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    Jesus is still the prophesied Messiah that came, and Lord and Christ, and Prince of Peace, Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, etc. He has many names. I have not witnessed one person who spoke of Him as the Messiah who did not accept Matthew 28:18- that all authority in heaven and earth has been given to Jesus.

    (Song)
    He is my everything
    He is my all
    He is my everything
    both great and small

    He gave His life for me
    made everything new
    He is my everything
    now how bout you?

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    SONG - Let's Talk About Jesus
    by Herbert Buffum (1879-1939)

    Let's talk about Jesus, let all the world
    proclaim
    The power and majesty of such a wondrous
    name
    The Babe of Bethlehem, the Bright and
    Morning Star
    Let's sing His praises near and far.

    Let's talk about Jesus, the Bread of Life
    is He
    The Saviour of the world, that Man of
    Galilee
    The Prophet, Priest and King, the mighty God
    is He
    The well of Living Water free.

    Let's talk about Jesus, the Rock of Ages He
    The Lamb for sinners slain, that Man of Calvary
    The great Emmanuel, the Word of God sublime
    He is our Bridegroom so divine.

    Let's talk about Jesus, the King of kings is He
    The Lord of lords supreme, through all eternity
    The Great I Am, the Way, the Truth, the Life,
    the Door
    Let's talk about Jesus more and more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    Looks like I have struck a nerve. And calling my post stupid won't change what is from Scripture and shown to be from Scripture for a reason. What you are saying is that calling Jesus "the Lord Jesus Christ" is stupid. And that is actually blasphemous, though you may not realize it.

    To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and
    that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

    Grace
    be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort

    Grace
    be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ...

    Grace
    be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Blessed
    be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ
    No kidding Mcubed is Jewish,wise guy,this is your own "personal grievance" which is why I have treated your remarks as prattle,because you are trying to "force" a "set name and title" for "Everyone" to use for Jesus which is "ludicrous" it's just the same as if someone were to refer to God as The great I am, instead of God,the name and titles of either one "don't change them,themselves,what matters is what is "accepted" not what is merely spoken,granted I do get what you are trying to say that now Jesus is lord of us instead of as before the prophecied Christ,but trying to "restrict" using Jesus's other names and titles and making only one name or title acceptable to all is to "restrict" God's word and in revelations there are two consequences for "taking away from God's word" or "adding to it" you say others are blasphemous but you are putting yourself in said blasphemy with your "obsession".
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    Names, Titles and Characters of Jesus Christ
    Source: https://www.blueletterbible.org/study/parallel/paral19.cfm

    I.—And Simon Peter Answered and said, Thou
    art the Christ, the Son of the Living God.
    Mat 16:16


    The Son 1Jo 4:14
    The Son of God Jhn 1:34
    The Son of the living God Mat 16:16
    His only begotten Son Jhn 3:16
    The Son of the Father 1Jo 1:3
    The only begotten of the Father Jhn 1:14
    The only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father Jhn 1:18
    The first-born of every creature Col 1:15
    His own Son Rom 8:32
    A Son given Isa 9:6
    One Son (his well-beloved) Mar 12:6
    My Son Psa 2:7
    His dear Son (or the Son of his love) Col 1:13
    The Son of the Highest Luk 1:32
    The Son of the Blessed Mar 14:61
    Secret Jdg 13:18
    Wonderful Isa 9:6

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    Testimony borne to the Son by the
    Father, by Jesus Himself, by the Spirit,
    by Angels, saints, men and devils.
    The Father, "My Beloved Son." Mat 17:5
    Jesus Himself, "I am the Son of God." Jhn 10:36
    The Spirit, "The Son of God." Mar 1:1
    Gabriel, "The Son of God." Luk 1:35; 2:11
    John Baptist, "This is the Son of God." Jhn 1:34
    John, Apostle, "The Christ, the Son of God." Jhn 20:31
    Paul, Apostle, "He is the Son of God." Act 9:20
    Disciples, "Thou art the Son of God." Mat 14:33
    Nathaniel, "Rabbi, thou art the Son of God." Jhn 1:49
    Martha, "The Christ, the Son of God." Jhn 11:27
    Eunuch, "Jesus Christ is the Son of God." Act 8:37
    Centurion, "Truly this was the Son of God." Mar 15:39
    Unclean spirits, "Thou art the Son of God." Mar 3:11
    The Legion, "Thou Son of the Most High God." Mar 5:7

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    II.—Unto the Son he saith, Thy throne,
    O God, is for ever and ever.
    Hbr 1:8
    God Jhn 1:1; Mat 1:23; Isa 40:3
    Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever Hbr 1:8
    The Mighty God Isa 9:6
    The Everlasting God Isa 40:28
    The True God 1Jo 5:20
    My Lord and my God Jhn 20:28
    God my Saviour Luk 1:47
    Over all, God blessed for ever. Amen Rom 9:5
    The God of the whole earth Isa 54:5
    God manifest in the flesh 1Ti 3:16
    Our God and Savior 2Pe 1:1
    The great God and our Saviour, Jesus Christ Tts 2:13
    Emanuel, God with us Mat 1:23
    The God of Abraham, The God of Isaac, The God of Jacob Exd 3:2, 6
    The Highest Luk 1:76

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    III.—Verily, verily, I say unto you,
    Before Abraham was, I am.
    Jhn 8:58.
    Holy, Holy, Holy is Jehovah of Hosts.
    Isa 6:3
    Jehovah Isa 40:3
    The Lord Jehovah Isa 40:10
    Jehovah my God Zec 14:5
    Jehovah of Hosts Isa 6:3; Jhn 12:41
    Jehovah, God of Hosts Hsa 12:4, 5; Gen 32:24
    The King, Jehovah of Hosts Isa 6:5
    The Strong and Mighty Jehovah Psa 24:8
    Jehovah, mighty in battle Psa 24:8
    The Man, Jehovah's Fellow Zec 13:7
    Jehovah-tsidkenu (the Lord our righteousness) Jer 23:6
    The Lord Rom 10:13; Joe 2:32
    The Lord of Glory 1Cr 2:8
    The Same Hbr 1:12; Psa 102:27
    I am Exd 3:14; Jhn 8:24
    I am (before Abraham was) Jhn 8:58
    I am (whom they sought to kill) Jhn 18:5, 6
    I am (the Son of Man lifted up) Jhn 8:28
    I am (the Resurrection and the Life) Jhn 11:25

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    IV.—He is before All things, and
    by Him All things consist.
    Col 1:17
    The Almighty, which is, and which was, and which is to come Rev 1:8
    The Creator of all things Col 1:16
    The Upholder of all things Hbr 1:3
    The Everlasting Father (or Father of Eternity) Isa 9:6
    The Beginning Col 1:18
    The Beginning and the Ending Rev 1:8
    The Alpha and the Omega Rev 1:8
    The First and the Last Rev 1:17
    The Life 1Jo 1:2
    Eternal Life 1Jo 5:20
    That Eternal Life which was with the Father 1Jo 1:2
    He that liveth Rev 1:18

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    V.—No man hath seen God at any time;
    he hath declared Him.
    Jhn 1:18
    The Word Jhn 1:1
    The Word was with God Jhn 1:1
    The Word was God Jhn 1:1
    The Word of God Rev 19:13
    The Word of Life 1Jo 1:1
    The Word was made flesh Jhn 1:14
    The Image of God 2Cr 4:4
    The Image of the Invisible God Col 1:15
    The Express Image of his Person Hbr 1:3
    The Brightness of his Glory Hbr 1:3
    Wisdom Pro 8:12, 22
    The Wisdom of God 1Cr 1:24
    The Power of God 1Cr 1:24
    My Messenger Isa 42:19
    The Messenger of the Covenant Mal 3:1
    The Angel of Jehovah Gen 22:15
    The Angel of God Gen 31:11, 13; Exd 14:19
    The Angel of his presence Isa 63:9

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    VI.—Thou hast made Him a
    little lower than the angels.
    Hbr 2:7
    The Man Jhn 19:5
    The Man Christ Jesus 1Ti 2:5
    A Man approved of God Act 2:22
    The Second Man, the Lord from heaven 1Cr 15:47
    The Son of Man Mar 10:33
    The Son of Abraham Mat 1:1
    The Son of David Mat 1:1
    The Son of Mary Mar 6:3
    The Son of Joseph (reputed) Jhn 1:45
    The Seed of the Woman Gen 3:15
    The Seed of Abraham Gal 3:16, 19
    Of the Seed of David Rom 1:3

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    Preference.. King, Lord.. Master.. Good Shepherd... Messiah.. Christ.... Saviour.. Jesus or Yahshua... our inward calls and our Lord saves us... no language barrier when the heart seeks for GOD is above all things.


    Bishop of our Souls... High Priest... all Biblical... Joshua obviously being the closest transliteration used in the Bible I read.
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    VII.—Lo, I Come, to do thy will, O God. Hbr 10:9
    The Babe Luk 2:12
    The Child Isa 7:16
    The Young Child Mat 2:20
    A Child Born Isa 9:6
    The Child Jesus Luk 2:43
    Her First-Born Son Luk 2:7
    The Sent of the Father Jhn 10:36
    The Apostle Hbr 3:1
    A Prophet Act 3:22, 23
    A Great Prophet Luk 7:16
    The Prophet of Nazareth Mat 21:11
    A Prophet mighty in deed and word Luk 24:19
    A Servant Phl 2:7
    The Servant of the Father Mat 12:18
    My Servant, O Israel Isa 49:3
    My Servant, the Branch Zec 3:8
    My Righteous Servant Isa 53:11
    A Servant of Rulers Isa 49:7
    A Nazarene, or Nazarite Mat 2:23
    The Carpenter Mar 6:3
    The Carpenter's Son (reputed) Mat 13:55
    He Humbled Himself unto death Phl 2:8
    A Stranger and an Alien Psa 69:8
    A Man of Sorrows Isa 53:3
    A Worm, and no Man Psa 22:6
    Accursed of God (or the Curse of God) Deu 21:23

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    VIII.—God hath given him A Name
    which is above every name.
    Phl 2:9, 10
    Jesus Mat 1:21
    Jesus Himself Luk 24:15
    I, Jesus Rev 22:16
    A Saviour, Jesus Act 13:23
    The Saviour of the World 1Jo 4:14
    A Saviour, which is Christ the Lord Luk 2:11
    Jesus Christ Rev 1:5
    The Lord Jesus Christ Col 1:2
    Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself 2Th 2:16
    Jesus the Christ Mat 16:20
    Jesus Christ our Lord Rom 5:21
    Jesus Christ the Righteous 1Jo 2:1
    Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, to-day and for ever Hbr 13:8
    Jesus of Nazareth Act 22:8
    Jesus Christ of Nazareth Act 4:10
    Lord Jesus Act 7:59
    Christ Jesus 1Ti 1:15
    Christ Mat 23:8
    Messiah, which is called Christ Jhn 4:25
    Anointed Psa 2:2; Act 4:27
    Christ the Lord Luk 2:11
    The Lord Christ Col 3:24
    The Christ of God Luk 9:20
    The Lord's Christ Luk 2:26
    The Christ, the Son of the Blessed Mar 14:61
    The Christ, the Saviour of the World Jhn 4:42

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    IX.—Worthy is the Lamb that was slain
    to receive power, riches, wisdom, strength,
    honor, glory and blessing.
    Rev 5:12
    The Lamb of God Jhn 1:29
    A Lamb without blemish and without spot 1Pe 1:19
    The Lamb that was slain Rev 5:12
    A Lamb as it had been slain Rev 5:6
    The Lamb in the midst of the throne Rev 7:17
    The Bridegroom Mat 9:15; Rev 21:9
    The Lamb (the Temple of the City) Rev 21:22
    The Lamb (the Light of the City) Rev 21:23
    The Lamb (the Overcomer) Rev 17:14
    X.—I will set up One Shepherd over
    them, and he shall feed them.
    Eze 34:23
    One Shepherd Jhn 10:16
    Jehovah's Shepherd Zec 13:7
    The Shepherd of the Sheep Hbr 13:20
    The Way Jhn 14:6
    The Door of the Sheep Jhn 10:7
    The Shepherd of Israel Eze 34:23
    The Shepherd and Bishop of Souls 1Pe 2:25
    The Good Shepherd (that laid down his life) Jhn 10:11
    The Great Shepherd (that was brought again from the dead) Hbr 13:20
    The Chief Shepherd (that shall again appear) 1Pe 5:4

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    XI.—The Tree of Life in the midst
    of the Paradise of God.
    Rev 2:7
    The Root of Jesse Isa 11:10
    The Root of David Rev 5:5
    The Root and Offspring of David Rev 22:16
    A Rod out of the stem of Jesse Isa 11:1
    A Branch out of his roots Isa 11:1
    The Branch Zec 6:12
    The Branch of the Lord Isa 4:2
    The Branch of Righteousness Jer 33:15
    A Righteous Branch Jer 23:5
    The Branch strong for thyself Psa 80:15
    The Vine Jhn 15:5
    The True Vine Jhn 15:1
    The Tree of Life Rev 2:7
    The Corn of Wheat Jhn 12:24
    The Bread of God Jhn 6:33
    The True Bread from Heaven Jhn 6:32
    The Bread which came down from Heaven Jhn 6:41
    The Bread which cometh down from Heaven Jhn 6:50
    The Bread of Life Jhn 6:35
    The Living Bread Jhn 6:51
    The Hidden Manna Rev 2:17
    A Plant of Renown Eze 34:29
    The Rose of Sharon Sgs 2:1
    The Lily of the Valley Sgs 2:1
    A Bundle of Myrrh Sgs 1:13
    A Cluster of Camphire Sgs 1:14

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    XII.—I am the Light of the world;
    he that followeth me shall have
    the Light of Life.
    Jhn 8:12
    The Light Jhn 12:35
    The True Light Jhn 1:9
    A Great Light Isa 9:2
    A Light came into the world Jhn 12:46
    The Light of the world Jhn 8:12
    The Light of men Jhn 1:4
    A Light to lighten the Gentiles Luk 2:32
    A Light of the Gentiles Isa 42:6
    A Star Num 24:17
    The Morning Star Rev 2:28
    The Bright and Morning Star Rev 22:16
    The Day Star 2Pe 1:19
    The Day-spring from on High Luk 1:78
    The Sun of Righteousness Mal 4:2
    XIII.—The name of the Lord
    is a Strong Tower.
    Pro 18:10
    The Strength of the children of Israel Joe 3:12-16
    A Strength to the Poor Isa 25:4
    A Strength to the needy in distress Isa 25:4
    A Refuge from the Storm Isa 25:4
    A Covert from the Tempest Isa 32:2
    The Hope of his people Joe 3:12-16
    A Horn of Salvation Luk 1:69

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    XIV.—They drank of that spiritual Rock that
    followed them, and that Rock was Christ.
    1Cr 10:4
    The Rock Mat 16:18
    My Strong Rock Psa 31:2
    The Rock of Ages Isa 26:4
    The Rock that is higher than I Psa 61:2
    My Rock and my Fortress Psa 31:3
    The Rock of my Strength Psa 62:7
    The Rock of my Refuge Psa 94:22
    A Rock of Habitation Psa 71:3
    The Rock of my Heart Psa 73:26
    The Rock of my Salvation 2Sa 22:47
    My Rock and my Redeemer Psa 19:14
    That Spiritual Rock 1Cr 10:4
    The Rock that followed them 1Cr 10:4
    A Shadow from the Heat Isa 25:4

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    Well I think Magenta pretty much showed it doesn’t matter what we call Jesus,
    every name will leave something out. Lol

    He knows who He is, the important thing is if we do.
    He is God and we are not.


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    XV.—Other Foundation can no man lay than
    that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
    1Cr 3:11
    The Builder Hbr 3:3; Mat 16:18
    The Foundation 1Cr 3:11
    A Sure Foundation Isa 28:16
    A Stone Isa 28:16
    A Living Stone 1Pe 2:4
    A Tried Stone Isa 28:16
    A Chief Corner-stone 1Pe 2:6
    An Elect Stone 1Pe 2:6
    A Precious Stone 1Pe 2:6
    The Head Stone of the Corner Psa 118:22
    A Stone cut out without hands Dan 2:34, 45
    But unto them which are disobedient, -
    A Stone of Stumbling 1Pe 2:8
    A Rock of Offence 1Pe 2:8

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    XVI.—In His Temple every Whit
    of it uttereth His glory.
    Psa 29:9
    The Temple Rev 21:22
    A Sanctuary Isa 8:14
    The Minister of the Sanctuary and of the True Tabernacle Hbr 8:2
    Minister of the Circumcision Rom 15:8
    The Veil (his flesh) Hbr 10:20
    The Altar Hbr 13:10
    The Offerer Hbr 7:27
    The Offering Eph 5:2
    The Sacrifice Eph 5:2
    A Ransom (his life) Mar 10:45
    The Lamb Rev 7:9
    The Lamb Slain Rev 13:8
    The Forerunner (for us entered, even Jesus) Hbr 6:20
    The Mercy-seat (or Propitiation) Rom 3:25
    The Priest Hbr 5:6
    The High Priest Hbr 3:1
    The Great High Priest Hbr 4:14
    The Mediator 1Ti 2:5
    The Daysman Job 9:33
    The Interpreter Job 33:23
    The Intercessor Hbr 7:25
    The Advocate 1Jo 2:1
    The Surety Hbr 7:22

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