Do we Believe Jesus and/or Obey Jesus?

[Hizikyah]

Can we just believe in Yahshua/Jesus and not obey Him and enter the Kingdom of YHWH?

or

Should we believe and obey Yahshua/Jesus to enter the kingdom of YHWH?

I say believing and obeying Yahshua/Jesus is the narrow path to the kingdom.

John/Yahanan 14:6, "Yahshua proclaimed to him: I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father, except through Me."

John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166 –poimén)."

Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”

John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

*Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"

"listen" is word #8085 - שָׁמַעshama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey

John 14:23-24, "יהושע answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”

Luke 6:46-9, “But why do you call Me ‘Master, Master,’ and do not do what I say? “Everyone who is coming to Me, and is hearing My words and is doing them, I shall show you whom he is like: He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation on the rock. And when a flood came, the stream burst against that house, but was unable to shake it, for it was founded on the rock. But the one hearing and not doing, is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream burst, and immediately it fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:26, “But the Comforter; the Holy Spirit which YHWH will send in My Name will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I (Yahshua/Jesus) have said to you.”[/FONT]

 

[Blain]

If we believe in him then we will naturally obey him, not perfectly obviously but we believe in him and thus believe in what he teaches and his teachings resonate with the hearts of those who believe.

 

[Hizikyah]

If we believe in him then we will naturally obey him, not perfectly obviously but we believe in him and thus believe in what he teaches and his teachings resonate with the hearts of those who believe.

I agree and you siad this very well! May Yah bless you brother Blain!

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 117:2, "For His lovingkindness is great toward us, And the truth of YHWH is everlasting. Praise YHWH!"[/FONT]

 

[Marcelo]

Can we just believe in Yahshua/Jesus and not obey Him and enter the Kingdom of YHWH?

I few weeks ago I found out that my lawyer kept all the money I had won in a lawsuit. When I called him he said he wouldn't send me the money unless I first gave him a receipt. I said: "What? You want me to give you a receipt without having received the money? ... bla bla bla ... bla bla bla ... if you don't send me the money I'll file a complaint against you in the lawyers' licensing board."

I had to threaten my lawyer in order to receive my money. Now let's read Luke 6:30: Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Did I do wrong? What would you have done if you were in my shoes?

 

[Adstar]

Our eternal security is based on us believing The Lord Jesus Christ and Trusting in the Atonement He secured for our salvation..

If we believe The Words of the LORD Jesus Christi we will acknowledge His teachings to be good and true and we should seek to obey His teachings.. But because of our human faults we are unable to obey His teachings without failure..

Therefore anyone who trusts that their eternal security is based partly or solely on their obedience to the message of the LORD Jesus Christ has denied the sufficiency of the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ to save them.. They have relied on their performance in obedience partly or fully and since they cannot obey perfectly they are doomed..

Only the Blood of the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world can wash us clean of all our transgressions.. Try and add your works,, your efforts to that equation is denial of that equation..

 

[Adstar]

I few weeks ago I found out that my lawyer kept all the money I had won in a lawsuit. When I called him he said he wouldn't send me the money unless I first gave him a receipt. I said: "What? You want me to give you a receipt without having received the money? ... bla bla bla ... bla bla bla ... if you don't send me the money I'll file a complaint against you in the lawyers' licensing board."

I had to threaten my lawyer in order to receive my money. Now let's read Luke 6:30: Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Did I do wrong? What would you have done if you were in my shoes?

What do you think about it?
Do you believe you have sinned against the teachings of Jesus?

 

[Marcelo]

What do you think about it?
Do you believe you have sinned against the teachings of Jesus?

No, I did not sin because that teaching was only for the Jews during the dispensation of the Law.

 

[preacher4truth]

I few weeks ago I found out that my lawyer kept all the money I had won in a lawsuit. When I called him he said he wouldn't send me the money unless I first gave him a receipt. I said: "What? You want me to give you a receipt without having received the money? ... bla bla bla ... bla bla bla ... if you don't send me the money I'll file a complaint against you in the lawyers' licensing board."

I had to threaten my lawyer in order to receive my money. Now let's read Luke 6:30: Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Did I do wrong? What would you have done if you were in my shoes?

It appears there is a distinction to be made between taking and withholding. It is unbiblical for a person to withhold from you what is rightly yours. That, IMO, is different than a person removing and taking from you what was in your possession.

 

[Chester]

I few weeks ago I found out that my lawyer kept all the money I had won in a lawsuit. When I called him he said he wouldn't send me the money unless I first gave him a receipt. I said: "What? You want me to give you a receipt without having received the money? ... bla bla bla ... bla bla bla ... if you don't send me the money I'll file a complaint against you in the lawyers' licensing board."

I had to threaten my lawyer in order to receive my money. Now let's read Luke 6:30: Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Did I do wrong? What would you have done if you were in my shoes?

I Corinthians 6:1
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

Maybe you shouldn't have gone to the courts to start with? I don't know the situation - Just asking a question?

 

[Marcelo]

I Corinthians 6:1
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

Maybe you shouldn't have gone to the courts to start with? I don't know the situation - Just asking a question?

6 [FONT=&quot]If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people?[/FONT]

Paul was talking about lawsuits among believers and my case was against my last employer (the company owner was not at all a Christian).

 

[loveme1]

I like what Marcelo proposed.. it is good for us all to consider the matter.

You have been wronged by someone who is in a position of trust or should be.

May the person return your money freely without any upset.

May you find the strength from GOD to overcome this matter.

Thank you for sharing.

i recently had to let go of an amount of money rather than demand it back... minor compared to you. But a reminder from the Lord is always good.

 

[preacher4truth]

The OP has a grave error that needs to be pointed out. There is no person of the Godhead named "Yahshua."

And he knows it.

For a person to take liberty and just change the proper name of God is sacrilege at best, blasphemous at worst, and definitely taking his name in vain.

It is also taking it in vain, imho, that in nearly every thread, nearly every reply the improper name is used inordinately.

 

[Inquistor]

The OP has a grave error that needs to be pointed out. There is no person of the Godhead named "Yahshua."

And he knows it.

For a person to take liberty and just change the proper name of God is sacrilege at best, blasphemous at worst, and definitely taking his name in vain.

It is also taking it in vain, imho, that in nearly every thread, nearly every reply the improper name is used inordinately.

Yahshua - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/yahshua▼
Yahshua is one proposed transliteration of the original Hebrew or Aramaic name of Jesus commonly used by individuals in the Sacred Name Movement. The English spelling Yahshua originates at least as early as 1950 with Angelo Traina' s The New Testament of our Messiah and Saviour Yahshua. The form Yahshua is ...

 

[preacher4truth]

Yahshua - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/yahshua▼
Yahshua is one proposed transliteration of the original Hebrew or Aramaic name of Jesus commonly used by individuals in the Sacred Name Movement. The English spelling Yahshua originates at least as early as 1950 with Angelo Traina' s The New Testament of our Messiah and Saviour Yahshua. The form Yahshua is ...

I'm fully aware of that. His name isn't Yahshua.

 

[Marcelo]

I like what Marcelo proposed.. it is good for us all to consider the matter.

You have been wronged by someone who is in a position of trust or should be.

Thanks, Loveme1, ... and I was not defending my own rights, but the rights of my family.

 

[MarcR]

I few weeks ago I found out that my lawyer kept all the money I had won in a lawsuit. When I called him he said he wouldn't send me the money unless I first gave him a receipt. I said: "What? You want me to give you a receipt without having received the money? ... bla bla bla ... bla bla bla ... if you don't send me the money I'll file a complaint against you in the lawyers' licensing board."

I had to threaten my lawyer in order to receive my money. Now let's read Luke 6:30: Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Did I do wrong? What would you have done if you were in my shoes?

I believe that the passage you quoted deals with how believers should treat one another.

If your lawyer claims to be a believer, you should have probably tried to recover your money through his church's mediation; otherwise you did fine.

 

[Inquistor]

I'm fully aware of that. His name isn't Yahshua.

What was His name in the Hebrew language?

 

[Grandpa]

What does belief in the Lord Jesus Christ really mean?

Does a person really believe in the Lord Jesus Christ if they are still working at their understanding of the law?

Galatians 2:19-21
[FONT=&quot]19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.[/FONT]
21 [FONT=&quot]I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.[/FONT]

2 Peter 3:17-18
[FONT=&quot]17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

Frustrating the Grace of God can't be good. Being led away with the error of the wicked can't be good either. Its time to NOT frustrate the grace of God and instead Grow in Grace and in the Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Colossians 2:2-3
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[FONT=&quot]2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

2 Corinthians 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Can a person believe in Christ but not believe what He says He will do?

Hebrews 4:2-3
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[FONT=&quot]2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.


I wish there was something I could say that would cause people to understand and see. But if the Bible and prayer hasn't already done it then all I can do is offer a differing view from the legalist and judaizer and see what happens. It appears that the error of the wicked is a very old road, probably pretty wide too by now.[/FONT]

 

[NayborBear]

I few weeks ago I found out that my lawyer kept all the money I had won in a lawsuit. When I called him he said he wouldn't send me the money unless I first gave him a receipt. I said: "What? You want me to give you a receipt without having received the money? ... bla bla bla ... bla bla bla ... if you don't send me the money I'll file a complaint against you in the lawyers' licensing board."

I had to threaten my lawyer in order to receive my money. Now let's read Luke 6:30: Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Did I do wrong? What would you have done if you were in my shoes?

What should you have done with that lawyer? This is same verse you quoted. Amplified version, er translation of Luke 18:30 and 31:

[SUP]30 [/SUP]Give away to everyone who begs of you [who is [SUP][r][/SUP]in want of necessities], and of him who takes away from you your goods, do not demand or require them back again.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]And as you would like and desire that men would do to you, do exactly so to them.

Appears to me? Lawyers, may be in want, but not for necessities.