow His instructions, or do we find another set of instructions which better suit the lifestyle we have grown accustomed to. Biblical History show the mainstream preachers of their time chose the the latter and it didn't end well for them.