If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.

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trofimus

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"If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles."
Mt 5:41

Do you have some background info, what is this about?

I have never experienced anyone forcing me to go with him. Is it something related to ancient times?

I can imagine a friend wanting me to go with him somewhere, but I do not think this is the context.
 
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"If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles."
Mt 5:41

Do you have some background info, what is this about?

I have never experienced anyone forcing me to go with him. Is it something related to ancient times?

I can imagine a friend wanting me to go with him, but I do not think this is the context.
Yes, I think I wrote quite a bit about this here around a month ago.

http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/161249-do-you-understand-nonviolence.html#post3382394
 
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Hizikyah

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I have heard this was a particular saying of the time, I can not remember exactly what tho. But I think at minimum it means to be patient and if someone is headed in the same direcrtion (Yahshua/Jesus) then take as much time as needed to reach the goal.
 

BillG

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The following is my understanding of it and surmise of it.


It's a bit long.



Matthew 5:38-42



38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.


Tonight's command is a term that we have probably heard as "Go the extra mile"


As you can see above the preceding verses Jesus talks about an eye for an eye, then goes on to say "if someone slaps you on your cheek let him slap the other cheek, if someone wants to sue you for some of your possessions give them all you have.


I'm not sure if you know but in v38 Jesus is referring to an Old Testament Law known as the Law of
Lex Talionis or in today's speak the Law of retaliation, basically this law covered what type of punishment should be meted out to transgressors. It limited the retribution that an offender would have to endure. Basically the punishment was dependent upon the intent of the transgression.


Then we find in v39-40 Jesus saying if someone is evil enough that he wants to slap you on the face let them do it again, if an evil person wants your shirt, hey let him have your coat as well.


To me it is obvious that if Jesus is referring to an evil person then it is obvious that their intent is to harm you. If we only read his words then to me it seems like Jesus is saying "Roll over and be a door mat, be a punch bag and don't retaliate"


I have to say that I don't think that Jesus is saying roll over and be a punch bag.
We need to remember that what Jesus related to those around him in a way that they would have understood, the culture, the religion of Judaism and the law of the land.


As I said above the Law of Retaliation was used to determine what punishment was appropriate for any harm done and to ensure it was fair. So there was a deterrent in place, that protected the abused from further abuse and the abuser from being accused falsely. Rome had laws in place to ensure civil rights as well.


Today we have laws in the land which ensure civil rights as well, the right to be protected. When we are in a situation that we are being continually harmed we have a right to say no and if need be take further action, either by reporting it or walking away from that situation.




Now to the command which I will try to put into its context.


Jesus lived in a time of Roman occupation. The Roman Empire was vast, it covered 1,061,781 sq miles. Now in those days there were no planes, trains and automobiles. How on earth could they have have gotten so big? There is a way that they could do it and this is where v41 comes in, and the audience would have fully been aware of this.


There was a law in place that allowed the Roman Soldiers to commandeer any civilian to carry their battle fatigues for one mile (remember that the Romans commandeered Simon of Cyrene to carry Jesus's cross) when they had carried it for mile then they could commandeer another civilian to do the next mile. This way the soldiers were not fatigued and would be ready for battle.


To the audience, the Jews this would have been horrific, imagine the thoughts "Hey we hate the Romans, you claim to be the Messiah (and those he was speaking to were expecting the Messiah to release them from the Roman rule they were under) and yet your asking us to go another mile, man your crazy, your asking us to help the Romans"


The Roman soldier was not a respecter of religion, he had a job to do and if you didn't help him then basically your signing your death warrant because he himself would be punished for not getting his job done, but what if he commandeered you on the Sabbath? The Jews were told to rest from work on the Sabbath and if you did not it was an issue to them. Also the person commandeered may have been going about their own business but would be expected to drop what they were doing, walk one mile with the soldier and then walk back that mile to carry on what they were doing.


So why would Jesus ask them to go the extra mile when it could violate the Law that God gave?


Firstly let's remember that Jesus said that he had come to fulfil the law as God originally intended.
Jesus came to Israel and told them repent for the kingdom of God had come, I am the way, the truth, the only work that God requires is that you believe in the one whom he sent and that is me.


Jesus made it quite clear that he was sent by God to reconcile all men to him, so that whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.


I said earlier that I believe that this command is Jesus revealing that there is an opportunity here and I would like to explain it as follows. Thought I would do it with a Roman soldier and a Jewish male of the time. Then I'm going to look at it with those that believed. I won't do it grammatically as it could look messy. RS = Roman Soldier, NB = Non Believer CB = Christ Believer.


RS - Hey you, come over here. Now I want you to carry my stuff here for a mile.
NB- Sorry but I'm a Jew and as it's the Sabbath I can't work today, (does not have to be the Sabbath but it could be that they were doing something else)
RS - I don't care for your religion, I have a job to do and if don't do it then I'm in trouble and your breaking the law for which the penalty is death. I'm in trouble but your dead.




RS - Hey you come over here. Now I want you to carry my stuff here for a mile.
CB - Ok.
RS - Right that's your mile done you can go now.
CB - That's ok I don't mind carrying on for another mile.
RS - Why would you want to do that? I've burdened you per the requirement of the law.
CB - I'm not under the law, Jesus fulfilled the law, and gave me a new one.
RS - Who is this Jesus? What law you taking about?
CB - Jesus is the God in the flesh, I believe in him, he came to save you and me. Jesus asked me
to be like him, show you what God is really like, he loves you and has asked me to love you.
So by actions, thoughts and deeds I'm following Jesus's law which is to love you a much as
he loves me.


When we walk in that way the person who wants to slap your cheek and you offer them the other cheek may not want to slap but kiss it, when you offer your shirt they may say no, let me give you mine. It's an opportunity but unless we give them that opportunity we may never know.


What opportunities may arise? They will be different for all of us. God has given us different people both Christian and non Christian, the fact his he has called us to be like Jesus. We are his representatives to those he has given us.
 

OneFaith

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It was common in those days that a soldier could have you carry his items for one mile. This is why a man was told to carry Jesus’ cross.

This is where the saying “Go the extra mile.” comes from.
 
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"If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles."
Mt 5:41

Do you have some background info, what is this about?

I have never experienced anyone forcing me to go with him. Is it something related to ancient times?

I can imagine a friend wanting me to go with him somewhere, but I do not think this is the context.
I consider it in reference to slavery/servitude.

If your master tells you to harvest haft the wheat field by sundown try for as much as possible, instead of merely what was ordered.

Or, to bring it up to date, if your boss wants the report on her desk by 9, try for the afternoon before.
 

maxwel

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Dilemma


So, if I meet a nice christian girl...
and she lives 1/4 mile from a nice restaurant...

can I force her to go to dinner with me 4 or 8 times?
 

BillG

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Dilemma


So, if I meet a nice christian girl...
and she lives 1/4 mile from a nice restaurant...

can I force her to go to dinner with me 4 or 8 times?
Being the nice Christian man that you are, you won't have to force her.
 

Magenta

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Dilemma

So, if I meet a nice christian girl...
and she lives 1/4 mile from a nice restaurant...

can I force her to go to dinner with me 4 or 8 times?
Perhaps only three :)

The first time would be half a mile, there and back. Twice more would be the extra mile :p
 
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Dilemma


So, if I meet a nice christian girl...
and she lives 1/4 mile from a nice restaurant...

can I force her to go to dinner with me 4 or 8 times?
I know a guy who did something like that. I think he gets out in like 2072 or something. :D
 
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Whenever a Christian brings in mans opinion, human wisdom, and the worlds view point they have sinned. This sin is called the lust of the flesh (Gal. 5:4). The flesh is not the physical flesh, but your mindset. This is why it is very important for Christians to renew their minds daily. Christians must pick up their own cross daily and become a living sacrifice by denying their flesh (mindset) daily. This is why denying yourself hurts because you will not allow yourself to say, believe, or agree with mans opinion, human wisdom, and the worlds view point. In other words you only agree, say, and believe what the written word (truth) of God has said. The living word (Lord Jesus Christ) will fill in the blanks. And when the written Word and the living Word connect...oh my, my, my! When a Christian is being led by the flesh they are 100% being deceived by Satan and his forces. The bible says this is witchcraft because the flesh is in rebellion with God. Our kingdom is not of this world. No matter what man says and how things may change, we only say and agree with the word of God.

Beloved, God has called us to go the second mile. The first mile is where everybody is. The second mile is going to require a press, stamina, and what the Lord has said. The first mile is a eye for a eye, tooth for a tooth...the second mile is love your enemies. The first mile - The only way to God is through Jesus Christ (John 14:6)[salvation]...The second mile...the only way to Jesus Christ is by the Means of the Cross (Luke 14:27). The only way to the Cross is a denial of self (Luke 9:23)[sanctification]. Are you in the second mile?


But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Matthew 7:14 NIV
 
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Gal. 2:21 - I DON'T FRUSTRATE THE GRACE OF GOD
 
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Nehemiah6

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I have never experienced anyone forcing me to go with him. Is it something related to ancient times?
This saying of Christ should be taken as a broad Christian principle, not merely about someone forcing you to go a mile. What it means is that we are to always do much more than is expected of us, whether in the home, at work, in church, or wherever. It means that Christians are to offer themselves and their service far above the demands of duty.

Let's take the example of the workplace. Too many employees are content to do the minimum required and take lengthy breaks. On the other hand the Christian must work not merely to please his employer, but to provide excellence of work ethic and service, and add even more than expected (as though serving the Lord). The employer will notice that the Christian does not have to be monitored because he monitors himself and gives far more than he is paid to do or what is expected.
 

trofimus

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This saying of Christ should be taken as a broad Christian principle, not merely about someone forcing you to go a mile. What it means is that we are to always do much more than is expected of us, whether in the home, at work, in church, or wherever. It means that Christians are to offer themselves and their service far above the demands of duty.

Let's take the example of the workplace. Too many employees are content to do the minimum required and take lengthy breaks. On the other hand the Christian must work not merely to please his employer, but to provide excellence of work ethic and service, and add even more than expected (as though serving the Lord). The employer will notice that the Christian does not have to be monitored because he monitors himself and gives far more than he is paid to do or what is expected.
OK, but that would make our life very exhausting and quite in the opposite of "do not get yourselves involved into wordly affairs" and similar.