Is the Body of Christ under the OT law tithe requirements?

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FlyingDove

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Tithe info OT
The tithe (under the Mosaic law) wasn't money according to Leviticus 27:30; it being the fruit of the tree, seed of the ground and the 10th animal to pass under the rod. Other passages such as Malachi 3:10 "that there might be food in my house," also confirm that the tithe was fruit, seed & animals, not money.

People paid three tithes of a tenth each, not one. The Levitical tithe (Numbers 18:19-20), the festival tithe (Deuteronomy 14:22-17), and the poor tithe, every 3rd year (Deuteronomy 14:28-29). So if your religon regard's itself as being under the Biblical command to pay tithes, then preach three tithes not simply one!

No one paid a tithe on money. The tithe was a tax on only agricultural produce. Example: A fisherman paid nothing on his catch. Tradesmen, cobblers, who made the shoes did not tithe. Carpenters, potters, the women, who made the soldiers garments, the servants who worked in the fields for wages, did not tithe.

The tithe was exclusively a tax on the produce on the land of Israel, so if you don't live within the Promised land (Israel), then you were forbidden from tithing (Deuteronomy 6:1-3). Numbers 18:21 clearly states; “all the tithes in Israel,” so tithes were only paid on people’s increase (Deuteronomy 14:22), on their agricultural products (Leviticus 27:30), within the land of Israel (and not outside of Israel).

The first of these tithes, the Levitical tithe, was payable only to the Levite tribe of Israel, (Nehemiah 10:37), nobody else was permitted to collect it, and this tithe had to be paid to the tribe of Levi within one of 48 designated Levite cities within Israel (Numbers 35:7).

Every 7th (Sabbath) year (Exodus 23:10), and 50th (Jubilee) year (Leviticus 25:10-11), the entire nation of tithers, within the nation of Israel were completely excluded from paying tithes for those entire years.

So if you are not tithing EXACTLY just like this, as in the above six points, then what you are calling tithing, isn't remotely similar to biblical tithing and neither is it approved by God, as it's simply man-made teaching, promoted today by money-grubbing pastors.

1 Corinthians 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, """or extortioners""", or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, """"nor extortioners"""", shall inherit the kingdom of God.
(RELIGIONS THAT REQUIRE A TITHE ARE EXTORTIONERS, """RUN"""!)

I challange anyone reading this post. To show me ""JUST ONE"" NT scripture requiring belevers to tithe anything.

Before you post the Abraham passage in Hebrews. Here's the facts on that one:

ABRAM
Genesis 14: Abram gives 10% (vs 20) of the best of the war spoils he'd taken to the Priest & King of Salem, Melchizedek.

Abram gives the best 10% of the war spoils to Melchizedek. And the remaining 90% to Sodom & Gomorrah (vs 24). Abram kept NOTHING for himself!

Abram NEVER PAID 10% of his personal items (EVER!): No cattle, no oil or wine, no corn or wheat & NO MONEY! Only booty from the Kings he conquered while retrieving his kidnapped nephew Lot.

Does our local Church & global ministries need our financial support? Of course, yes, ABSOLUTELY!

Acts 20:35 (C) Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
(I see here a blessing promise from the Lord for freewill giving)

1 Cor 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
(Bring WEEKLY your best freewill gift)

2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
(Give a little, receive a little, give alot, receive alot)

7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, ""or of necessity"": for God loveth a cheerful giver.
(A tithe is given out of the laws necessity. A worthless gift from todays believer. A freewill gift from the heart is loved and rewarded by our Lord)

When it comes to giving. New covenant Christians are taught to give generously, sacrificial & expectant of a blessing in return. And most certainly CHEERFULL FREEWILL GIVER'S!

Believers should prayerfully examine our giving patterns. Pray earnestly that the Holy Spirit would challenge us. To see whether they are in line with God's New Testament plan of being Generous, Sacrificial, Cheerful Giver's!
 

Blain

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I was never really taught about the proper way of tithing I just learned my view from spending time with god and here is how i view tithing. You see God taught me that the reason and the motive of the heart is always the deciding factor in both life and in his kingdom. If you give but you give reluctantly and you do so because it's tradition or because your commanded to then your doing it for the wrong reasons. The fruits of our labor should be given with joyful heart and because we love him not because we are told to or for blessings of any kind.

It's kind of how when you give a gift to a person if they know you only did it because you were told to then the value of that gift decreases because it wasn't really from that person because they didn't give it from the heart. Say a person gives ten percent of their fruits but are doing it with reluctance and because that is just how they were taught to do but say a person comes in with only a few dollars to their name and and gives not because they are commanded to but because they love God and want to give to him but it's not ten percent it's more like 2 percent.

Now perhaps the one who gave two percent was in the wrong or maybe not but let me ask this which heart pleased him more?
 
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Christians are tested with the least in the Kingdom of God which is money.

Considering what Jesus has said here (
Luke 16:9-13 NKJV), I think it would be difficult to overstate the significance of this down to earth, practical teaching, that applies to everyone. If a person cannot be trusted with money, and in any capacity, Jesus plainly says, he cannot be trusted with Salvation, i.e., "true riches." In view of the seriousness of what is being said, we would do well to heed carefully.

In these passages (Luke 16:9-13), Jesus is saying that irrespective of how loudly and how often we profess our Godliness, if it does not show up in our practical, every day living, and especially in the matters of money, and our responsibility toward others, our profession is vain. This statement is plain and clear, if we are unfaithful in these things. "Who will commit to our trust the true riches?"
 
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if anyone truly knows/understands the message of the Bible about 'tithing', it's all about
the HEART, and where and when Christ puts us in our lives at just the right moments
to serve others through His Will and direction...

of course, we have a 'choice', whether we will or whether we won't...:rolleyes:
 
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Christians are tested with the least in the Kingdom of God which is money.

Considering what Jesus has said here (
Luke 16:9-13 NKJV), I think it would be difficult to overstate the significance of this down to earth, practical teaching, that applies to everyone. If a person cannot be trusted with money, and in any capacity, Jesus plainly says, he cannot be trusted with Salvation, i.e., "true riches." In view of the seriousness of what is being said, we would do well to heed carefully.

In these passages (Luke 16:9-13), Jesus is saying that irrespective of how loudly and how often we profess our Godliness, if it does not show up in our practical, every day living, and especially in the matters of money, and our responsibility toward others, our profession is vain. This statement is plain and clear, if we are unfaithful in these things. "Who will commit to our trust the true riches?"
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Matthew 6:21
 
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the OT requirements are always about how we apply the Love that Jesus
has Graced us with,..Remember, He is The First, and The Last...
 
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OtherWay210

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Well We are Not under the Old Covenant that was first given and recorded in the OT .
But, we are supposed to follow Gods Word. That includes what is written in the OT such as the Law of God .
The 10 commandments, etc . Do No homosexual acts, etc . Christ said, not one jot or tittle from the sound of a letter of the Law of God, will in no way passaway ..
 
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the OT was God's Word, it has never changed, if one cannot accept this,
then they will 'never' enter into Jesus' everlasting Covenant,..
He became our Holy Sacrifice, He did NOT do AWAY with God's Holy Commandments...
 

Blain

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I don't think anyone is trying to say that the ot is done away with, but you know something I noticed about tithing in the ot is that it seemed like back then it was more of a privilege than a requirement
 

Embankment

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We are not under the OT law period. However Giving is a wonderful thing!
 

hornetguy

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Answer to the OP's question...... no.
 

Nehemiah6

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the OT was God's Word, it has never changed, if one cannot accept this,
then they will 'never' enter into Jesus' everlasting Covenant,..
He became our Holy Sacrifice, He did NOT do AWAY with God's Holy Commandments...
Well since the Temple, the Levitical Priesthood, and the sacrifices of the OT are null and void, what makes you think that tithing according to the OT (which was connected with the Levites and the priesthood) is still in force? And just in case you failed to notice, God Himself tore the Temple veil separating the Holy of Holies from the Holy Place. What was the significance of that?
 

stillness

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"No of necessity for God Loves a cheerful giver."
We are not under obligation of Law, but everyone tithes: what good is money but to invest in what you believe.
 

MarcR

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It is my understanding that the reason for church membership is that we can serve more effectively if we combine our resources of both time and money. That service should involve evangelism including mission and discipleship.

If we do not support the ministry of our church financially we are not participating in the work.

We call Jesus Lord. Lord means OWNER! If we truly acknowledge the Lord as our owner; then we and all we have are His.

The question now is how much dos He want us to keep for our own use.
 

Test_F_i_2_Luv

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I was never really taught about the proper way of tithing I just learned my view from spending time with god and here is how i view tithing. You see God taught me that the reason and the motive of the heart is always the deciding factor in both life and in his kingdom. If you give but you give reluctantly and you do so because it's tradition or because your commanded to then your doing it for the wrong reasons. The fruits of our labor should be given with joyful heart and because we love him not because we are told to or for blessings of any kind.

It's kind of how when you give a gift to a person if they know you only did it because you were told to then the value of that gift decreases because it wasn't really from that person because they didn't give it from the heart. Say a person gives ten percent of their fruits but are doing it with reluctance and because that is just how they were taught to do but say a person comes in with only a few dollars to their name and and gives not because they are commanded to but because they love God and want to give to him but it's not ten percent it's more like 2 percent.

Now perhaps the one who gave two percent was in the wrong or maybe not but let me ask this which heart pleased him more?
Your second paragraph is, in my mind, a longer version of what I believe the N.T. teaching is on giving:

Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. -2 Cor 9:7

If we're going to tithe, then we're obligated to live in a theocracy and be farmers so we can give 3 different types of tithes on livestock/crops. Then we take the tithes to a determined location for the Levites so they can, in turn, take them to the storehouse(Mal 3:10).

In contrast, with 2 Cor 9:7, there is no set amount...the individual listens for God's instruction. :)
 

Test_F_i_2_Luv

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"No of necessity for God Loves a cheerful giver."
We are not under obligation of Law, but everyone tithes: what good is money but to invest in what you believe.

Everyone tithes?

Can you point me to an article that shows better than 10% of churchgoers being givers of 10%(a tithe)?