Lord Jesus Christ Removing Your Lampstand

[MessageOfTheCross]

First, I want to make clear that I am not talking about personal salvation. I am not asking if it is possible for God to remove salvation from someone. Instead, I’m asking if its possible for one group of people to cease to be God’s church? Revelation 2:1-7 NKJV


What does removing the lampstand mean?​

 

[OneFaith]

Yes, the Bible says those who know the truth, who have tasted and known that God is good, if they were to leave they can never return- because that would be like crucifing Christ all over again. It is possible for a whole group to do this together. “They abandoned The Faith to follow deceiving spirits.” They still had faith in God, but not in truth. “Must worship in spirit and in truth.” “They worship Me in vain, their doctrine is merely human rules.”

The lampstand is the Holy Spirit- which marks us for salvation. If one of the Godhead is taken from you, they all are. Therefore if the Holy Spirit goes, so does Christ’s blood.

 

[Ariel82]

First, I want to make clear that I am not talking about personal salvation. I am not asking if it is possible for God to remove salvation from someone. Instead, I’m asking if its possible for one group of people to cease to be God’s church? Revelation 2:1-7 NKJV


What does removing the lampstand mean?​

I was always a literal type of person and figured was giving warning to actual angels and their lamppost was blind duty assignments to a certain church...so like a pinkbslip.

As I got older I began to see how it might be symbolic as a local church and mean Gof disbands that group and scatters then like he did the nation of Israel when it rebelled and worshiped idols,

 

[posthuman]

If it's impossible for Christ to be crucified again then it's impossible for someone to crucify Him again.

 

[Johnny_B]

First, I want to make clear that I am not talking about personal salvation. I am not asking if it is possible for God to remove salvation from someone. Instead, I’m asking if its possible for one group of people to cease to be God’s church? Revelation 2:1-7 NKJV


What does removing the lampstand mean?​

Jesus is addressing the angel of the Church 2:1

Psalm 119:105, 103 “Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path......130 The unfolding of your words gives light; it imparts understanding to the simple.”

Proverbs 6:23 “For the commandment is a lamp and the teaching a light, and the reproofs of discipline are the way of life,”

Isaiah 51:4 “Give attention to me, my people, and give ear to me, my nation; for a law will go out from me, and I will set my justice for a light to the peoples.”

II Peter 2:19 “And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts,”

The lampstand or lamp is the Word of God, His commandments, prophetic Word or His law are His standard for us to live by and the teaching of the Word of God, Commandment, prophetic Word or Law is the light that sets His justice for us to follow as His people, the reproofs of discipline are the way of life.

Since Jesus is addressing the angel in verse 2:1 and verse 5, when He addresses the churches or the called in verse 7 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.’”

He will take the lampstand from the angel, since the Word of God, His Commandment, prophetic Word and/or His Law are the lamp that guides us, with the teaching of them being the light of the lamp. He is taking away the authority of God's Word from the angel if he does not repent and the called will go to an angel that has a lampstand to teach them the Word of God, because they have an ear to hear what the Spirit says.

 

[Johnny_B]

Yes, the Bible says those who know the truth, who have tasted and known that God is good, if they were to leave they can never return- because that would be like crucifing Christ all over again. It is possible for a whole group to do this together. “They abandoned The Faith to follow deceiving spirits.” They still had faith in God, but not in truth. “Must worship in spirit and in truth.” “They worship Me in vain, their doctrine is merely human rules.”

The lampstand is the Holy Spirit- which marks us for salvation. If one of the Godhead is taken from you, they all are. Therefore if the Holy Spirit goes, so does Christ’s blood.

Sister you are taking bits and pieces of verses mixing them up to say what you believe, for instance believers do not taste they are made to drink of one Spirit. I Corinthians 12:13

“For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.”

You have about 5 verses mixed up and out of context Sis, can you post the Scriptures that teach these things, please?

 

[OtherWay210]

its pretty self explanatory . The Tribulation of Satan is what this concerns .
Consider the parable, where Christ illustrated believers, as the Body ,Christ being the head .. Matthew 5:30

If a member of the body offend thee, cut it off, because its better they end up in hell alone, rather than drag down the whole body .

False teachings will do it, because it will clash with Gods plans as written . If you cease being a church, its members make it up, they cant be said to have eternal life. Example, Christ said as much about Sardis .

The candlesticks, aka lamp stands, are the churches in revelation


Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

 

[PennEd]

First, I want to make clear that I am not talking about personal salvation. I am not asking if it is possible for God to remove salvation from someone. Instead, I’m asking if its possible for one group of people to cease to be God’s church? Revelation 2:1-7 NKJV


What does removing the lampstand mean?​

Ona side note. ALL of the lampstands are in the Throneroom in Heaven, BEFORE the action and wrath on the Earth starts in Chapter 4. This is good, albeit not conclusive evidence of a Pre-trib rapture for the Church.

Granted Rev. 2:1-7 is speaking pejoratively, and I believe this type of Church will lose their witness to bring others to Christ.

 

[OtherWay210]

The lampstands, are symbols for the churches, which Christ stands in the midst of .
A lampstand, is supposed to have oil in it, to Light , for Truth .

The stuff these churches are doing, is going to end them up in hell not heaven

There is NO rapture in the Bible ...


It is Gods' Holy Spirit Himself, through His elect, which will being Truth to light, during the Trib.

 

[mailmandan]

First, I want to make clear that I am not talking about personal salvation. I am not asking if it is possible for God to remove salvation from someone. Instead, I’m asking if its possible for one group of people to cease to be God’s church? Revelation 2:1-7 NKJV

What does removing the lampstand mean?​

The removal of the lampstand is clearly figurative language. This does not mean that a group of people of the church of Ephesus will lose their salvation, but the church can forfeit its place of light bearing and witness. Ephesus is a city which had become wrapped in the mantle of Islam. The light of the church has indeed been removed there.

 

[Adstar]

First, I want to make clear that I am not talking about personal salvation. I am not asking if it is possible for God to remove salvation from someone. Instead, I’m asking if its possible for one group of people to cease to be God’s church? Revelation 2:1-7 NKJV


What does removing the lampstand mean?​

Well we do see churches and who denominations falling away from the true.. Some members see it and get out of those churches while others forsake the true Gospel and adopt another gospel ( a false one ) So wells without water preachers will lead many into error in the end times.. I believe it is already so..

2 Peter 2: KJV
17 "These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. {18} For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. {19} While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. {20} For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. {21} For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. {22} But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."

Yes it has happened.. Even in the days of Peter it clearly happened.. I have no doubt that it is happening today..

 

[FlyingDove]

Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

(NOTE: I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place. The key good news here is: I"LL REMOVE THE LIGHT OUT OF THIS PLACE.)

The candlestick was the only Light in the Holy place of Tabernacle or Temple. No services could be preformed without its light.

The candlestick is the light (Christ is the light of the world) the oil in the in the candlestick represents the (Holy Spirit) which brings/reveals the light to us. An angel is a messenger, I have read no place in scripture where man brings a message to angels. An angel gives John the revelation. John sends a letter to the messenger/angel of the Church/Assembly. I conclude this to be its leadership/pastor etc.

The Church/Assembly Ephesus is gone/removed. The good news is the candle/light was sent elsewhere. Current headquaters (until marxism preveils) is the USA. Thank you Jesus!

 

[iamsoandso]

First, I want to make clear that I am not talking about personal salvation. I am not asking if it is possible for God to remove salvation from someone. Instead, I’m asking if its possible for one group of people to cease to be God’s church? Revelation 2:1-7 NKJV


What does removing the lampstand mean?​

See Revelation 18:23 and notice this "light of a CANDLE" shall shine NO MORE (so Babylon was a candle and it is removed),,,
The voice of the BRIDEGROOM and of the BRIDE shall be heard no more in thee(so its AFTER the wedding with the groom)...