God values our free will more than he loves us

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I was thinking and I kind of had a revelation.


I think another reason why things like abuse and rape make me so angry, other than concern the people it happens to, is because I feel like I would lose my faith if that happened to me. I often feel guilty for all the blessings I have, knowing there are millions who don't have the same thing. I know I should feel blessed, but I didn't do a thing to deserve anything I have. No one gets to choose where or when they were born. I could just as easily have been an orphan living on the streets in India.


Plus I know no one gets a free pass in life, which often makes me feel like faith is nothing more than hellfire insurance. The only difference between believers and non-believers is that we know where we're going when we die. As for life here, we're on our own. We have to deal with the same random suffering and problems like everyone else. Christians can be some of the nastiest people, and atheists can be some of the kindest people. I've heard it said you can't live a fulfilled life without God, but I beg to differ. There are atheists living fulfilled lives just as there are Christians who lose hope and commit suicide.


And apparently we shouldn't commit suicide not because human life is so fragile and worth protecting. No, apparently we shouldn't commit suicide because we're trying to upstage God. Yeah. All God cares about in this life is that we work for him. Just get more converts. We work for him like slaves and get relief only when we die. Let's stop trying to deny it and tell the gospel as it really is, just hellfire insurance.


I've also pretty much come to the conclusion that God cares about our free will more than he actually loves us. Love has to override free will in certain cases. God never does that. Women have no say in whether or not they conceive, and they can even have a baby through rape. White men have virtually free reign in our society. Brutal patriarchy still exists in the third world. Africa is still suffering despite the trillions of dollars that have been sent to help them over the decades. The sex trade is still ongoing. Sex used for any purpose other than it's original intent destroys lives, yet God still creates us with those drives. People with inclinations toward being gay are forced to live celibate lives. People like me will never have the status and privileges that married people do simply because we're single. I could go on and on...


But I don't have to to prove my case, that God values our free will more than he actually loves us. Jesus's sacrifice was only so we could be in heaven with him when we die.


But hey. Life isn't fair. Why should I expect God to be?


And don't tell me it's because of sinful people. That's no longer an excuse to me.
Nope. I'm not angry nor have I lost my faith because I was raped.

It seems you're angry all the time though.

And life is beyond fair. We don't deserve life. We deserve separation from God, death, and hell. That God let's us live and enjoy life shows his glorious long-suffering.

So, nope. Might be another of your revelations, but it's just you giving opinion on whatever you feel like again.

I will pray that God will soften your heart and bring you to him.
 

stillness

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#22
You received encouragement and hopefully it's the reason you expressed yourself here: to see differently. "Now we see dimly." This applies to all of us, I see the underlying reason as fear: not of faith. We experience fear more in times of taking things in our hands in relationships. The Lord gives us rest as we learn of Him, "It shall come to pass in the day that the Lord will gives you rest from your sorrow and your fear and the hard bondage wherein you were made to serve." The Lord quoted this to me about 33 years ago, I actually heard in my heart Isaiah 14:3, It's only being fulfilled now, it did not need to take this long, but neither does that mater, as long as I learn to enter His rest.
 

Blain

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History princess let me tell about something that happened to me very early in faith. I was in my bed just being with God when I asked him to take my free will I told him i wanted to be his puppet and I heard a whisper saying I love you far to much to do that. It didn't make sense to me what does letting me screw up and be flawed have to do with him loving me? I then heard him say to me that he treasures a willing child not a controlled one.

Think about it if he took our free will away we would be mindless drones attached to the strings of the great puppet master, we would love him and follow him not because we wanted to but because we had no choice in the matter. If satan could have his way we would have no choice we would either bow down to him and do his every whim or we would experience the worst punishment imaginable and we would have to choose satan no if's and's or butts.

But God allows his children to choose to love him and accept his love he doesn't make us move according to the strings attached to his fingers. It's one thing to make a person love you but only real love can make it where the person chooses to love you