Those who Steal and Those who Lie

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(Leviticus 19:11) ‘You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another.


In your opinion, Which of these two are more dangerous?

A.Those who Steal

B.Those who Lie
 
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(Leviticus 19:11) ‘You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another.


In your opinion, Which of these two are more dangerous?

A.Those who Steal

B.Those who Lie
Which one do you believe is more dangerous, and why?
 

MarcR

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I think that a deception is potentially far more dangerous than a theft. Things stolen if valuable should be insured and can in any case be replaced. A deception can lead to bad choices and lasting harm.
 

Marcelo

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(Leviticus 19:11) ‘You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another.


In your opinion, Which of these two are more dangerous?

A.Those who Steal

B.Those who Lie

It depends on the amount stolen and on the size of the lie.
 
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What if while stealing you lie in the process ;)
 

stonesoffire

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Stealing or lieing, either one is dealing falsely with someone. I see no difference in the acts of sin.
 

Lukwiz

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A. Those who steal (on the contrary you argue saying wealth doesn't matter in this life, the eternal state of your soul does. However true you argue you can die from poverty.)
 

posthuman

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Is lying stealing the truth?
 
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there's an expression in my family I think they got back in the 'old country'

the one who lies steals too

seems true to me
 

posthuman

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Adam & Eve arguably stole, and the Serpent lied.

Love of Mammon is the root of all evil. Interesting...
 

Eromonnis

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(Leviticus 19:11) ‘You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another.
In your opinion, Which of these two are more dangerous?
A.Those who Steal
B.Those who Lie
They are both the same in regards that lying is to steal the truth away from someone.
Generally, lying is worse than stealing when considering what is true. It is deceptive, and deception is what evil does.
Stealing is done secretively so as not to be caught. Lying accommodates theft.
Both are transgressions (sins).
 
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Adam & Eve arguably stole, and the Serpent lied.

Love of Mammon is the root of all evil. Interesting...
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Don't see how you came to that conclusion?
 

posthuman

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Don't see how you came to that conclusion?
Which conclusion?
God had told them not to take, but they took. Theft. Satan said 'you will not surely die' but they did, as God had said. Lies.
 

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The Book of Job states:

14 The murderer rises with the light; He kills the poor and needy;
And in the night he's like a thief (Job 24:14).

39 If I have eaten its fruit without money, or caused its owners to lose their lives;
40 Then let thistles grow instead of wheat, and weeds instead of barley (Job 31:39-40).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions considered murder
to be wrong. Job 24:14 is similar to a teaching by Jesus tieing in murder and thievery together:

10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. (John 10:10).
Job knew of this connection thousands of years before Jesus stated it as recorded by John.
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15 "You shall not steal. (Exodus 20:15)

The Book of Job states:

5 Is not your wickedness great, and your iniquity without end? 6 For you have taken pledges
from your brother for no reason, and stripped the naked of their clothing (Job 22:5-6).

16 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. (Exodus 20:16)


The Book of Job states:

28 I would never lie to your face (Job 6:28).

15:35 They conceive trouble and bring forth futility; Their womb prepares deceit.
24:25 Now if it is not so, who will prove me a liar and make my speech worth nothing?

27:4 My lips will not speak wickedness, nor my tongue utter deceit (Job 27:4).
34:6 Should I lie concerning my right? (Job 34:6).

36:4 For truly my words are not false (Job 36:4).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions
considered 'bearing false witness' to be wrong.
 

Zmouth

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Which conclusion?
God had told them not to take, but they took. Theft. Satan said 'you will not surely die' but they did, as God had said. Lies.
So if someone told you that if believeth him you would never die, would you believe him? :rolleyes:

So if it is written that the LORD God told the man "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in twelve hours that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." What a day isn't twelve hours? so how can a day be a 1000 years if one doesn't believe what is written in the Bible? :confused:

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. Proverbs 3:5
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. Psalsm 118:8

Would you care to reconcile "I shall not die, but live" yet "the living know that they shall die but the dead know not anything"?

And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Gen 3:4-5
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: Gen 3:22

God is the LORD, which hath shewed us light: Ps 118:27
 
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Zmouth

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(Leviticus 19:11) ‘You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another.


In your opinion, Which of these two are more dangerous?

A.Those who Steal

B.Those who Lie
If the LORD told them not to steal or not to lie then if man doth not live by bread alone but by ever word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD then it would appear that either/or they shall die.
 
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