Dispensation

[FlyingDove]

Vine's Dictionary of New Testament Words:
"dispensation" is not a period or epoch (a common, but erroneous, use of the word), but a mode of dealing, an arrangement, or administration of affairs

The stewardship/administration/stewardship commited to Paul, "to fulfill the Word of God. To unfold the completion of the Divinely arranged TIME CYCLES OF TRUTH.

Paul, applies dispensation to the responsibility entrusted to him of preaching the Gospel.

Ephesian 1:
9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
(Note: GOD NOW REVEALS THE MYSTERY KEPT """SECRET""")

10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
(Note: TO BE REVEALED NOW IN THE """FULNESS IN THIS DISPENSATION OF TIME""")

Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
(Note: PAUL IS APPOINTED A NEW DISPENSATION/STEWARDSHIP & RESPONSIBILITY TO ADMINISTER GOD"S WORD)

26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
(Note: ANYTIME WE SEE THE WORD MYSTERY: WE SEE A SECRET GOD HAS KEPT HIDDEN """IN TIME""" IS NOW REVEALED)

27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
(Note: THE TIME HIDDEN DISPENSATION/STEWARDSHIP MYSTERY GIVEN PAUL HERE. IS THAT GENTILES WILL BE OFFERED SALVATION BY FAITH)

1 Corinthians 9:17 (C) a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
(Note: A NEW TIME DISPENSATION OF THE GOSPEL'S STEWARDSHIP & RESPONSIBILITY IS GIVEN PAUL TO PREACH: THE GOSPEL OF GRACE)

Ephesians 3:
2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
(Note: PAUL WRITES HERE ABOUT: DISPENSATION/STEWARDSHIP & RESPONSIBILITY TO PREACH GRACE. GIVEN TO HIM BY GOD HIMSELF)

3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
(Note: GOD REVEALS TO PAUL """NOW AT THIS APPOINTED TIME""" THE GRACE MYSTERY/SECRET)

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
(Note: THE GRACE MYSTERY/SECRET IS THRU/BY JESUS CHRIST)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
(Note: GOD THRU HIS HOLY SPIRIT HAS REVEALED TO PAUL. AND CHOOSE HIM TO PREACH THIS SECRET. NEVER REVEALED IN PAST ""TIMES/AGES"")

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
(Note: THE MYSYERY/SECRET HIDDEN IN """TIME""" THAT IS NOW REVEALED AT THIS """TIME DISPENSATION""". IS THAT THRU THE SIN ATONING SACRIFICE. FOUND IN THE DEATH, BURIAL & RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST. GENTILES WILL BE OFFERED SALVATION.)

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
(Note: THE MYSTERY/SECRET OF GENTILE FELLOWSHIP. HIDDEN SINCE BEFORE """TIME""" IN JESUS CHRIST)

A FEW TIME DISPENSATION'S
At the fall of Adam & Eve, God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration with mankind.

Noah: a man righteous in God's sight. Not because Noah was perfect/sinless. The only sinless person was Jesus.

Here again at this TIME dispensation. God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration towards mankind.

Abram: another man righteous in Gods sight. Through faith not works.

Here again at this TIME dispensation. God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration with mankind.

Moses: God chooses Moses to deliver His people. God gives the Law & the priestly sacrificial system.

Here again at this TIME dispensation. God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration with mankind.

Jesus Christ: God sends His Son, a sinless Jesus Christ. To make atonement for Adams sin.

Here again at this TIME dispensation. God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration with mankind.

The Resurrection of Jesus Christ: After His resurrection Jesus, chooses Paul to preach the Gospel of Grace & opens the door of salvation to Gentiles. I'm sure all that read this far, KNOW. Gentiles weren't part of Jesus earthly ministry.

Here again at this TIME dispensation. God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration with mankind.

That's my take on dispensation & you say?

 

[Locutus]

I think if yer trying to promote the dispensationalist two gospel theme you'd be a flyingdud...

Yer need to ditch the KJV for a more modern version.

 

[iamsoandso]

I think if yer trying to promote the dispensationalist two gospel theme you'd be a flyingdud...

Yer need to ditch the KJV for a more modern version.

lol, this is going to get real good real fast,that is explaining how that first we just had the Greek, then we were blessed with the Latin version,,,then the rest and now were narrowed down to the fact that only those who have "THE MODERN VERSION" ended up being the only Christians across the 1900+ years that ever knew the truth?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Yer need to ditch the KJV for a more modern version.

Not version but "corruption". No you do not need to ditch the KJV at all, but urge other Christians to ditch their modern "versions" (regardless of which so-called "standard" version they use).

Back to the OP Dispensationalism (properly understood and properly taught) DOES NOT promote two Gospels. There is but one Gospel. But there are indeed several dispensations, which generally correspond to the covenants found in the Bible. However there is no so-called "Covenant of Works" with Adam as promoted by Covenant Theology. The word covenant first appears in relation to Noah.

Has anyone ever wondered how there can possibly be three, or four, or five "standard" versions? A standard -- by definition -- means one singular standard from which all others take their cue. Do you see what a farce the modern versions are?

 

[Locutus]

lol, this is going to get real good real fast,that is explaining how that first we just had the Greek, then we were blessed with the Latin version,,,then the rest and now were narrowed down to the fact that only those who have "THE MODERN VERSION" ended up being the only Christians across the 1900+ years that ever knew the truth?

Yeah but, yeah but - the dispensationalist two gospel theme needs to claim Paul had a dispensation of grace gospel (based on a misunderstanding of the language of the KJV), whereas the other dispensation got put on old till the Jews supposedly smarten up and recognise JC as the real messiah.

 

[OtherWay210]

Its just a another word, for timeline. Its not a doctrine unto itself . No need to start a new church over it, or go to the other extreme and accuse others of doing so simply for using the word ..

So if a prophecy takes from point A to B ; and your're noting the events within that timeline as it plays out ,
you may use the word dispensation to describe it . Example : talking about New Covenant, you'd say we're living in the dispensation of Grace. Which is a true matter of fact statement . A big word was used. Thats all ...

In contrast, to when Christ actually returns at the second advent, that comes to a close . So people are really making a mountain, from nothing. Just study your bible. and you wont all lose it at the first mention of a bible verse you've never read or a word you're unfamiliar with .

 

[iamsoandso]

Yeah but, yeah but - the dispensationalist two gospel theme needs to claim Paul had a dispensation of grace gospel (based on a misunderstanding of the language of the KJV), whereas the other dispensation got put on old till the Jews supposedly smarten up and recognise JC as the real messiah.

lol, Chiliaism,,,the 5th sun of the meso-indians,,the Greeks 6 days ect.ect. the concept of six days divisions of earth’s days were debated long before Darby...

 

[Locutus]

lol, Chiliaism,,,the 5th sun of the meso-indians,,the Greeks 6 days ect.ect. the concept of six days divisions of earth’s days were debated long before Darby...

True - but dispensationalism needs to maintain a difference by creating a dispensation of grace that supposedly was only taught by Paul and not by Peter.

 

[OtherWay210]

Only thing I'd use caution with is the excessive need to add commentary to these verses...
Just try an Allow the Bible to supply the help understand it .
The verses can't be understood outside of its whole .... Otherwise you'll just end with more denominations ...

 

[iamsoandso]

True - but dispensationalism needs to maintain a difference by creating a dispensation of grace that supposedly was only taught by Paul and not by Peter.

You mean Acts 15:11 where after they were brought up to speed on the matter after being told "nothing doubting..." in acts 10,11.?. lol,it seemed to catch them all off guard at first too right? But then again there's probably a really good example of where the 12 teaching something before it was shone to them right?

 

[Locutus]

You mean Acts 15:11 where after they were brought up to speed on the matter after being told "nothing doubting..." in acts 10,11.?. lol,it seemed to catch them all off guard at first too right? But then again there's probably a really good example of where the 12 teaching something before it was shone to them right?

Yep - Peter didn't seem to realize that the gospel was meant for the goyim nations as well

And this raises a point - Cornelius was a gentile - so did Peter preach the same gospel as Paul preached to him or did he have a different gospel?

 

[iamsoandso]

Yep - Peter didn't seem to realize that the gospel was meant for the goyim nations as well

And this raises a point - Cornelius was a gentile - so did Peter preach the same gospel as Paul preached to him or did he have a different gospel?

lol, I hit edit,and was going to correct the capital A in Acts and messed up the tense of "taught",,,I'm a punctuation nightmare,lol.

So in your honest opinion do you think that the 12 "TAUGHT" this at any point before the time frame of Acts 9-15 ?....now I know that Paul did from Acts 9 forward but the 12 did they?

 

[Locutus]

lol, I hit edit,and was going to correct the capital A in Acts and messed up the tense of "taught",,,I'm a punctuation nightmare,lol.

So in your honest opinion do you think that the 12 "TAUGHT" this at any point before the time frame of Acts 9-15 ?....now I know that Paul did from Acts 9 forward but the 12 did they?

Hard to say sosandso - my guess (I'd need to do some digging around) would be they taught the gospel of grace, but only to those of their nation, if I'm understanding your question here.

 

[iamsoandso]

Hard to say sosandso - my guess (I'd need to do some digging around) would be they taught the gospel of grace, but only to those of their nation, if I'm understanding your question here.

Exactly "only to the Jews" a few chapters before 9,10,11 of Acts (around the part about Steven).

 

[iamsoandso]

Exactly "only to the Jews" a few chapters before 9,10,11 of Acts (around the part about Steven).

Post # 8,,,were still waiting for any dispy to establish it...I am out side the the camps and it would not be fair for me to speak for you,,,

 

[Locutus]

Post # 8,,,were still waiting for any dispy to establish it...I am out side the the camps and it would not be fair for me to speak for you,,,

They all seem to have disp-appeared.....

 

[Bladerunner]

Vine's Dictionary of New Testament Words:
"dispensation" is not a period or epoch (a common, but erroneous, use of the word), but a mode of dealing, an arrangement, or administration of affairs

The stewardship/administration/stewardship commited to Paul, "to fulfill the Word of God. To unfold the completion of the Divinely arranged TIME CYCLES OF TRUTH.

Paul, applies dispensation to the responsibility entrusted to him of preaching the Gospel.

Ephesian 1:
9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
(Note: GOD NOW REVEALS THE MYSTERY KEPT """SECRET""")

10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
(Note: TO BE REVEALED NOW IN THE """FULNESS IN THIS DISPENSATION OF TIME""")

Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
(Note: PAUL IS APPOINTED A NEW DISPENSATION/STEWARDSHIP & RESPONSIBILITY TO ADMINISTER GOD"S WORD)

26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
(Note: ANYTIME WE SEE THE WORD MYSTERY: WE SEE A SECRET GOD HAS KEPT HIDDEN """IN TIME""" IS NOW REVEALED)

27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
(Note: THE TIME HIDDEN DISPENSATION/STEWARDSHIP MYSTERY GIVEN PAUL HERE. IS THAT GENTILES WILL BE OFFERED SALVATION BY FAITH)

1 Corinthians 9:17 (C) a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
(Note: A NEW TIME DISPENSATION OF THE GOSPEL'S STEWARDSHIP & RESPONSIBILITY IS GIVEN PAUL TO PREACH: THE GOSPEL OF GRACE)

Ephesians 3:
2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
(Note: PAUL WRITES HERE ABOUT: DISPENSATION/STEWARDSHIP & RESPONSIBILITY TO PREACH GRACE. GIVEN TO HIM BY GOD HIMSELF)

3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
(Note: GOD REVEALS TO PAUL """NOW AT THIS APPOINTED TIME""" THE GRACE MYSTERY/SECRET)

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
(Note: THE GRACE MYSTERY/SECRET IS THRU/BY JESUS CHRIST)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
(Note: GOD THRU HIS HOLY SPIRIT HAS REVEALED TO PAUL. AND CHOOSE HIM TO PREACH THIS SECRET. NEVER REVEALED IN PAST ""TIMES/AGES"")

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
(Note: THE MYSYERY/SECRET HIDDEN IN """TIME""" THAT IS NOW REVEALED AT THIS """TIME DISPENSATION""". IS THAT THRU THE SIN ATONING SACRIFICE. FOUND IN THE DEATH, BURIAL & RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST. GENTILES WILL BE OFFERED SALVATION.)

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
(Note: THE MYSTERY/SECRET OF GENTILE FELLOWSHIP. HIDDEN SINCE BEFORE """TIME""" IN JESUS CHRIST)

A FEW TIME DISPENSATION'S
At the fall of Adam & Eve, God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration with mankind.

Noah: a man righteous in God's sight. Not because Noah was perfect/sinless. The only sinless person was Jesus.

Here again at this TIME dispensation. God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration towards mankind.

Abram: another man righteous in Gods sight. Through faith not works.

Here again at this TIME dispensation. God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration with mankind.

Moses: God chooses Moses to deliver His people. God gives the Law & the priestly sacrificial system.

Here again at this TIME dispensation. God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration with mankind.

Jesus Christ: God sends His Son, a sinless Jesus Christ. To make atonement for Adams sin.

Here again at this TIME dispensation. God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration with mankind.

The Resurrection of Jesus Christ: After His resurrection Jesus, chooses Paul to preach the Gospel of Grace & opens the door of salvation to Gentiles. I'm sure all that read this far, KNOW. Gentiles weren't part of Jesus earthly ministry.

Here again at this TIME dispensation. God changes His fellowship - stewardship/administration with mankind.

That's my take on dispensation & you say?

Let's see how close you are....lol
Fall of Adam and Eve........Age of Creation

How does God treat mankind from Genesis chapter 4 to Chapter 7? Age of Pre-Flood?

Noah' Flood........Age of the Flood

Abram --------Age of Post Flood--Pre Law

Moses---------Age of Law

The Crucifixion, Burial and Resurrection All Happened under the 'Age of the LAW'

Pentecost----Fifty days after the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, The Church Age (Age of Grace)began. (Acts 2)


Future AGES= Age of Tribulation.....Post Church Age and Pre Millennium Age

Age of the Millennium ------

One other Item.....Everybody who has been saved has been saved by the Grace of God, in both OT and NT.

A good post you did....Blade

 

[Locutus]

Post # 8,,,were still waiting for any dispy to establish it...I am out side the the camps and it would not be fair for me to speak for you,,,

You might need to rephrase the question soandso - just so there won't be any confusion.

 

[iamsoandso]

They all seem to have disp-appeared.....

"googling it",,watch it will turn into "googling wars", and then in the end when the elect. is off and the water companies cant keep the h2o coming it will boil down to those who wore the pages down in books before the paperless world.lol, watch take the next several posters and "google it" and see if they follow along with google's opinion...

 

[Locutus]

"googling it",,watch it will turn into "googling wars", and then in the end when the elect. is off and the water companies cant keep the h2o coming it will boil down to those who wore the pages down in books before the paperless world.lol, watch take the next several posters and "google it" and see if they follow along with google's opinion...

The question is "what was the "apostles' doctrine" - was it any different to Paul's?


Acts 2:42 They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.