How does G-d fit into us?

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mcubed

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Do we get good good to get G-d, or get G-d to get good? What is wrong with us to begin with? How does G-d fit into us or do we need to fit into Him?
 
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We are born from above spiritually by incorruptable seed through faith and then are transformed by the renewing of the mind and conformed to his image.....in a nut shell that is....this process is a result of daily sanctification in our lives....by faith we are saved, sealed, justified and sanctified in Christ.....
 

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Do we get good good to get G-d, or get G-d to get good? What is wrong with us to begin with? How does G-d fit into us or do we need to fit into Him?
seems a little implausible to fit infinity into a finite container. :)
 

posthuman

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seems a little implausible to fit infinity into a finite container. :)
but then look what God has done!

He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end.
(Ecclesiastes 3:11)
 

Zmouth

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Wow, they KJV translators really got that one wrong didn't they.

He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. Eccl 3:11
 

posthuman

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Wow, they KJV translators really got that one wrong didn't they.

He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. Eccl 3:11
yes, it seems like, really, very weirdly, because as far as i know that particular Hebrew word and its derivatives is pretty common in scripture. an adjective form of it is what is translated "everlasting" all over the OT, instead of "worldly" like you might expect, if the KJV was consistent??

we should ask someone who's actually studied Hebrew. hey Marc? Angela? Old Hermit? help?
 
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Do we get good good to get G-d, or get G-d to get good? What is wrong with us to begin with? How does G-d fit into us or do we need to fit into Him?
Yes good question...seeing that christianity has started out on the wrong foot fitting God into us...a typical carnal/natural action instigated by satan !
That is something people have done with their invented gods from the time they were given free will. But they have not learned YET that this can not be done with the God of ISRAEL....HE will not be manipulated !!! People will either 'bow their knee to HIM or they will die !!!
 

Blain

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If I recall he already fit himself in us I believe he goes by the name holy spirit
 
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La_Vie_En_Rose

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seems a little implausible to fit infinity into a finite container. :)
That’s what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown. The implausibility of an infinite God fitting into a finite container. And His name shall be Immanuel, meaning “God with us”.
 
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La_Vie_En_Rose

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Do we get good good to get G-d, or get G-d to get good? What is wrong with us to begin with? How does G-d fit into us or do we need to fit into Him?
We can never be good enough. This is where the grace and mercy come in- not that there are not unsaved people who are not good. There are many nonChristians morally better than Christians.

My point is, God comes first- then the repentance. I know there are many people who think the other way around.
 

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We can never be good enough. This is where the grace and mercy come in- not that there are not unsaved people who are not good. There are many nonChristians morally better than Christians.

My point is, God comes first- then the repentance. I know there are many people who think the other way around.
I agree with your perspective, unless God is first we would not even be aware that we are in need of repentance.
 
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La_Vie_En_Rose

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I agree with your perspective, unless God is first we would not even be aware that we are in need of repentance.
This is how I believe as well. I get a little weary of people (including myself) of criticizing nonChristians for doing things that are immoral or amoral. There is no desire to repent of sin, or even knowledge of sin without God. This is what I think it means when the Bible says “dead in their sins” while we are quickened.
 

MarcR

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yes, it seems like, really, very weirdly, because as far as i know that particular Hebrew word and its derivatives is pretty common in scripture. an adjective form of it is what is translated "everlasting" all over the OT, instead of "worldly" like you might expect, if the KJV was consistent??

we should ask someone who's actually studied Hebrew. hey Marc? Angela? Old Hermit? help?


He hath made every thing beautiful in his time even to forever; given in their hearts, so that no man can discern the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
 

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If I recall he already fit himself in us I believe he goes by the name holy spirit
Just claiming to have the Holy Spirit or even reading about it is no proof that we have.
As long as one is DISobedient to the WORD he does not dwell in them.
 

notuptome

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Lu 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

We are cleansed and fitted for the Masters use.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Nehemiah6

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Do we get good good to get G-d, or get G-d to get good? What is wrong with us to begin with? How does G-d fit into us or do we need to fit into Him?
"What is wrong with us to begin with?" is that all human beings are born as sinners -- spiritually dead, separated from God, and under condemnation. All human being are "lost" without God and without Christ. The term "fit" is not really appropriate, but "indwelt" is what would be according to Scripture. So when a sinner repents and believes on the Lord Jesus Christ, he or she receives the gift of the Holy Spirit -- which in fact means that the Godhead comes to indwell the believer (who then becomes a saint). So the answers to your questions are in this Scripture:

Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. (1 John 4:15,16).
 

Dan58

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Do we get good good to get G-d, or get G-d to get good? What is wrong with us to begin with? How does G-d fit into us or do we need to fit into Him?
"There is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17).. "We are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags" (Isaiah 64:6). So it would seem we can't "get good" on our own or by ourselves. "The blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin" (1 John 1:7). What's wrong with us is that we are all sinners and disobedient.. Imo, we don't fit into God per se, we simply accept Christ and ask that his Holy Spirit dwells with us.
 

posthuman

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Lu 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

We are cleansed and fitted for the Masters use.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.
Remain in Me, and I will remain in you.

(John 15:3-4)

“Never shall You wash my feet!” Peter told Him.
Jesus answered, “
Unless I wash you, you have no part with Me.
“Then Lord,” Simon Peter replied, “not only my feet, but my hands and my head as well.”
Jesus told him, “
Whoever has already bathed needs only to wash his feet, and he will be completely clean. And you are clean, though not all of you.” For He knew who would betray Him. That is why He said, “Not all of you are clean.
(John 13:8-10)

Purify me with hyssop, and I shall be clean;
Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

(Psalm 51:7)

You shall take a bunch of hyssop and dip it in the blood which is in the basin, and apply some of the blood that is in the basin to the lintel and the two doorposts; and none of you shall go outside the door of his house until morning.
(Exodus 12:22)

Everyone is to stay where they are on the seventh day; no one is to go out.
(Exodus 16:29)


Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commandments is what matters. Each one should remain in the situation he was in when he was called.

(1 Corinthians 7:19-20)




 

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Lu 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

We are cleansed and fitted for the Masters use.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
He who endures to the end the same shall be saved. Have you come to the end yet ? If not you are not yet fit for the Masters use.