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    There is more but for now this should suffice as pertaining to the end times and those final days.

    Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
    Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
    Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
    Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
    Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
    Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
    Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
    Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
    Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
    Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
    Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
    Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
    Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
    Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
    Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
    Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
    Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
    Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
    Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
    Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
    Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
    Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
    Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
    From the Mouth of our Lord, Jesus Christ, or do you call Him Yeshua?
    Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaumeJ View Post
    There is more but for now this should suffice as pertaining to the end times and those final days.
    The Olivet Discourse (Mt 24, Mk 13, Lk 21) was given to the apostles (and to us) to sum up major worldwide events which would take place until the second coming of Christ. But you will notice that the apostles (in their epistles) spent very little time on end time events. They were more concerned with the edification and perfection of the saints, as should we.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    The Olivet Discourse (Mt 24, Mk 13, Lk 21) was given to the apostles (and to us) to sum up major worldwide events which would take place until the second coming of Christ. But you will notice that the apostles (in their epistles) spent very little time on end time events. They were more concerned with the edification and perfection of the saints, as should we.

    I am so far away from this perfection that seeking it is what I focus on, yet knowing I will never achieve it while in this fleshly body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Depleted View Post
    Why should we focus on End Times? What does it give you that ignoring it wouldn't give you?

    Preparedness? Nope! The whole Bible teaches us to follow God and to accept his will in us, so that is prepared for anything, not just one particular moment that may or may not happen in our life time.

    Really? What is it about End Times that is such a great need?

    I see studying it as a waste of time.
    There is not a single subject nor verse in the bible that is a waste of time to study. That is a very foolish statement.
    Now to spend a majority of one's time on any one subject, no matter what that subject is, may be a poor use of one's time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by star View Post
    While I personally believe the return of Christ may be near, should that be our total focus or should we be busy doing evangelizing, praying, helping those who are lost?
    Both.
    We should continue evangelizing, reminding people their time is short, and remind them we're in the last hours.
    Luke 21
    34“Be on guard, so that your hearts will not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day will not come on you suddenly like a trap; 35for it will come upon all those who dwell on the face of all the earth. 36But keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.

    Anything less is irresponsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by star View Post
    While I personally believe the return of Christ may be near, should that be our total focus or should we be busy doing evangelizing, praying, helping those who are lost?
    Greetings Star,

    Why can't we do everything? We can do all of the above and more while looking for and anticipating the appearing of the Lord to gather his church. Why does what we do in Christ have to be limited? The appearing of our Lord should be our daily hope in the midst of everything that we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellsworth1943 View Post
    There is not a single subject nor verse in the bible that is a waste of time to study. That is a very foolish statement.
    Now to spend a majority of one's time on any one subject, no matter what that subject is, may be a poor use of one's time.
    Ha! Job's friends! Their advice is only good for one purpose -- to teach us what NOT to say.

    Sooo, End Times isn't a waste of time? What do you glean from it that works for you?
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    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Rom. 8:28

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    Yes, you all need to come out of your end daze...

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    Yes I hav been noticing for decades. I did post "there is more."


    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    The Olivet Discourse (Mt 24, Mk 13, Lk 21) was given to the apostles (and to us) to sum up major worldwide events which would take place until the second coming of Christ. But you will notice that the apostles (in their epistles) spent very little time on end time events. They were more concerned with the edification and perfection of the saints, as should we.
    From the Mouth of our Lord, Jesus Christ, or do you call Him Yeshua?
    Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.


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    "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come." (Matthew 24:42). "Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh" (Mark 13:35). The book of Revelation is devoted to the end times, so I think its wise to pay attention. God does not want us to be ignorant of the signs which precede the end. Being unaware of what transpires is important, because there will be "Great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." (Matthew 24:21). Not being awake and alert to what's going down can cause some to lose faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by star View Post
    While I personally believe the return of Christ may be near, should that be our total focus or should we be busy doing evangelizing, praying, helping those who are lost?
    Both,,,,Knowing we are in the near end times convey this to your the people you are helping!
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    Yes I find everything we can learn from the Word of God is meaningful and important. But my point was that can we not get caught up on one particular focus whereas we lose the focus of others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tourist View Post
    It is best to focus on the here and now.
    That kind of outlook will be sure to bring defeat upon you during the dark evil days of the Great Tribulation. The Lord Jesus has instructed us that we should be watching and ready for His Second Coming, for the days preceding it will be like no other time in all of human history, the time when the Mystery of Iniquity works fully. Dan 12v1, Matt 24v15-30, 2Thess 2v1-12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jb View Post
    That kind of outlook will be sure to bring defeat upon you during the dark evil days of the Great Tribulation. The Lord Jesus has instructed us that we should be watching and ready for His Second Coming, for the days preceding it will be like no other time in all of human history, the time when the Mystery of Iniquity works fully. Dan 12v1, Matt 24v15-30, 2Thess 2v1-12.
    Greetings jb,

    Just fyi, the church will not be here upon the earth during those dark evil days known as the Great Tribulation. God is a God of justice. He is very judicial. As I'm sure that you know, the reward for sin is death and God's wrath rests upon those who are accountable. Christ was without sin but paid the penalty for sin and took upon himself God's wrath satisfying these completely. Therefore, for those whose faith is in Christ, the penalty for sin and God's wrath have been completely satisfied. His wrath no longer rests upon the believer because we have been reconciled (brought back into a right relationship) to God through faith in Christ.

    The last seven years will be the day of the Lord, the time of God's wrath, which he will carry out via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, as well with the plagues that the two witnesses will bring. The result of these will decimate the majority of the population of the earth and dismantle all human government.

    As previously stated, because God's wrath has already been satisfied for the believer in Christ, scripture states that we are not appointed to suffer God's coming wrath and that Jesus rescues us from the coming wrath and that He keeps believers out of that coming wrath (Rom.5:9, 1 Thes.1:10, 5:9, Rev.3:10).

    The promise of the Lord's coming to take believer's back to the Father's house as revealed in John 14:1-3 and 1 Thes.4:13-18, must then take place prior to said wrath, which begins with the opening of the first seal.

    Those who will be here during the time of God's wrath, will be those who were not in a right state with God when the Lord comes to gather His church. There will however be those who come to Christ during that time period referred to as great tribulation saints. These are that great number which no man can count from every nation, tribe people and language (Gentiles) who are introduced in Rev.7:9-17. Unbelieving Israel will also be here during that time in fulfillment of that last seven years of the seventy sevens that were decreed upon them, as well as the 144,000 who will come out of Israel.

    During the time of God's wrath, the church will be in heaven where we will appear before Christ at the Bema seat for judgment for things done whether good or bad. During this time is also when the wedding of the Lamb will take place with the bride/church receiving her fine linen, white and clean (Rev.19:6-8). And it is the church who is in view in Rev.19:14 riding on white horses and wearing her fine linen as she follows the Lord out of heaven as He returns to the earth to end the age.

    The next event that all believers should be anticipating and hoping for, is the Lord's appearing to gather the church. Following that will be the revealing of the antichrist and the day of the Lord, the time of God's wrath, which will continue until Christ returns to the earth shortly after the 7th bowl has been poured out which brings God's wrath to its completion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Depleted View Post
    Ha! Job's friends! Their advice is only good for one purpose -- to teach us what NOT to say.

    Sooo, End Times isn't a waste of time? What do you glean from it that works for you?
    I want to know all that is in God's Word. Got a long way to go and at my age will never make it.
    SOOO, no, any study of God's word is a waste of time.
    What have I gleaned that works for me---------
    As Paul states in 2 Tim. 3:1, "in the last days, perilous times shall come".
    But , in the end, those who know Jesus as Savior will be victorious.
    I may never see those perilous times at my age, but I will be victorious.
    Comforting assurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depleted View Post
    Ha! Job's friends! Their advice is only good for one purpose -- to teach us what NOT to say.

    Sooo, End Times isn't a waste of time? What do you glean from it that works for you?

    Does the study of how and why does 4 Billion People dye in a very short period of time seem like a waste of time?
    1 Cor 15:1-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by star View Post
    While I personally believe the return of Christ may be near, should that be our total focus or should we be busy doing evangelizing, praying, helping those who are lost?
    Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. 2 Timothy 4:8
    For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahwatukee View Post
    Greetings jb,

    Just fyi, the church will not be here upon the earth during those dark evil days known as the Great Tribulation...
    The Church most certainly goes through the Great Tribulation as the Scriptures plainly teach.

    2Thess 2v1-3: "Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction."

    "That day" of Our Lord's Coming and our gathering together unto Him, occurs AFTER Antichrist sits in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that he is God, NOT before it. As the Lord Jesus Himself states the same truth, He comes for the Church immediately after the days of the Great Tribulation. Matt 24v15-31.

    John states the same truth in Rev 7v9,10,14 states the same truth:

    "After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

    These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation and washed their robes in the Blood of the Lamb, to "come out" (Greek preposition, "ek") of something you first gave to be in it, they have come out of it, by either being martyred during it, or come through it victoriously and been raptured immediately after the Great Tribulation at the Lord's Second Coming. Matt 24v29-31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jb View Post
    The Church most certainly goes through the Great Tribulation as the Scriptures plainly teach.

    2Thess 2v1-3: "Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction."

    "That day" of Our Lord's Coming and our gathering together unto Him, occurs AFTER Antichrist sits in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that he is God, NOT before it. As the Lord Jesus Himself states the same truth, He comes for the Church immediately after the days of the Great Tribulation. Matt 24v15-31.

    John states the same truth in Rev 7v9,10,14 states the same truth:

    "After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

    These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation and washed their robes in the Blood of the Lamb, to "come out" (Greek preposition, "ek") of something you first gave to be in it, they have come out of it, by either being martyred during it, or come through it victoriously and been raptured immediately after the Great Tribulation at the Lord's Second Coming. Matt 24v29-31.
    Warning----
    Get ready to be corrected in your belief.
    You are about to receive a lesson on what those verses really mean.

    By the way, I agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellsworth1943 View Post
    Warning----
    Get ready to be corrected in your belief.
    You are about to receive a lesson on what those verses really mean.

    By the way, I agree with you.
    Thank you for your support brother, nice to know I'm not alone in this belief... Lol

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