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13/11/2017 17:50:48: Odette: A pastor preaching the word of God in a church of his friend, * The next day, the church empties. * Why?

Here is what he has preaching (3 min of reading in synthesis)

_ 1. # It starts: _

* Who knows the apostasy? No one answers *
Okay. Okay!

_ 2. # It continues: _

God the Father is angry with the churches.

Apostasy took place, even in the holy place of the church.
People enter the church and always come out with the same demons in their lives. The church became the place of entry and exit of the demons in the bodies of the Christians.
_ 3. # he says:

We are no longer preaching to people to purify themselves and walk in sanctification to prepare their hearts for the encounter of Christ.

How can you do 2, 5, 10 years with the same sins, then go ahead and sing, moderate, intercede and do protocol? Do you not know that you are the gateway to the Church and the group of demons?

Can a Christian dwell with evil spirits in his body, which is the Temple of God? No?
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4. # It goes on and says: _

When one preaches in some churches, some prophets and pastors colour the fornication for fear of losing the tithes. They colour the oil, the adulterated for fear of losing the tithes.
Does God need the quantities of souls or does he need the qualities in his church?
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* To destroy the world at the flood, God has saved the quality of 8 righteous on more than 1 or 2 billion of the wicked in antiquity. No?
* To burn Sodom and Gomorrah, God saves 1 just with his 2 daughters on more than 2 million inhabitants. Lot
* Now Jesus Christ has calmed the wrath of the Father by his blood and you continue to sin voluntarily?
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*-Prosperity without sanctification is a curse *

_-The tithe without obedience to the word of God is a null sacrifice before God, for obedience is better than sacrifices _-

*-The Prophecy in the life of a pastor who walks in sins, this prophecy is a DIVINATION. (Python's spirit). The same with the marabouts *

_ *-Travels without the fear of God is perdition * _

_-The alliance in the finger of marriage with the life of sins at home is home whose foundation is built on the sand_-

*-Prayer without having the love to forgive others is a vain sacrifice. Without charity, prayer is a cymbal sound, or an empty barrel in the ears of God. *
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_ 5. # It continues:

The church has become the seat of demonstration of the power of darkness. * Where are you Adam? Or are you a Christian? Where are you hiding? *

* Satanist authorities (Rose-Croix, Freemason,...) Enter and camouflage behind the churches and you pastor you shut up to preach repentance for fear of losing tithes and building offerings. (greed). This soul goes to hell and God will ask for his blood.
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6. # It still goes on and says: _

The sins of the flesh are: drunkenness, fornication, abortion (even a foetus), murder, adulterated, falsehood, disbelief in fetishism, resentment, hatred, jealousies, envy, excesses of table, fornication, Rebellion, Division, Magic, idolatry, witchcraft, robberies, quarrels, disputes,... have become normal in the lives of Christians. If you do, you will not inherit the sky and the Rapture will surprise you.

* Go into the church with the same sin confessed of fornication and take back the same sin tomorrow, you are a candidate for hell. * For there is no more forgiveness for the voluntary sin says the Bible. *
Will we sin voluntarily so that grace over-abounds? No! The grace is for the ignorant as the pagans and not the hypocrite Christians who are aware of their sins.
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_ # 7. It closes and says: _

But, God gives you time to change before it's too late. * His patience is not an extension of your sins but of your sincere repentance. *
These sins will prevent you from being removed in the air to see Christ.
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Hell is the worst of all places if you die today. At present, the rebellious Christians are punished 10,000 times more than the Pagans in Hell of the eternity in eternity. There is no rest, not even a second to close your eyes. A terrible torment of fire.
Even the pastors who destroyed the Church of God are currently in hell punished severely by demons and Satan in person.

Currently Satan has power over hell (stays of the dead), to punish and torture souls.

* Hell is already open; this is the current stay of the dead. But the pond of fire and sulphur will be opened at the last judgement. * That's right
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It is high time to give up the cherished sins that surround you. Seek God in truth.

The abduction is at the beloved gate. Many Christians believe that abduction is at the beloved door. Many Christians believe that the abduction of the church is a political slogan, or a utopia. Many will be surprised.

* Forsakes the life of the world that is enmity to God. The lusts of the eyes, the pleasures of the world, and the desires of the flesh are against the father.

* Do not prolong your repentance to say: I still have 2, 3, 10, 20 or 30 years before me. I have to make a living.
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After death, there is no longer a second chance. Purgatory does not exist in the Bible.
Give your life back to Jesus Christ and repent so remember where you fell and practice your first works
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* Jesus Christ loves you very much and gives you a new chance. He wants to save you from hell the Lord who is the pond of fire and brimstone. He wants to give you a new white dress. Come to him.

Amen

This is how the souls fled the church because of the truth. But not you beloved. God chose you and elected you before your mother's womb.

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Magenta

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For there is no more forgiveness for the voluntary sin says the Bible.
Hello MissAfricanNproud :) I realize this is not something you wrote, as you say you received it from a friend, but would it be possible for you to clarify at all which sins are voluntary, and which ones are involuntary? Thank you :) For the record, Jesus identified only one unforgivable sin.
 
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Well Magneta, as i received this message from whatsapp, i just shared it. :) maybe you would like for me to post it in french? Maybe someone could do better translation for it is french language and into English? I would like your advice on it, whether to post in French or not?
 

Dino246

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Sadly, much of the quoted material in the OP is simply unbiblical. Some of it is poor translation, it seems, and some is just wacky. For starters, tithing is not a New Covenant requirement.
 

Magenta

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Well Magneta, as i received this message from whatsapp, i just shared it. :) maybe you would like for me to post it in french? Maybe someone could do better translation for it is french language and into English? I would like your advice on it, whether to post in French or not?
French? Did you translate it from the French language? No, I would not gain anything from you posting the message in French, nor would many others here. This is an English language site, and English is my language. I do understand that we are an international community, and there may be those whose first language is French, but there is also the matter of the site rules :) Number four states:

4. English, please.
Please speak mostly English in the chat rooms so that others can understand you. At least please do not dominate the voice/video chat (or text chat) with conversation in another language.

What I was wondering is, if there is any way for you to make a distinction for us between what is referred to as voluntary sins, and involuntary sins. I also felt it was important to convey the fact that there is only one sin that Jesus identified as being unforgivable.

Part of the reason for my question was just to get the conversation going. Your OP is quite long and somewhat baffling. Where to start? It was a starting point :)
 

OneFaith

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“But if you sin willfully (without goal or effort to stop) there no longer remains a sacrifice for your sins.” (Whether you give in church or not (which is not tithing).
 
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Hi Magenta,

Yes. I translated it for it was mainly from French language, i agree that here since it is international community, it is better to post in English :) and thanks for your advice. Yep, i received a long message on whatsapp.

As to answer your question :-

[FONT=&quot]Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. (1 John chp 3 v 4)
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I am not classifying what sin is voluntary or involuntary for it finally leads to death.
[FONT=&quot]For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Roman chp 6 v 23)[/FONT]


I am just taking an example
:- there is a pastor who was anointed into ministry by someone who was near to God. The pastor had well started into the ministry and has a large church, God used him in a great dimension but when the pastor didn't let God continue to be his guide and he didn't stay humble as he was before. He is married and his wife was also in ministry but his life become adultery when he leaves his wife and takes another woman despite knowing in bible that christians who are married cannot divorce for Jesus Christ is against divorce and honors marriage. Still, the pastor continues to have affairs and continue to exert his ministry in the church.

By this example, i mean to say this pastor is not guided by Holy Spirit but by his own spirit which does the contrary of the will of God and the bible. The pastor knows what he is doing and do leave behind the wisdom of God and Holy Spirit. God will judge each our actions whether good or bad or hidden. That's what the pastor Odette meant.


I hope to have help. :)