If you endure to the end you'll be saved.
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Greetings ComeLordJesus,
That is exactly what Jesus was talking about. About a week after he had said, "there be some standing here who would not taste of death before seeing him in his glory," he took Peter, John and James up on a high mountain and they saw the him transform into his glorified state, fulfilling what the Lord had said to them. Peter, John and James were those who Jesus was speaking about who would not taste death before they saw the Son of Man coming in his glory.
That is exactly what Jesus was talking about. About a week after he had said, "there be some standing here who would not taste of death before seeing him in his glory," he took Peter, John and James up on a high mountain and they saw the him transform into his glorified state, fulfilling what the Lord had said to them. Peter, John and James were those who Jesus was speaking about who would not taste death before they saw the Son of Man coming in his glory.
What we see with the "futurist theologies" is taking scripture out of its 1st century context and trying to apply it after the war of 66-70 AD and the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple:
Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Context for the above:
Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
1st century context for the above demonstrated below:
Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Luke 21:21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Redemption = saved/salvation
Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Context for the above:
Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
1st century context for the above demonstrated below:
Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Luke 21:21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Redemption = saved/salvation
Paul is not speaking of his own personal faith, he was speaking of the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints and is to be defended when ever anyone asks you for a reason of your hope. He is speaking of "the faith" not "my faith" there is a difference.
Jude 1:3 “Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.”
I Peter 3:18 “but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,”
Jude 1:3 “Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.”
I Peter 3:18 “but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,”
All scripture was written for us.
Not all scripture is written to us.
Scripture Study Tips
When dissecting any verse of scripture. Ask yourself, of whom, to whom, with what words, what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what is written before and what follows any single verse context.
^^^Myles Coverdale, Bible theologian/translator.^^^
So, ask: Who is writing? Who’s it written to? What are the circumstances? What’s the context before? What's the context after?
Parsing Matt 24:13
Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Invariably posted, OUT OF CONTEXT. Remove the TEXT and all that's left is the CON!
Matt 24:13 Proper Context.
Who is the speaker? JESUS
Who is Jesus speaking to? JEWS ONLY, There are ""NO"" Christians yet.
Jesus is answering JEWS (NOT CHRISTIANS)
What is the question about? THE END TIMES!
Jesus is speaking about? ISRAELS END TIME FUTURE
Context: Matt 24 vs:3-12 Jesus is speaking to "Jews only about Israels Future" Fortelling the tribulation period to come. BTW the tribulation is referred to as JACOB/ISRAELS TROUBLE. Jeremiah 30:7
vs 3, disciples ask when will the end come,
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars:
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
(NOTE: All this didn't happen during the 1st century)
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
(NOTE: vs 7 is the beginning of sorrows)
13 He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved
(NOTE: Jews that are alive during the great tribulation & make it to the end (only a few "Remnant" make it Rom 9:27 ) AND ALL THAT DO WILL BE SAVED!)
14 This "gospel of the kingdom" shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations & then shall the end come
(NOTE: This still hasn't happened)
These passages "ARE NOT" written to Christians! There are "NO" Christians yet!
Not all scripture is written to us.
Scripture Study Tips
When dissecting any verse of scripture. Ask yourself, of whom, to whom, with what words, what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what is written before and what follows any single verse context.
^^^Myles Coverdale, Bible theologian/translator.^^^
So, ask: Who is writing? Who’s it written to? What are the circumstances? What’s the context before? What's the context after?
Parsing Matt 24:13
Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Invariably posted, OUT OF CONTEXT. Remove the TEXT and all that's left is the CON!
Matt 24:13 Proper Context.
Who is the speaker? JESUS
Who is Jesus speaking to? JEWS ONLY, There are ""NO"" Christians yet.
Jesus is answering JEWS (NOT CHRISTIANS)
What is the question about? THE END TIMES!
Jesus is speaking about? ISRAELS END TIME FUTURE
Context: Matt 24 vs:3-12 Jesus is speaking to "Jews only about Israels Future" Fortelling the tribulation period to come. BTW the tribulation is referred to as JACOB/ISRAELS TROUBLE. Jeremiah 30:7
vs 3, disciples ask when will the end come,
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars:
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
(NOTE: All this didn't happen during the 1st century)
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
(NOTE: vs 7 is the beginning of sorrows)
13 He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved
(NOTE: Jews that are alive during the great tribulation & make it to the end (only a few "Remnant" make it Rom 9:27 ) AND ALL THAT DO WILL BE SAVED!)
14 This "gospel of the kingdom" shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations & then shall the end come
(NOTE: This still hasn't happened)
These passages "ARE NOT" written to Christians! There are "NO" Christians yet!
The gospel had been preached to every creature during Paul's lifetime fulfilling Jesus' command:
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Rom 10:18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
1 Pet 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
You futurists need to heed the actual words written instead of making up things that aren't written in the bible.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Rom 10:18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
1 Pet 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
You futurists need to heed the actual words written instead of making up things that aren't written in the bible.
Mt 10:22
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
KJV
The word translated as 'shall be saved' is σωθήσεται which is not the future; but rather the future perfect; and should be rendered 'shall have been saved. The intent is that only the saved will endure to the end.