Is Trump the mouth in Daniel 7 & 8?

[louis]

And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. (Dan 7:25). [Please note that time, times, and the dividing of times is exactly 3 1/2 years)

The time, times, and dividing of time in which the beasts mouth wears out the saints (Daniel 7:25), Revelation 12:6 in regard to Revelation 12:14, time, times, and half a time, constitute 1,260 days, thus denoting shortened years to 360 days.
1 time, +2 times, +1/2 time =3.5 times
1,260 days divided by 3.5 times = 360 days

Daniel 7:25 [FONT=&quot]And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until [/FONT][FONT=&quot]a time and times and the dividing of time[/FONT][FONT=&quot].
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Revelation 12:[/FONT]6 [FONT=&quot]And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there [/FONT][FONT=&quot]a thousand two hundred and threescore days[/FONT][FONT=&quot].[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.[/FONT]

 

[Nehemiah6]

The time, times, and dividing of time in which the beasts mouth wears out the saints (Daniel 7:25), Revelation 12:6 in regard to Revelation 12:14, time, times, and half a time, constitute 1,260 days, thus denoting shortened years to 360 days.

Which goes to prove that Trump has nothing to do with this future prophecy.

 

[Ezekiel8]

I agree. Truly this nation was in need of someone (an outsider and not a political one) to come in and restore this nation. Truly, I believe God heard the prayers and saw the need for this nation to have a leader who actually care about its people and its founding principals.

We need to pray for this president daily and ask God to cover him with wisdom, strength, and guidance.

I fully agree. I think some people don't understand just how very close this nation came to total destruction. If someone as corrupt as Hillary had been elected surely by now all would be lost. I think it very obvious the hand of God was in President Trump's election especially in the way Trump's election totally flies in the face against every lie and device the traitors attempted to devise.

 

[Bladerunner]

I don't think trump has much to do with the endtimes with maybe one exception. He recognized Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel.

This has started a firestorm among Israel's neighbors and will increase to the point that they will have to invade Israel in an effort to destroy her. See Psalms 83...........The exact neighbors are written in its verses.

 

[Bladerunner]

I fully agree. I think some people don't understand just how very close this nation came to total destruction. If someone as corrupt as Hillary had been elected surely by now all would be lost. I think it very obvious the hand of God was in President Trump's election especially in the way Trump's election totally flies in the face against every lie and device the traitors attempted to devise.

Yes, but where is the only ONE superpower in the world with the capability to destroy it all. At the Beginning of the Gog/Magog war, Britian and her young lions only ask if they were invading Israel because of Booty.... Why not help Israel???

Answer: God does all the work in this war........BUT where is the USA here ?????????????

My suspicion is that the Rapture has already Happen. This would almost immediately place the USA back to a third world country.

WHy??? Simple, The USA has a large degree of True Christians. These Christians for the most part hold high places in almost all areas including business, govenment. Think of the Passwords that all of a sudden are lost?

The Military people are also to a very high percentage Christian. They will be gone...Who is going to run the ships, planes, tanks, etc.

This would for all intense and purposes remove the US out of any Bible Prophecy

Now I am not saying, they will be defenseless but it would take time to replace 75 million people and I don't think they could project any type of show of force to any where in the world.



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[louis]

Which goes to prove that Trump has nothing to do with this future prophecy.

It only proves that we are not in the last 3.5 years; there is still the first half of the week; and I'm not sure if we're even at the start of that when an agreement with many has been made (Daniel 9:27).

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[Ezekiel8]

Yes, but where is the only ONE superpower in the world with the capability to destroy it all. At the Beginning of the Gog/Magog war, Britian and her young lions only ask if they were invading Israel because of Booty.... Why not help Israel???

Answer: God does all the work in this war........BUT where is the USA here ?????????????

My suspicion is that the Rapture has already Happen. This would almost immediately place the USA back to a third world country.

WHy??? Simple, The USA has a large degree of True Christians. These Christians for the most part hold high places in almost all areas including business, govenment. Think of the Passwords that all of a sudden are lost?

The Military people are also to a very high percentage Christian. They will be gone...Who is going to run the ships, planes, tanks, etc.

This would for all intense and purposes remove the US out of any Bible Prophecy

Now I am not saying, they will be defenseless but it would take time to replace 75 million people and I don't think they could project any type of show of force to any where in the world.



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Consider Daniel Chapter 11 I think it answers many of the things you wonder here.

 

[pottersclay]

I've read many of the post here on the subject of the Antichrist. First let's establish what Antichrist means.
The term Antichrist means.....instead of God. Not gun ho against God.

Now let's look at a discription of Satan in Genesis and what transpired......

Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said,

Now Satan did not deny God's existence but denied the power of the truth and placed doubt in the Lord's commandment. This my friend is the beginning of what we refer to as the new world order.

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
10But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Personally I'm looking for the false prophet who deceives and makes way for the beast. I believe when the beast is here I will be with Christ.

If you study the book of judges it teaches us that God can and does use imperfect people to do his will.
Our government is as corrupt as the next but the government is upon Christ shoulders not ours.

 

[star]

I fully agree. I think some people don't understand just how very close this nation came to total destruction. If someone as corrupt as Hillary had been elected surely by now all would be lost. I think it very obvious the hand of God was in President Trump's election especially in the way Trump's election totally flies in the face against every lie and device the traitors attempted to devise.

I know I prayed often and with much humility that God would elect Trump. He is a man with flaws as we all are but I truly believe he loves this country and the principals is was founded upon.

We need to continue to pray for him as the snakes, vipers, alligators are all coming at him and his family from all directions.

 

[Ezekiel8]

I know I prayed often and with much humility that God would elect Trump. He is a man with flaws as we all are but I truly believe he loves this country and the principals is was founded upon.

We need to continue to pray for him as the snakes, vipers, alligators are all coming at him and his family from all directions.

I suppose that is good to pray for President Trump, though I think you need not worry too much over him, he seems more than capable of dealing with the unjust and the traitors and the foreign adversaries.

Pray though if you think that fit, though I think on this matter mine have all ready been answered, the praise be to God.

 

[star]

I suppose that is good to pray for President Trump, though I think you need not worry too much over him, he seems more than capable of dealing with the unjust and the traitors and the foreign adversaries.

Pray though if you think that fit, though I think on this matter mine have all ready been answered, the praise be to God.

I pray for God to continue to grant the president wisdom, guidance, strength to endure. Never in my lifetime have I ever seen such level of hatred coming from the left, some of our youth, the media and Hollywood.

Such hatred is pure evil in my book.

 

[posthuman]

Never in my lifetime have I ever seen such level of hatred

were you not around for our last president's administration ??

'tsk tsk such vitriol and divisiveness!' they say.
such irony, such hypocrisy.

 

[Johnny_B]

The first problem is there's no mention of America in prophecy, so I do not see how an American could be mentioned. People groups or nations that are in prophecy can trace their bloodline to the sons of Noah and America cannot do that because we are a mixture of all of those nations or people groups.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

I pray for God to continue to grant the president wisdom, guidance, strength to endure. Never in my lifetime have I ever seen such level of hatred coming from the left, some of our youth, the media and Hollywood.

Such hatred is pure evil in my book.

True not in The USA but it has been the common practice of all extreme socialist states. Anarchy is a political method.

People raging at The President resemble a horde of brainwashed cult followers more than anything else.
And yet they believe they claim the moral high ground. Inside out, upside down & back to front.

 

[star]

were you not around for our last president's administration ??

'tsk tsk such vitriol and divisiveness!' they say.
such irony, such hypocrisy.

Yes I was around and no there was not this level of hatred shown to him nor to his family. The only hypocrisy I have seen these last few months is from those who are spewing forth such hate.

 

[star]

True not in The USA but it has been the common practice of all extreme socialist states. Anarchy is a political method.

People raging at The President resemble a horde of brainwashed cult followers more than anything else.
And yet they believe they claim the moral high ground. Inside out, upside down & back to front.

Agreed. And I would venture to go further and say there is no moral high ground in such hate nor is there any Christian path for such hate.

The left want to call it progressiveness; I call it socialistic

 

[Ezekiel8]

I pray for God to continue to grant the president wisdom, guidance, strength to endure. Never in my lifetime have I ever seen such level of hatred coming from the left, some of our youth, the media and Hollywood.

Such hatred is pure evil in my book.

I suppose that's a good thing to pray for, but I would also say, I think in reality much more people like President Trump than dislike him. Mindful his enemies try to project an image of disfavor against him with their devices and lies. On the ground though I see quite the opposite, especially from those that are around my age, they are very thrilled with President Trump and if I may opine, the most zealous Christians in favor of President Trump are in fact people my age and younger, and for no wonder either, all our lives we've been oppressed and insulted most unjustly.

Let the heathens and unbelievers rage and be daily dismayed, this is largely a reason the people my age wanted President Trump, for he fights all of our enemies that for decades did very wickedly against us.

Here is the primary difference in the hatred against Trump and the hatred against the globalists, namely Obama:

Obama, that literal bastard, and his ilk the globalists like Clinton and Bush and all their lackeys followed after the sin of Balaam. Indeed they are hated because they did that which was evil, wicked, and unwise and as if that were not enough for them they insulted us daily for decades for refusing their wicked devices.

President Trump, the literal diligent son, whom follows after the zeal of righteous Phinehas whom stayed the plague of Peor and was blessed by God. Indeed President Trump is hated by all the evil doers and unbelievers because President Trump does that which is good, righteous, and wise, and not settling just for that, God makes him prosper even more and he praises God openly and exhorts our people daily. They hate President Trump and they hate the light because we refuse their darkness and we reject all of their lies.

Watch diligently and you will see that all the wicked devices of the evil doers are being turned upon themselves and the Lord God is making them fall into the same traps that they designed for us.

It is much like the manner in which Haman the Agagite was impaled upon his own gibbet which he designed for Mordecai, and how those that wished and prepared themselves for to genocide the jews were instead themselves slain by the sword by decree of the queen and sealed with the seal of the king.

 

[posthuman]

Yes I was around and no there was not this level of hatred shown to him nor to his family. The only hypocrisy I have seen these last few months is from those who are spewing forth such hate.

To hear a person say that, all i can think is either your memory is not good or you just had your eyes shut the whole time.

 

[posthuman]

Agreed. And I would venture to go further and say there is no moral high ground in such hate nor is there any Christian path for such hate.

The left want to call it progressiveness; I call it socialistic

Lol

This guy got elected on a campaign of 'hate' - hate Arabs, hate Hispanics, hate politicians, hate the poor, hate the Clintons, hate the news, hate Obama, hate 'the left' hate the 'socialists' etc etc etc.
And 'pastors' got on the radio and convinced tens of thousands that this is the 'christian' thing to do.

You really weren't paying attention, were you?

 

[posthuman]

One side says here is our Messiah, hate the other side.

Every few years they switch roles. That's all.


Let's not pretend. But our citizenship is in heaven, and there are no 'Americans' there. Only He, only we.