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Kes

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Hi everybody!

I'm Kes and I am stoked to be here.

Ok so I am very new to faith and have just recently started to read the Bible to learn more about God and Jesus and I am really enjoying it so far. However it is not without it's challenges. Because of how I was raised I have little to no knowledge of the Bible and that makes it difficult to wrap my head around some of this stuff. So My hope is I can throw out some questions and get back some answers, here goes!

1) So in John 17:12 it says "...None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that the Scripture would be fulfilled"
Q: Does that means that God allowed Judas to be tempted so that he would betray Jesus? And if thats the case, then isn't that kind of like Judas being sacrificed? Why would he do that? and What would have happened if Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus? Would there have been no crucifixion?

2) If God knows that humans all have wicked hearts but He loves us anyway, then why would he allow hell to exist or allow people to end up there?

3)What was the significance of Peter denying he knew Jesus? Why did he do it? And why did Jesus predict it?

Thank you in advance for all your help!
 

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Hello Kes, welcome to Christian Chat :) I hope you enjoy your time with us!



God knows the end from the beginning. Jesus knew all along that Judas did not have faith, was "unclean", and would betray Him. It was for those reasons that Judas was doomed to destruction, as are any who reject the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross through the shedding of His righteous blood to pay the sin debt, due to His great and everlasting love for us.
 

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What would have happened if Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus? Would there have been no crucifixion?
The world would be without these events and therefore would be much worse. But God wants everything to be best.

2) If God knows that humans all have wicked hearts but He loves us anyway, then why would he allow hell to exist or allow people to end up there?
God hates evil and wicked hearts and so He must destroy such evil in the end.

3)What was the significance of Peter denying he knew Jesus? Why did he do it? And why did Jesus predict it?
For me, its one of proofs of Christ's resurrection. If apostles were so fearful before His resurrection and then changed so much that Peter asked to be crucified upside down, something had to change them drastically.

Thats why I think God allowed this evidence of apostles' behavior to be recorded.
 
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Hi everybody!

I'm Kes and I am stoked to be here.

Ok so I am very new to faith and have just recently started to read the Bible to learn more about God and Jesus and I am really enjoying it so far. However it is not without it's challenges. Because of how I was raised I have little to no knowledge of the Bible and that makes it difficult to wrap my head around some of this stuff. So My hope is I can throw out some questions and get back some answers, here goes!

1) So in John 17:12 it says "...None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that the Scripture would be fulfilled"
Q: Does that means that God allowed Judas to be tempted so that he would betray Jesus? And if thats the case, then isn't that kind of like Judas being sacrificed? Why would he do that? and What would have happened if Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus? Would there have been no crucifixion?

2) If God knows that humans all have wicked hearts but He loves us anyway, then why would he allow hell to exist or allow people to end up there?

3)What was the significance of Peter denying he knew Jesus? Why did he do it? And why did Jesus predict it?

Thank you in advance for all your help!
Welcome here you can discuss with bible smart people and possibly make new friends,hope you like it here!
 

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Your way ahead of yourself.
Relax.
Get a readable New Testament like the 1960s Good News Bible
and start reading.
The four Gospels will inform you much of who and what Jesus is about
along with the why of it all.

One step at a time.
And start learning to pray. Talk to Jesus as your helper and guide.

(ASV) Hast thou found honey? eat so much as is sufficient for thee, Lest thou be filled
therewith, and vomit it.
(GW) When you find honey, eat only as much as you need. Otherwise,
you will have too much and vomit.
Proverbs 25:16
 

JaumeJ

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In direct response to your title.

I am old and I have questions.
 

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You're asking mysteries not questions; Apparently the enemy has the right to tempt us so that the kingdom that God is building can't be shaken. Judas was deceived to value his life as a thief, the whole time apparently, taking money from the money bag that he was in charge of likely a self promotion. The Lord told us: Whoever seeks to save his life in this world will Lose it and whoever loses his live for Him and His message will save it. This doesn't apply just to Judas but he was made an example: Going back to our old life is betraying the Lord, rejecting the Holy Spirit, "Without Love I am nothing." How could God save nothing, when we reject Him. I'm afraid this answers your other question, but you should know that hell not eternal, (Revelation 20:13) there is a second death after that, and don't let Christians tell you what happens in the final judgment because they don't, except for what is written, "Everyone will be judged according to his works." For as much as you have done it to the least of these my brethren you have done it to me." As Christians we are apparently not judged according to our works but I could be wrong.
"Lean not on your own understanding but trust in the Lord."
Peter needed to figure out that he was overconfident and that without the Holy Spirit we cant suffer with Christ. The rest of the disciples abandoned him as well and Jesus had told them, that's when Peter piped up and had to learn the hard way.
 

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Hi everybody! I'm Kes and I am stoked to be here.
Hi Kes, and Welcome!
Q: Does that means that God allowed Judas to be tempted so that he would betray Jesus?
God allows all Christians to be tempted, but they do not have to succumb to the temptation. So Judas could also have resisted the temptation to betray Christ (although he was not really a disciple but pretended to be one).
And if thats the case, then isn't that kind of like Judas being sacrificed? Why would he do that? and What would have happened if Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus? Would there have been no crucifixion?
Correct. The Lord knew in advance that Judas would betray Him, and that was a part of the plan of salvation.

2) If God knows that humans all have wicked hearts but He loves us anyway, then why would he allow hell to exist or allow people to end up there?
Hell was created for the Devil and his angels, and people who end up in Hell do so because they will not receive Christ as Lord and Savior.
3)What was the significance of Peter denying he knew Jesus? Why did he do it? And why did Jesus predict it?
Peter needed to learn a lesson, and he denied Christ because he feared for himself. But the Lord already knew this would happen and that eventually Peter would be restored.
 
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TO : Kes

Given the nature of open Bible forums. And that you're new to the faith .
ill say this before i attempt to help with some of your questions .
You'll find some disagreement among Christians about much of the Bible. And that is why its important for you yourself to read and study the Bible .
Because Not reading for yourself creates divisions among believers; which is frowned upon by the Bibles teachings .

That being said . With my general grasp of the Bible and With my limited recall of scriptures , ill try to help with some direction to the questions you've brought up

1) So in John 17:12


The Son of Perdition is a title of an individual Its important to know that . Perish means to die . The title and the individual that holds such a title is counter to
Christ which is the only begotton Son of God : sent to earth to bring eternal life.


The Son of perdition is one of Satans titles. Ezekiel 28 explains there Satans death sentence is pronounced there. But its not yet been carried out ( turn to ashes from within ) Satan having many rolls or titles hes uses or takes on himself, king and prince Tyrus being on, in that prophecy in that chapter; being about Satan .

The word Son, in the title Son of Perdition can be confusing if not familiar with the Bibles teachings about the angels which are called ( sons of God in the OT ) which left their first habitation ( Genesis 6 ) The Letter of Jude explains they're reserved for destruction .

Satan being chief among them, the Bible explains the controversy in the world, is between God and Satan .

The purpose of Jesus was to offer eternal life to people. But at the same time His death on the cross is meant to bring about the death of Satan himself, in the lake of Fire. Many conflate the hand Satan had in Christ's death , with the use of Judas in betraying Christ to the Roman authorities by the fake Jews , which was predetermined to happen according to OT prophecy .

Hebrews 2:14 explains Christ came to the earth to die on the cross, that would result in Satan being put to death in the lake of fire. aka by many as hell .

You'll eventually read it was Satan that entered Judas .This was not a literary device, nor spiritual saying, it was one of Satans constant attempts to thwart Christ's mission on earth . Prophetically speaking God will use Satan, as prophecy in NT explains . 2 Thessalonians 2 kjv. for example the same title is there, concerning him in his future role as Anti-Christ, or prophet ; the second beast of Revelation 13 etc .

So according to the Bible, what "" none lost "" means ( John 17:12 ) is in reference to the Elect and those who have free will. No one has actually been killed, in the lake of fire, aka generally known ( inaccurately ) as hell .
And no one has been by name, sentenced to the lake of fire , determined beforehand to perish : Except the Son of perdition, Satan . You eventually read Judas repented, when he returned the money . Plus, its not for us to Judge such things . But understand its not his title .

The Elect gets into a lot that you'll just have to study on your own . its beyond my ability to condense here .

I know you've heard people say you're going to hell all the time . So what gives ?
Many throw around the world hell very flippantly.

But the bible is precise in its use and teachings about what is hell .
The end of the book of Revelation explains Judgement day is for a time yet appointed. When a believer or non believer dies, there is an initial Judgment of Christ, which He explained, determines the state of their soul in paradise. The hell they experience there, is one of their own making when faced with reality and the memories of their past choices ..

Paul explains 2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Illustrated by Christ in parable ( Lazarus and the Rich man ) with a divide between those found with Eternal life , and the lost which are liable to die on Judgment Day . Revelation 20:11-15.

The Lake of fire, not coming into being until at the end . You'll have to do a Greek and Hebrew word study for the uses of hell, and like words ; in those languages, and how they were translated into English to avoid disconnect with what the Bible teaches about this .


Q: About why Judas was used, I can only speculate .Because given the teachings of the Elect, and Pauls explaining they were chosen before this age began , or ever they came to earth. A lot of this would be speculative. But its written in prophecy it was to go down like it did . All the people, were placed where they need to be .

Christ speaking here :
Luke 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Act 1:16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.

Psalms 41:9 Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.

Jesus speaking :

John 13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
19 Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he.


I think its hard to understand what happens in the world. But this word is a means to an end . Its getting us to the eternity with God, and its sifting out those who rather not be part of it .When it comes to Judas, i like to just say God is Judge .



2) Q The bible talks about a time when God will wipe away all tears from people , no more pain Just peace .
Love Joy. Truth etc.

And being that God cannot force people to love Him. People Ultimately on their own, have to decide if they want to be part of that . Earth without that currently, is a prelude of what it would be like for an entirety void of Gods blessings and presence. . God will not bless those that hate Him. So the lake of fire is meant to blot out, or destroy from existence, anyone that wont straight up.

I've come to view it this way. If an intruder enters your home, in an attempt to Harm those who love you, and those you love. What would you do ? Lets pose this another way, if you had your dream spouse , and he or she loves you a lot . You would cherish that love. If a new man or woman steps in and disrupts that, you'd rightly be upset, and fight for that love . Especially if you have a contract with the future . Settling down, starting a family, etc That all goes away, when that love is questioned by an outside influence .If people wish to follow Satan to hell thats there choice at the end of the Lords Day ( Revelation 20 ) .

God intends to end the threat permanently . This time is a way to pull as many of our brothers and sisters out of that fire, before we get to that end .


3)What was the significance of Peter denying he knew Jesus? Why did he do it? And why did Jesus predict it?


Yes Christ did say he would do it before the fact .

Christ speaking .

Matthew 26:33 Peter answered and said unto him, Though all men shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.
34 Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.
35 Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples.


Just to clarify the reading a bit .

thrice: i.e. three denials and a cock-crow; then three more and a second cock-crow; not three cock-crows.
This prophecy was uttered three times: (1) John 13:38, relating to fact, not to time; (2) Luke 22:34,
in the supper room; (3) and last, Matthew 26:34 (Mark 14:30), on the Mount of Olives. etc etc






Hope that helped !
 
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OtherWay210

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I forgot to respond to this one

3)What was the significance of Peter denying he knew Jesus?


I believe about that ; like Job and the suffering he went through at the hand of Satan .
Much of the bible those things are our examples to learn by, we learn by others experiences, so we do not repeat their mistakes . Christ knowing before hand, i have to believe it was done for our admonishment, not to fall into the same traps they did .



1 Corinthians 10:11-15King James Version (KJV)

11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
15 I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.





Luke 22:60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.
62 And Peter went out, and wept bitterly.


 
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p_rehbein

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Much of this (sadly) sounds familiar. Even the Thread Title.

However, trying to remain optimistic, let me say that given that you were JUST saved in the 2nd Week of December, to be asking about such deeply Theological matters right off is quite remarkable..............

Most newly saved are usually interested in learning about Heaven, Gifts of the Spirit, the meaning of Water Baptism, Communion and other common points of Scripture.

The last two questions (sadly) are questions pretty much out of the Troll Handbook of Questions to post on a Christian Website. Which, makes me less optimistic.......HOWEVER, I can hold out hope
 
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OtherWay210

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p_rehbein Well , it makes us mature, and hone our skills answering questions. For some like myself, it forces me into Bible study .
when the time comes there is fertile ground it would have been worth the time .
Not all the ground is stony . Someone else can benefit . When that time comes, you'll have a better response and for someone who is genuinely seeking .
 

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1) So in John 17:12 it says "...None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that the Scripture would be fulfilled"
Q: Does that means that God allowed Judas to be tempted so that he would betray Jesus? And if thats the case, then isn't that kind of like Judas being sacrificed? Why would he do that? and What would have happened if Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus? Would there have been no crucifixion?
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. Matt 12:50

From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Matt 16:21

2) If God knows that humans all have wicked hearts but He loves us anyway, then why would he allow hell to exist or allow people to end up there?
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8

He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44

3)What was the significance of Peter denying he knew Jesus? Why did he do it? And why did Jesus predict it?
He was charged.
 
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Hi everybody!

I'm Kes and I am stoked to be here.

Ok so I am very new to faith and have just recently started to read the Bible to learn more about God and Jesus and I am really enjoying it so far. However it is not without it's challenges. Because of how I was raised I have little to no knowledge of the Bible and that makes it difficult to wrap my head around some of this stuff. So My hope is I can throw out some questions and get back some answers, here goes!

1) So in John 17:12 it says "...None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that the Scripture would be fulfilled"
Q: Does that means that God allowed Judas to be tempted so that he would betray Jesus? And if thats the case, then isn't that kind of like Judas being sacrificed? Why would he do that? and What would have happened if Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus? Would there have been no crucifixion?

2) If God knows that humans all have wicked hearts but He loves us anyway, then why would he allow hell to exist or allow people to end up there?

3)What was the significance of Peter denying he knew Jesus? Why did he do it? And why did Jesus predict it?

Thank you in advance for all your help!


Be VERY CAREFUL about referring to "the bible" ... because MANY versions of "the bible" have been CORRUPTED to comply with certain beliefs and/or DISbeliefs!


Here is a one-click LINK to prove my point! What will be displayed is THE EXACT SAME VERSE across numerous "bible versions!"


1 John 5:7 For there are three that testify:
 
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Once created, we can never die. Our flesh will die but the soul and spirit live forever. There are some so evil and irredeemable that there has to be a place where God confines them. God's kingdom is for those who accept him as Lord. If you deny him, he will also deny you (Matt.10:33). If you deny the son, you also deny the Father (1 John 2:23). But I don't believe that all souls are lost forever. Jesus gave Peter the chance to repent (John 21:15-17).
Our Lord Jesus has the keys of hell and of death (Rev.1:18).
"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison (1 Pet.3:18-19)".
"For this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit (1Pet. 4:6)".
All are given a chance to accept Jesus Christ as Lord. Judas was drawn away by money. Even though he followed Jesus and heard him and witnessed all that Jesus did, he couldn't overcome his greed. Jesus knew that from the beginning but Judas was chosen so that all that was written in the Word of God would be fulfilled (John 17:12). Judas sold him for 30 pieces of silver (Matt. 27:9, Zech. 11:12-13) which was the price of a slave. Judas knew Jesus, heard him, and watched all that he did and then sold him. That was the ultimate denial. He chose mammon.
 
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Hi everybody!

I'm Kes and I am stoked to be here.

Ok so I am very new to faith and have just recently started to read the Bible to learn more about God and Jesus and I am really enjoying it so far. However it is not without it's challenges. Because of how I was raised I have little to no knowledge of the Bible and that makes it difficult to wrap my head around some of this stuff. So My hope is I can throw out some questions and get back some answers, here goes!

1) So in John 17:12 it says "...None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that the Scripture would be fulfilled"
Q: Does that means that God allowed Judas to be tempted so that he would betray Jesus? And if thats the case, then isn't that kind of like Judas being sacrificed? Why would he do that? and What would have happened if Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus? Would there have been no crucifixion?

2) If God knows that humans all have wicked hearts but He loves us anyway, then why would he allow hell to exist or allow people to end up there?

3)What was the significance of Peter denying he knew Jesus? Why did he do it? And why did Jesus predict it?

Thank you in advance for all your help!
First, welcome to the family of the Lord.

Second, welcome to CC.

That said, I have some bad news for you. If you ask even the simplest question on this particular forum, what will come are people who will immediately want to gather you into their very-special belief system. It's not always Christian, even if it sounds like it ought to be. And then you'll get a lot of people arguing over whatever. (We like to argue. What can I say? lol)

This is going to confuse you to no end.

But, on the good side of this, you did pick up a good book out of the Bible to read. Gospel of John has most of what we need to know about Jesus covered.

That said, since you're here, you already caught on to a need to learn and a need to fellowship. I bet you don't have a church to belong to yet. That's okay, because the Gospel of John can provide that for you too, if you do this a better way.

As you read it, write down all your questions. Just keep writing them where ever it is you keep your notes. (I'm old, so I actually used pen and paper. Rumor has it not-old people use phones and tablets now. Just rumor. I can neither confirm nor deny. lol) And then, when you're done, find the Yellow Pages. (My generation actually got out a phone book. Nowadays it's online.) Go to the section for churches in your area. Skip the ones that aren't necessarily Christian, (Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormon's, Catholic -- and yeah, I'll catch some flack over the Catholic one, but I was raised Catholic so did this with priest and they were absolutely useless, so just don't bother wasting your time -- etc.), and go to the ones that are really Christian.

Call one. Ask if you can meet with someone to ask your questions. Most won't have a clue what to do with you asking such a silly question, but that's okay. That's what this is about -- finding a church that does want to teach its people about the Lord. So, if they can't help you, feel free to politely thank them for their time, and then call the next church. Keep going until you find one that will take the time to answer all your questions.

Then get all your questions answered.

And then join that church, because it's a good choice for a church, a place for you to grown, and a place to meet other believers. Do understand everyone going to a church aren't believers. Some just think they are, but the Lord will get you to know who is and who isn't to be trusted. And who to make friends with and then fellowship with.

Sure beats getting 20 people on here trying to persuade you to their beliefs. And, since you're new, it sure resolves the arguing you'll see that will make you scratch your head thinking you never got a good answer. (BTW, I am also sure you'll get a good and right answer. We do that too, but then others will argue, and you being new, how would you know the right answer?)

This does not mean CC serves no purpose. It does. We do fellowship and help people here, (on occasion.) But when you're brand new? You really want to get a solid foundation, not 20,000 different versions of Christ. (Some exaggeration, just because I'm like that. lol) And we can be enjoyable, once we aren't trying hard to prove we alone know all answers.
 
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God knew what Judas would fo before he cast down the world and was able to prophesy about Judas in the O.T. and it came to pass in the N.T. Judas is called a devil from the beginning, the Son of Perdition and a thief that held the bag....He was lost, never saved and paid the price....yea is paying the price.
 

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Hi everybody!

I'm Kes and I am stoked to be here.

Ok so I am very new to faith and have just recently started to read the Bible to learn more about God and Jesus and I am really enjoying it so far. However it is not without it's challenges. Because of how I was raised I have little to no knowledge of the Bible and that makes it difficult to wrap my head around some of this stuff. So My hope is I can throw out some questions and get back some answers, here goes!

1) So in John 17:12 it says "...None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that the Scripture would be fulfilled"
Q: Does that means that God allowed Judas to be tempted so that he would betray Jesus? And if thats the case, then isn't that kind of like Judas being sacrificed? Why would he do that? and What would have happened if Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus? Would there have been no crucifixion?

2) If God knows that humans all have wicked hearts but He loves us anyway, then why would he allow hell to exist or allow people to end up there?

3)What was the significance of Peter denying he knew Jesus? Why did he do it? And why did Jesus predict it?

Thank you in advance for all your help!
First question, Judas did it because he is a sinner and the Bible says that sinners hate Jesus in John 3:19-20

“And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.”

Jesus is the light, if Judas would not have done it the Father could of chose someone else to do it there are plenty of sinners that hated Jesus in that time and in ours that would do exactly what Judas did, not hard to find a son of destruction, so yes there would of still been a crucifixion because it was the Fathers definte plan and foreknowledge that Jesus was crucified. Acts 2:23

“this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men.”

God loved the world in the giving of His only Son, John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” or as the ESV footnote translates it,
“For this is how God loved the world,”
God's deminstrated His love to the world is in the next part of John 3:16“that He gave His only Son,” Here is how He shows His love for the Church or His people Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”

While we His people were still sinners Jesus died for us, it does not say the world, also notice the third part of John 3:16 “that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” It is only those that believe that receive the benifits of Christ dying and Paul tells us in Romans 5:8 that Christ died for us/the Church or God's people and that is how God demonstrates toward us His people. His love was demonstrated to the world was by giving His only Son, He demonstrated His love toward us/His people by Christ dying for us, not the would and Paul give us a better ubderstanding in Tius 2:14

“who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.”

Not only did He give Himself for us, He is also purifying us so we can be His people. Hell is for all those that do not believe and they send themselves there because they will not believe, going back to John 3:18-20

“Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.”

People that do not believe are condemned already, God does not need to judge them to hell because they are condemned to hell already. Here's something to think about, if a person does not want to be with God while they are alive what makes anyone think that they would want to be with Him in death? So God is giving them what they want, in life no God and in death no God, exactly what they want. There is something else that needs to be brought out here, God is love yes, He is also holy, righteous and just. With that said He has to punish people that do not obey His holy standard the 10 Commandments, they are what He will judge the world by, Romans 3:19-20

“Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God.20 For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.”

The 10 Commandments bring the knowledge of sin, as well as the standard that the world will be judged by.


Question number three takes lots of information to understand, but I will try to make it short. When Jesus taught about how He would suffer to atone for our sins, He taught that He would be delivered into the hands of evil men that they would mock, beat, flog, condemn to death, crucify Him and on the third day or after three days He would rise from the died. Mark 10:33-34

“saying, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered over to the chief priests and the scribes, and they will condemn him to death and deliver him over to the Gentiles.34 And they will mock him and spit on him, and flog him and kill him. And after three days he will rise.”

We know that on the first day of the week around 6 A.M. that morning the women came to the Tomb to discover that it was empty, it happened before they got there. Jesus taught that these things would happen in a 72 hour period or three days and three nights, if He meant partial days He would of said 3 days only, but He made it clear in Matthew 12:40

“For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

The time Peter denied Christ for the third time it mark the Romans last watch which is 3 A.M. and we see that what Jesus taught in Mark 10:33-34 starts, Luke 22:54, 59-65

“Then they seized him and led him away, bringing him into the high priest's house, and Peter was following at a distance….59 And after an interval of about an hour still another insisted, saying, “Certainly this man also was with him, for he too is a Galilean.”60 But Peter said, “Man, I do not know what you are talking about.” And immediately, while he was still speaking, the rooster crowed.61 And the Lord turned and looked at Peter. And Peter remembered the saying of the Lord, how he had said to him, “Before the rooster crows today, you will deny me three times.”62 And he went out and wept bitterly.

63 Now the men who were holding Jesus in custody were mocking him as they beat him.64 They also blindfolded him and kept asking him, “Prophesy! Who is it that struck you?”65 And they said many other things against him, blaspheming him.”

This marked the beginning ot the atoning work of Christ for our sins, which is around 3 A.M. this happened on a Thursday morning with Him rising on the first day of the week between 3 A.M. and 6 A.M. making the atoning work of Christ being a full 72 hours or 3 days and 3 nights.

If you study the Sabbath that they were worried about the bodies being on the cross, it was the yearly Sabbath of the Unleavened Bread Feast, not the weekly Sabbath because it was a high day. It is the Sabbath or holy convocation in Leviticus 23:4-8

“These are the appointed feasts of the Lord, the holy convocations, which you shall proclaim at the time appointed for them.5 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at twilight, is the Lord's Passover.6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; for seven days you shall eat unleavened bread.7 On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall not do any ordinary work.8 But you shall present a food offering to the Lord for seven days. On the seventh day is a holy convocation; you shall not do any ordinary work.”