What can we learn from the life/story of Job?

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Spiritual gifts are gifts not rewards for fasting.,,
 
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Some people fast to gain spiritual power and as it says in the Bible "Your fasting ends in quarreling and strife,
and in striking each other with wicked fists"


The Bible tells us not to let people take us captive by asceticism that does not benefit the spirit but only subjugated the body.

"5 Is this the kind of fast I have chosen,
only a day for people to humble themselves?
Is it only for bowing one’s head like a reed
and for lying in sackcloth and ashes?
Is that what you call a fast,
a day acceptable to the Lord?"
 

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Those scriptures that Ariel posted are some of my favorite. Especially the pointing of the fingers.

But, a fast is from food. Eat of Him while withholding from food.

Am listening to CBN and Robertson just said it heightens your sensibility. That's what I meant about being prepared to receive.

My first fast was three days, and it was powerful. It was the catalyst to more of the gifts. You go higher.



This is what I imagined fasting to be. A heightened sense of the Almighty
 

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Dang if I haven't contributed to derailing my own thread. While fasting is a serious subject, and I have added to discussing it, the topic is what to learn from Job.

I am going to read that book again (I'm in the midst of reading the bible in one year again) and see what I missed.
 

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Fasting is about training our minds to be over our physical bodies., to not think so much of our physical sensibilities. How many of us give into anger and annoyance or other discomforts both physically and mentally? Exercising self control is a good thing and IMO fasting is one way to do that.

When I was younger I fasted often but not for spiritual reasons. But it actually did help me very much. I didn't think so much about my body but thought more about what was right. It helped me cleanse my body and mind of the need for certain foods I thought I had to have.

Fasting also helped me see that my body is actually trained by me and controlled by me. I don't have to let my body control me but I can control it. And discipline is a fruit of the Spirit. "let this mind be in you...."

So I can see the way fasting is a excellent tool for the Christian. Makes perfect and practical sense.
 
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Dang if I haven't contributed to derailing my own thread. While fasting is a serious subject, and I have added to discussing it, the topic is what to learn from Job.

I am going to read that book again (I'm in the midst of reading the bible in one year again) and see what I missed.
I believe the subject of fasting is paitience and Trust.





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To the Church in Philadelphia
7 “To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:

These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. 13 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
 

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When I read the story about Job I thought it sounded just like my life and my attitude. So I already identify with it, cause I’m living it, except the great blessings part.
One day that too will come. Persevere by your faith directed in and on HIM in all circumstances
 
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The story of Job has always been an interesting one for me. What he went through, how he held up, could I hold up in my faith under such circumstances?

Any thoughts?
forget about job what about jesus?what can we learn about his life on earth? read the new testament
 
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forget about job what about jesus?what can we learn about his life on earth? read the new testament
Yes,
Amen...
Blessed is the name of the Lord, forgive us our sins.

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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. 15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17 You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.[/FONT]
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forget about job what about jesus?what can we learn about his life on earth? read the new testament
I will read both . Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ thought it was important enough to quote and use as a tool for instruction, as well as the apostles. Both Testaments are one complete history of how God has planed to save us all . One without the other is incomplete.Where else do we find out what The Lamb of God is or means or what is so important about the names mentioned in the the Gospel according to Mathew . What’s up with the patients of Job ? Who is that Abraham that is mentioned so often . What about the folks called the Jews . Why is it important that Jesus was without sin? What is a sin where did this thing called the Law come from ? All answered in the Old Testament.,and also so important why do we need our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? It’s there too .
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After these incidents, the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying,
"Fear not, Abram; I am your Shield; your reward is exceedingly great." אאַחַ֣ר | הַדְּבָרִ֣ים הָאֵ֗לֶּה הָיָ֤ה דְבַר־יְהֹוָה֙ אֶל־אַבְרָ֔ם בַּמַּֽחֲזֶ֖ה לֵאמֹ֑ר אַל־תִּירָ֣א אַבְרָ֗ם אָֽנֹכִי֙ מָגֵ֣ן לָ֔ךְ שְׂכָֽרְךָ֖ הַרְבֵּ֥ה מְאֹֽד:
2And Abram said, "O Lord God, what will You give me, since I am going childless, and the steward of my household is Eliezer of Damascus?" בוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אַבְרָ֗ם אֲדֹנָ֤י יֱהֹוִה֙ מַה־תִּתֶּן־לִ֔י וְאָֽנֹכִ֖י הוֹלֵ֣ךְ עֲרִירִ֑י וּבֶן־מֶ֣שֶׁק בֵּיתִ֔י ה֖וּא דַּמֶּ֥שֶׂק אֱלִיעֶֽזֶר:
3And Abram said, "Behold, You have given me no seed, and behold, one of my household will inherit me." גוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אַבְרָ֔ם הֵ֣ן לִ֔י לֹ֥א נָתַ֖תָּה זָ֑רַע וְהִנֵּ֥ה בֶן־בֵּיתִ֖י יוֹרֵ֥שׁ אֹתִֽי:
4And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying,
"This one will not inherit you, but the one who will spring from your innards-he will inherit you." דוְהִנֵּ֨ה דְבַר־יְהֹוָ֤ה אֵלָיו֙ לֵאמֹ֔ר לֹ֥א יִירָֽשְׁךָ֖ זֶ֑ה כִּי־אִם֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר יֵצֵ֣א מִמֵּעֶ֔יךָ ה֖וּא יִֽירָשֶֽׁךָ:
5And He took him outside, and He said,
"Please look heavenward and count the stars, if you are able to count them." And He said to him, "So will be your seed." הוַיּוֹצֵ֨א אֹת֜וֹ הַח֗וּצָה וַיֹּ֨אמֶר֙ הַבֶּט־נָ֣א הַשָּׁמַ֔יְמָה וּסְפֹר֙ הַכּ֣וֹכָבִ֔ים אִם־תּוּכַ֖ל לִסְפֹּ֣ר אֹתָ֑ם וַיֹּ֣אמֶר ל֔וֹ כֹּ֥ה יִֽהְיֶ֖ה זַרְעֶֽךָ:
6And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him as righteousness. ווְהֶֽאֱמִ֖ן בַּֽיהֹוָ֑ה וַיַּחְשְׁבֶ֥הָ לּ֖וֹ צְדָקָֽה:
7And He said to him,
"I am the Lord, Who brought you forth from Ur of the Chaldees, to give you this land to inherit it." זוַיֹּ֖אמֶר אֵלָ֑יו אֲנִ֣י יְהֹוָ֗ה אֲשֶׁ֤ר הֽוֹצֵאתִ֨יךָ֙ מֵא֣וּר כַּשְׂדִּ֔ים לָ֧תֶת לְךָ֛ אֶת־הָאָ֥רֶץ הַזֹּ֖את לְרִשְׁתָּֽהּ:
8And he said, "O Lord God, how will I know that I will inherit it?" חוַיֹּאמַ֑ר אֲדֹנָ֣י יֱהֹוִ֔ה בַּמָּ֥ה אֵדַ֖ע כִּ֥י אִֽירָשֶֽׁנָּה:
9And He said to him,
"Take for Me three heifers and three goats and three rams, and a turtle dove and a young bird." טוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֵלָ֗יו קְחָ֥ה לִי֙ עֶגְלָ֣ה מְשֻׁלֶּ֔שֶׁת וְעֵ֥ז מְשֻׁלֶּ֖שֶׁת וְאַ֣יִל מְשֻׁלָּ֑שׁ וְתֹ֖ר וְגוֹזָֽל:
10And he took for Him all these, and he divided them in the middle, and he placed each part opposite its mate, but he did not divide the birds. יוַיִּקַּח־ל֣וֹ אֶת־כָּל־אֵ֗לֶּה וַיְבַתֵּ֤ר אֹתָם֙ בַּתָּ֔וֶךְ וַיִּתֵּ֥ן אִֽישׁ־בִּתְר֖וֹ לִקְרַ֣את רֵעֵ֑הוּ וְאֶת־הַצִּפֹּ֖ר לֹ֥א בָתָֽר:
11And the birds of prey descended upon the carcasses, and Abram drove them away. יאוַיֵּ֥רֶד הָעַ֖יִט עַל־הַפְּגָרִ֑ים וַיַּשֵּׁ֥ב אֹתָ֖ם אַבְרָֽם:
12Now the sun was ready to set, and a deep sleep fell upon Abram, and behold, a fright, a great darkness was falling upon him. יבוַיְהִ֤י הַשֶּׁ֨מֶשׁ֙ לָב֔וֹא וְתַרְדֵּמָ֖ה נָֽפְלָ֣ה עַל־אַבְרָ֑ם וְהִנֵּ֥ה אֵימָ֛ה חֲשֵׁכָ֥ה גְדֹלָ֖ה נֹפֶ֥לֶת עָלָֽיו:
13And He said to Abram,
"You shall surely know that your seed will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and they will enslave them and oppress them, for four hundred years. יגוַיֹּ֣אמֶר לְאַבְרָ֗ם יָדֹ֨עַ תֵּדַ֜ע כִּי־גֵ֣ר | יִֽהְיֶ֣ה זַרְעֲךָ֗ בְּאֶ֨רֶץ֙ לֹ֣א לָהֶ֔ם וַֽעֲבָד֖וּם וְעִנּ֣וּ אֹתָ֑ם אַרְבַּ֥ע מֵא֖וֹת שָׁנָֽה:
14And also the nation that they will serve will I judge, and afterwards they will go forth with great possessions.ידוְגַ֧ם אֶת־הַגּ֛וֹי אֲשֶׁ֥ר יַֽעֲבֹ֖דוּ דָּ֣ן אָנֹ֑כִי וְאַֽחֲרֵי־כֵ֥ן יֵֽצְא֖וּ בִּרְכֻ֥שׁ גָּדֽוֹל:
15But you will come to your forefathers in peace; you will be buried in a good old age. טווְאַתָּ֛ה תָּב֥וֹא אֶל־אֲבֹתֶ֖יךָ בְּשָׁל֑וֹם תִּקָּבֵ֖ר בְּשֵׂיבָ֥ה טוֹבָֽה:
16And the fourth generation will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites will not be complete until then."טזוְד֥וֹר רְבִיעִ֖י יָשׁ֣וּבוּ הֵ֑נָּה כִּ֧י לֹֽא־שָׁלֵ֛ם עֲוֹ֥ן הָֽאֱמֹרִ֖י עַד־הֵֽנָּה:
17Now it came to pass that the sun had set, and it was dark, and behold, a smoking furnace and a fire brand, which passed between these parts. יזוַיְהִ֤י הַשֶּׁ֨מֶשׁ֙ בָּ֔אָה וַֽעֲלָטָ֖ה הָיָ֑ה וְהִנֵּ֨ה תַנּ֤וּר עָשָׁן֙ וְלַפִּ֣יד אֵ֔שׁ אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָבַ֔ר בֵּ֖ין הַגְּזָרִ֥ים הָאֵֽלֶּה:
18On that day, the Lord formed a covenant with Abram, saying,
"To your seed I have given this land, from the river of Egypt until the great river, the Euphrates river. יחבַּיּ֣וֹם הַה֗וּא כָּרַ֧ת יְהֹוָ֛ה אֶת־אַבְרָ֖ם בְּרִ֣ית לֵאמֹ֑ר לְזַרְעֲךָ֗ נָתַ֨תִּי֙ אֶת־הָאָ֣רֶץ הַזֹּ֔את מִנְּהַ֣ר מִצְרַ֔יִם עַד־הַנָּהָ֥ר הַגָּדֹ֖ל נְהַר־פְּרָֽת:
19The Kenites, the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, יטאֶת־הַקֵּינִי֙ וְאֶת־הַקְּנִזִּ֔י וְאֵ֖ת הַקַּדְמֹנִֽי:
20And the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Rephaim, כוְאֶת־הַֽחִתִּ֥י וְאֶת־הַפְּרִזִּ֖י וְאֶת־הָֽרְפָאִֽים:
21And the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Girga****es and the Jebusites." כאוְאֶת־הָֽאֱמֹרִי֙ וְאֶת־הַכְּנַֽעֲנִ֔י וְאֶת־הַגִּרְגָּשִׁ֖י וְאֶת־הַיְבוּסִֽי:

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And He said,
"Do not draw near here. Take your shoes off your feet, because the place upon which you stand is holy soil." הוַיֹּ֖אמֶר אַל־תִּקְרַ֣ב הֲלֹ֑ם שַׁל־נְעָלֶ֨יךָ֙ מֵעַ֣ל רַגְלֶ֔יךָ כִּ֣י הַמָּק֗וֹם אֲשֶׁ֤ר אַתָּה֙ עוֹמֵ֣ד עָלָ֔יו אַדְמַת־קֹ֖דֶשׁ הֽוּא:
6And He said,
"I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face because he was afraid to look toward God. ווַיֹּ֗אמֶר אָֽנֹכִי֙ אֱלֹהֵ֣י אָבִ֔יךָ אֱלֹהֵ֧י אַבְרָהָ֛ם אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִצְחָ֖ק וֵֽאלֹהֵ֣י יַֽעֲקֹ֑ב וַיַּסְתֵּ֤ר משֶׁה֙ פָּנָ֔יו כִּ֣י יָרֵ֔א מֵֽהַבִּ֖יט אֶל־הָֽאֱלֹהִֽים:
7And the Lord said,
"I have surely seen the affliction of My people who are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry because of their slave drivers, for I know their pains. זוַיֹּ֣אמֶר יְהֹוָ֔ה רָאֹ֥ה רָאִ֛יתִי אֶת־עֳנִ֥י עַמִּ֖י אֲשֶׁ֣ר בְּמִצְרָ֑יִם וְאֶת־צַֽעֲקָתָ֤ם שָׁמַ֨עְתִּי֙ מִפְּנֵ֣י נֹֽגְשָׂ֔יו כִּ֥י יָדַ֖עְתִּי אֶת־מַכְאֹבָֽיו:
8I have descended to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up from that land, to a good and spacious land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivvites, and the Jebusites. חוָֽאֵרֵ֞ד לְהַצִּיל֣וֹ | מִיַּ֣ד מִצְרַ֗יִם וּלְהַֽעֲלֹתוֹ֘ מִן־הָאָ֣רֶץ הַהִוא֒ אֶל־אֶ֤רֶץ טוֹבָה֙ וּרְחָבָ֔ה אֶל־אֶ֛רֶץ זָבַ֥ת חָלָ֖ב וּדְבָ֑שׁ אֶל־מְק֤וֹם הַכְּנַֽעֲנִי֙ וְהַ֣חִתִּ֔י וְהָֽאֱמֹרִי֙ וְהַפְּרִזִּ֔י וְהַֽחִוִּ֖י וְהַיְבוּסִֽי:
9And now, behold, the cry of the children of Israel has come to Me, and I have also seen the oppression that the Egyptians are oppressing them. טוְעַתָּ֕ה הִנֵּ֛ה צַֽעֲקַ֥ת בְּנֵֽי־יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל בָּ֣אָה אֵלָ֑י וְגַם־רָאִ֨יתִי֙ אֶת־הַלַּ֔חַץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר מִצְרַ֖יִם לֹֽחֲצִ֥ים אֹתָֽם:
10So now come, and I will send you to Pharaoh, and take My people, the children of Israel, out of Egypt." יוְעַתָּ֣ה לְכָ֔ה וְאֶשְׁלָֽחֲךָ֖ אֶל־פַּרְעֹ֑ה וְהוֹצֵ֛א אֶת־עַמִּ֥י בְנֵֽי־יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מִמִּצְרָֽיִם:


And it was when Joshua was in Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and saw, and, behold, a man was standing opposite him with his sword drawn in his hand; and Joshua went to him, and said to him, Are you for us, or for our adversaries? יגוַיְהִ֗י בִּֽהְי֣וֹת יְהוֹשֻׁ֘עַ֘ בִּֽירִיחוֹ֒ וַיִּשָּׂ֚א עֵינָיו֙ וַיַּ֔רְא וְהִנֵּה־אִישׁ֙ עֹמֵ֣ד לְנֶגְדּ֔וֹ וְחַרְבּ֥וֹ שְׁלוּפָ֖ה בְּיָד֑וֹ וַיֵּ֨לֶךְ יְהוֹשֻׁ֚עַ אֵלָיו֙ וַיֹּ֣אמֶר ל֔וֹ הֲלָ֥נוּ אַתָּ֖ה אִם־לְצָרֵֽינוּ:
14And he said,
No, but I am the captain of the host of the Lord; I have now come.

And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and prostrated himself, and said to him, What does my lord say to his servant? ידוַיֹּ֣אמֶר | לֹ֗א כִּ֛י אֲנִ֥י שַׂר־צְבָֽא־יְהֹוָ֖ה עַתָּ֣ה בָ֑אתִי וַיִּפֹּל֩ יְהוֹשֻׁ֨עַ אֶל־פָּנָ֥יו אַ֙רְצָה֙ וַיִּשְׁתָּ֔חוּ וַיֹּ֣אמֶר ל֔וֹ מָ֥ה אֲדֹנִ֖י מְדַבֵּ֥ר אֶל־עַבְדּֽוֹ:
15And the captain of the Lord's host said to Joshua,

Remove your shoe from your foot; for the place upon which you stand is holy. And Joshua did so. טווַיֹּ֩אמֶר֩ שַׂר־צְבָ֨א יְהֹוָ֜ה אֶל־יְהוֹשֻׁ֗עַ שַׁל־נַֽעַלְךָ֙ מֵעַ֣ל רַגְלֶ֔ךָ כִּ֣י הַמָּק֗וֹם אֲשֶׁ֥ר אַתָּ֛ה עֹמֵ֥ד עָלָ֖יו קֹ֣דֶשׁ ה֑וּא וַיַּ֥עַשׂ יְהוֹשֻׁ֖עַ כֵּֽן:

Trust and patience

Then Job replied and said, אוַיַּ֥עַן אִיּ֗וֹב וַיֹּֽאמַר:
2"Indeed, I know that it is so, but why should a man be righteous with God? באָמְנָם יָדַ֣עְתִּי כִּי־כֵ֑ן וּמַה־יִּצְדַּ֖ק אֱנ֣וֹשׁ עִם־אֵֽל:
3If he would wish to contend with Him He would not answer him one out of a thousand. גאִם־יַ֖חְפֹּץ לָרִ֣יב עִמּ֑וֹ לֹֽא־יַֽ֜עֲנֶ֗נּוּ אַחַ֥ת מִנִּי־אָֽלֶף:
4He is wise in heart and mighty in strength; who hardened [his heart] against Him and remained whole? דחֲכַ֣ם לֵ֖בָב וְאַמִּ֣יץ כֹּ֑חַ מִי־הִקְשָׁ֥ה אֵ֜לָ֗יו וַיִּשְׁלָֽם:
5He Who moved mountains but they knew not that He had overturned them in His wrath; ההַמַּעְתִּ֣יק הָ֖רִים וְלֹ֣א יָדָ֑עוּ אֲשֶׁ֖ר הֲפָכָ֣ם בְּאַפּֽוֹ:
6He Who causes the earth to quake from its place, and its pillars shudder; והַמַּרְגִּ֣יז אֶ֖רֶץ מִמְּקוֹמָ֑הּ וְ֜עַמּוּדֶ֗יהָ יִתְפַּלָּצֽוּן:
7He Who spoke to the sun and it did not shine, and He sealed up the stars; זהָֽאֹמֵ֣ר לַ֖חֶרֶס וְלֹ֣א יִזְרָ֑ח וּבְעַ֖ד כּֽוֹכָבִ֣ים יַחְתֹּֽם:
8He Who alone stretched out the heavens and treads on the high places of the sea; חנֹטֶ֣ה שָׁמַ֣יִם לְבַדּ֑וֹ וְ֜דוֹרֵ֗ךְ עַל־בָּֽמֳתֵי־יָֽם:
9He Who made the Bear, Orion, and the Pleiades, and the chambers of the south; טעֹֽשֶׂה־עָ֖שׁ כְּסִ֥יל וְכִימָ֗ה וְחַדְרֵ֥י תֵמָֽן:
10He Who performs great deeds without limit, and wonders until they have no number יעֹשֶׂ֣ה גְ֖דֹלוֹת עַד־אֵ֣ין חֵ֑קֶר וְנִפְלָא֗וֹת עַד־אֵ֥ין מִסְפָּֽר:
11Behold, He goes by me but I do not see [Him]; and He passes but I do not perceive Him. יאהֵ֚ן יַֽעֲבֹ֣ר עָ֖לַי וְלֹ֣א אֶרְאֶ֑ה וְ֜יַֽחֲלֹ֗ף וְֽלֹא־אָבִ֥ין לֽוֹ:
12Behold, He strikes suddenly, and who can hold Him back; who will say to Him, 'What are You doing?' יבהֵ֣ן יַ֖חְתֹּף מִ֣י יְשִׁיבֶ֑נּוּ מִֽי־יֹאמַ֥ר אֵ֜לָ֗יו מַֽה־תַּֽעֲשֶֽׂה:
13God will not hold back His wrath; all the helpers of Rahab stoop under Him. יגאֱלוֹהַּ לֹֽא־יָשִׁ֣יב אַפּ֑וֹ תַּחְתָּ֥יו (כתיב תַּחְתָּ֥ו) שָֽׁ֜חֲח֗וּ עֹ֣זְרֵי רָֽהַב:
 
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After these incidents, the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying,
"Fear not, Abram; I am your Shield; your reward is exceedingly great." אאַחַ֣ר | הַדְּבָרִ֣ים הָאֵ֗לֶּה הָיָ֤ה דְבַר־יְהֹוָה֙ אֶל־אַבְרָ֔ם בַּמַּֽחֲזֶ֖ה לֵאמֹ֑ר אַל־תִּירָ֣א אַבְרָ֗ם אָֽנֹכִי֙ מָגֵ֣ן לָ֔ךְ שְׂכָֽרְךָ֖ הַרְבֵּ֥ה מְאֹֽד:
2And Abram said, "O Lord God, what will You give me, since I am going childless, and the steward of my household is Eliezer of Damascus?" בוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אַבְרָ֗ם אֲדֹנָ֤י יֱהֹוִה֙ מַה־תִּתֶּן־לִ֔י וְאָֽנֹכִ֖י הוֹלֵ֣ךְ עֲרִירִ֑י וּבֶן־מֶ֣שֶׁק בֵּיתִ֔י ה֖וּא דַּמֶּ֥שֶׂק אֱלִיעֶֽזֶר:
3And Abram said, "Behold, You have given me no seed, and behold, one of my household will inherit me." גוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אַבְרָ֔ם הֵ֣ן לִ֔י לֹ֥א נָתַ֖תָּה זָ֑רַע וְהִנֵּ֥ה בֶן־בֵּיתִ֖י יוֹרֵ֥שׁ אֹתִֽי:
4And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying,
"This one will not inherit you, but the one who will spring from your innards-he will inherit you." דוְהִנֵּ֨ה דְבַר־יְהֹוָ֤ה אֵלָיו֙ לֵאמֹ֔ר לֹ֥א יִירָֽשְׁךָ֖ זֶ֑ה כִּי־אִם֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר יֵצֵ֣א מִמֵּעֶ֔יךָ ה֖וּא יִֽירָשֶֽׁךָ:
5And He took him outside, and He said,
"Please look heavenward and count the stars, if you are able to count them." And He said to him, "So will be your seed." הוַיּוֹצֵ֨א אֹת֜וֹ הַח֗וּצָה וַיֹּ֨אמֶר֙ הַבֶּט־נָ֣א הַשָּׁמַ֔יְמָה וּסְפֹר֙ הַכּ֣וֹכָבִ֔ים אִם־תּוּכַ֖ל לִסְפֹּ֣ר אֹתָ֑ם וַיֹּ֣אמֶר ל֔וֹ כֹּ֥ה יִֽהְיֶ֖ה זַרְעֶֽךָ:
6And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him as righteousness. ווְהֶֽאֱמִ֖ן בַּֽיהֹוָ֑ה וַיַּחְשְׁבֶ֥הָ לּ֖וֹ צְדָקָֽה:
7And He said to him,
"I am the Lord, Who brought you forth from Ur of the Chaldees, to give you this land to inherit it." זוַיֹּ֖אמֶר אֵלָ֑יו אֲנִ֣י יְהֹוָ֗ה אֲשֶׁ֤ר הֽוֹצֵאתִ֨יךָ֙ מֵא֣וּר כַּשְׂדִּ֔ים לָ֧תֶת לְךָ֛ אֶת־הָאָ֥רֶץ הַזֹּ֖את לְרִשְׁתָּֽהּ:
8And he said, "O Lord God, how will I know that I will inherit it?" חוַיֹּאמַ֑ר אֲדֹנָ֣י יֱהֹוִ֔ה בַּמָּ֥ה אֵדַ֖ע כִּ֥י אִֽירָשֶֽׁנָּה:
9And He said to him,
"Take for Me three heifers and three goats and three rams, and a turtle dove and a young bird." טוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֵלָ֗יו קְחָ֥ה לִי֙ עֶגְלָ֣ה מְשֻׁלֶּ֔שֶׁת וְעֵ֥ז מְשֻׁלֶּ֖שֶׁת וְאַ֣יִל מְשֻׁלָּ֑שׁ וְתֹ֖ר וְגוֹזָֽל:
10And he took for Him all these, and he divided them in the middle, and he placed each part opposite its mate, but he did not divide the birds. יוַיִּקַּח־ל֣וֹ אֶת־כָּל־אֵ֗לֶּה וַיְבַתֵּ֤ר אֹתָם֙ בַּתָּ֔וֶךְ וַיִּתֵּ֥ן אִֽישׁ־בִּתְר֖וֹ לִקְרַ֣את רֵעֵ֑הוּ וְאֶת־הַצִּפֹּ֖ר לֹ֥א בָתָֽר:
11And the birds of prey descended upon the carcasses, and Abram drove them away. יאוַיֵּ֥רֶד הָעַ֖יִט עַל־הַפְּגָרִ֑ים וַיַּשֵּׁ֥ב אֹתָ֖ם אַבְרָֽם:
12Now the sun was ready to set, and a deep sleep fell upon Abram, and behold, a fright, a great darkness was falling upon him. יבוַיְהִ֤י הַשֶּׁ֨מֶשׁ֙ לָב֔וֹא וְתַרְדֵּמָ֖ה נָֽפְלָ֣ה עַל־אַבְרָ֑ם וְהִנֵּ֥ה אֵימָ֛ה חֲשֵׁכָ֥ה גְדֹלָ֖ה נֹפֶ֥לֶת עָלָֽיו:
13And He said to Abram,
"You shall surely know that your seed will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and they will enslave them and oppress them, for four hundred years. יגוַיֹּ֣אמֶר לְאַבְרָ֗ם יָדֹ֨עַ תֵּדַ֜ע כִּי־גֵ֣ר | יִֽהְיֶ֣ה זַרְעֲךָ֗ בְּאֶ֨רֶץ֙ לֹ֣א לָהֶ֔ם וַֽעֲבָד֖וּם וְעִנּ֣וּ אֹתָ֑ם אַרְבַּ֥ע מֵא֖וֹת שָׁנָֽה:
14And also the nation that they will serve will I judge, and afterwards they will go forth with great possessions.ידוְגַ֧ם אֶת־הַגּ֛וֹי אֲשֶׁ֥ר יַֽעֲבֹ֖דוּ דָּ֣ן אָנֹ֑כִי וְאַֽחֲרֵי־כֵ֥ן יֵֽצְא֖וּ בִּרְכֻ֥שׁ גָּדֽוֹל:
15But you will come to your forefathers in peace; you will be buried in a good old age. טווְאַתָּ֛ה תָּב֥וֹא אֶל־אֲבֹתֶ֖יךָ בְּשָׁל֑וֹם תִּקָּבֵ֖ר בְּשֵׂיבָ֥ה טוֹבָֽה:
16And the fourth generation will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites will not be complete until then."טזוְד֥וֹר רְבִיעִ֖י יָשׁ֣וּבוּ הֵ֑נָּה כִּ֧י לֹֽא־שָׁלֵ֛ם עֲוֹ֥ן הָֽאֱמֹרִ֖י עַד־הֵֽנָּה:
17Now it came to pass that the sun had set, and it was dark, and behold, a smoking furnace and a fire brand, which passed between these parts. יזוַיְהִ֤י הַשֶּׁ֨מֶשׁ֙ בָּ֔אָה וַֽעֲלָטָ֖ה הָיָ֑ה וְהִנֵּ֨ה תַנּ֤וּר עָשָׁן֙ וְלַפִּ֣יד אֵ֔שׁ אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָבַ֔ר בֵּ֖ין הַגְּזָרִ֥ים הָאֵֽלֶּה:
18On that day, the Lord formed a covenant with Abram, saying,
"To your seed I have given this land, from the river of Egypt until the great river, the Euphrates river. יחבַּיּ֣וֹם הַה֗וּא כָּרַ֧ת יְהֹוָ֛ה אֶת־אַבְרָ֖ם בְּרִ֣ית לֵאמֹ֑ר לְזַרְעֲךָ֗ נָתַ֨תִּי֙ אֶת־הָאָ֣רֶץ הַזֹּ֔את מִנְּהַ֣ר מִצְרַ֔יִם עַד־הַנָּהָ֥ר הַגָּדֹ֖ל נְהַר־פְּרָֽת:
19The Kenites, the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, יטאֶת־הַקֵּינִי֙ וְאֶת־הַקְּנִזִּ֔י וְאֵ֖ת הַקַּדְמֹנִֽי:
20And the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Rephaim, כוְאֶת־הַֽחִתִּ֥י וְאֶת־הַפְּרִזִּ֖י וְאֶת־הָֽרְפָאִֽים:
21And the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Girga****es and the Jebusites." כאוְאֶת־הָֽאֱמֹרִי֙ וְאֶת־הַכְּנַֽעֲנִ֔י וְאֶת־הַגִּרְגָּשִׁ֖י וְאֶת־הַיְבוּסִֽי:
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Trust

And He said,
"Do not draw near here. Take your shoes off your feet, because the place upon which you stand is holy soil." הוַיֹּ֖אמֶר אַל־תִּקְרַ֣ב הֲלֹ֑ם שַׁל־נְעָלֶ֨יךָ֙ מֵעַ֣ל רַגְלֶ֔יךָ כִּ֣י הַמָּק֗וֹם אֲשֶׁ֤ר אַתָּה֙ עוֹמֵ֣ד עָלָ֔יו אַדְמַת־קֹ֖דֶשׁ הֽוּא:
6And He said,
"I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face because he was afraid to look toward God. ווַיֹּ֗אמֶר אָֽנֹכִי֙ אֱלֹהֵ֣י אָבִ֔יךָ אֱלֹהֵ֧י אַבְרָהָ֛ם אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִצְחָ֖ק וֵֽאלֹהֵ֣י יַֽעֲקֹ֑ב וַיַּסְתֵּ֤ר משֶׁה֙ פָּנָ֔יו כִּ֣י יָרֵ֔א מֵֽהַבִּ֖יט אֶל־הָֽאֱלֹהִֽים:
7And the Lord said,
"I have surely seen the affliction of My people who are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry because of their slave drivers, for I know their pains. זוַיֹּ֣אמֶר יְהֹוָ֔ה רָאֹ֥ה רָאִ֛יתִי אֶת־עֳנִ֥י עַמִּ֖י אֲשֶׁ֣ר בְּמִצְרָ֑יִם וְאֶת־צַֽעֲקָתָ֤ם שָׁמַ֨עְתִּי֙ מִפְּנֵ֣י נֹֽגְשָׂ֔יו כִּ֥י יָדַ֖עְתִּי אֶת־מַכְאֹבָֽיו:
8I have descended to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up from that land, to a good and spacious land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivvites, and the Jebusites. חוָֽאֵרֵ֞ד לְהַצִּיל֣וֹ | מִיַּ֣ד מִצְרַ֗יִם וּלְהַֽעֲלֹתוֹ֘ מִן־הָאָ֣רֶץ הַהִוא֒ אֶל־אֶ֤רֶץ טוֹבָה֙ וּרְחָבָ֔ה אֶל־אֶ֛רֶץ זָבַ֥ת חָלָ֖ב וּדְבָ֑שׁ אֶל־מְק֤וֹם הַכְּנַֽעֲנִי֙ וְהַ֣חִתִּ֔י וְהָֽאֱמֹרִי֙ וְהַפְּרִזִּ֔י וְהַֽחִוִּ֖י וְהַיְבוּסִֽי:
9And now, behold, the cry of the children of Israel has come to Me, and I have also seen the oppression that the Egyptians are oppressing them. טוְעַתָּ֕ה הִנֵּ֛ה צַֽעֲקַ֥ת בְּנֵֽי־יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל בָּ֣אָה אֵלָ֑י וְגַם־רָאִ֨יתִי֙ אֶת־הַלַּ֔חַץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר מִצְרַ֖יִם לֹֽחֲצִ֥ים אֹתָֽם:
10So now come, and I will send you to Pharaoh, and take My people, the children of Israel, out of Egypt." יוְעַתָּ֣ה לְכָ֔ה וְאֶשְׁלָֽחֲךָ֖ אֶל־פַּרְעֹ֑ה וְהוֹצֵ֛א אֶת־עַמִּ֥י בְנֵֽי־יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מִמִּצְרָֽיִם:


And it was when Joshua was in Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and saw, and, behold, a man was standing opposite him with his sword drawn in his hand; and Joshua went to him, and said to him, Are you for us, or for our adversaries? יגוַיְהִ֗י בִּֽהְי֣וֹת יְהוֹשֻׁ֘עַ֘ בִּֽירִיחוֹ֒ וַיִּשָּׂ֚א עֵינָיו֙ וַיַּ֔רְא וְהִנֵּה־אִישׁ֙ עֹמֵ֣ד לְנֶגְדּ֔וֹ וְחַרְבּ֥וֹ שְׁלוּפָ֖ה בְּיָד֑וֹ וַיֵּ֨לֶךְ יְהוֹשֻׁ֚עַ אֵלָיו֙ וַיֹּ֣אמֶר ל֔וֹ הֲלָ֥נוּ אַתָּ֖ה אִם־לְצָרֵֽינוּ:
14And he said,
No, but I am the captain of the host of the Lord; I have now come.

And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and prostrated himself, and said to him, What does my lord say to his servant? ידוַיֹּ֣אמֶר | לֹ֗א כִּ֛י אֲנִ֥י שַׂר־צְבָֽא־יְהֹוָ֖ה עַתָּ֣ה בָ֑אתִי וַיִּפֹּל֩ יְהוֹשֻׁ֨עַ אֶל־פָּנָ֥יו אַ֙רְצָה֙ וַיִּשְׁתָּ֔חוּ וַיֹּ֣אמֶר ל֔וֹ מָ֥ה אֲדֹנִ֖י מְדַבֵּ֥ר אֶל־עַבְדּֽוֹ:
15And the captain of the Lord's host said to Joshua,

Remove your shoe from your foot; for the place upon which you stand is holy. And Joshua did so. טווַיֹּ֩אמֶר֩ שַׂר־צְבָ֨א יְהֹוָ֜ה אֶל־יְהוֹשֻׁ֗עַ שַׁל־נַֽעַלְךָ֙ מֵעַ֣ל רַגְלֶ֔ךָ כִּ֣י הַמָּק֗וֹם אֲשֶׁ֥ר אַתָּ֛ה עֹמֵ֥ד עָלָ֖יו קֹ֣דֶשׁ ה֑וּא וַיַּ֥עַשׂ יְהוֹשֻׁ֖עַ כֵּֽן:

Trust and patience

Then Job replied and said, אוַיַּ֥עַן אִיּ֗וֹב וַיֹּֽאמַר:
2"Indeed, I know that it is so, but why should a man be righteous with God? באָמְנָם יָדַ֣עְתִּי כִּי־כֵ֑ן וּמַה־יִּצְדַּ֖ק אֱנ֣וֹשׁ עִם־אֵֽל:
3If he would wish to contend with Him He would not answer him one out of a thousand. גאִם־יַ֖חְפֹּץ לָרִ֣יב עִמּ֑וֹ לֹֽא־יַֽ֜עֲנֶ֗נּוּ אַחַ֥ת מִנִּי־אָֽלֶף:

4He is wise in heart and mighty in strength; who hardened [his heart] against Him and remained whole? דחֲכַ֣ם לֵ֖בָב וְאַמִּ֣יץ כֹּ֑חַ מִי־הִקְשָׁ֥ה אֵ֜לָ֗יו וַיִּשְׁלָֽם:

5He Who moved mountains but they knew not that He had overturned them in His wrath; ההַמַּעְתִּ֣יק הָ֖רִים וְלֹ֣א יָדָ֑עוּ אֲשֶׁ֖ר הֲפָכָ֣ם בְּאַפּֽוֹ:
6He Who causes the earth to quake from its place, and its pillars shudder; והַמַּרְגִּ֣יז אֶ֖רֶץ מִמְּקוֹמָ֑הּ וְ֜עַמּוּדֶ֗יהָ יִתְפַּלָּצֽוּן:
7He Who spoke to the sun and it did not shine, and He sealed up the stars; זהָֽאֹמֵ֣ר לַ֖חֶרֶס וְלֹ֣א יִזְרָ֑ח וּבְעַ֖ד כּֽוֹכָבִ֣ים יַחְתֹּֽם:
8He Who alone stretched out the heavens and treads on the high places of the sea; חנֹטֶ֣ה שָׁמַ֣יִם לְבַדּ֑וֹ וְ֜דוֹרֵ֗ךְ עַל־בָּֽמֳתֵי־יָֽם:
9He Who made the Bear, Orion, and the Pleiades, and the chambers of the south; טעֹֽשֶׂה־עָ֖שׁ כְּסִ֥יל וְכִימָ֗ה וְחַדְרֵ֥י תֵמָֽן:
10He Who performs great deeds without limit, and wonders until they have no number יעֹשֶׂ֣ה גְ֖דֹלוֹת עַד־אֵ֣ין חֵ֑קֶר וְנִפְלָא֗וֹת עַד־אֵ֥ין מִסְפָּֽר:
11Behold, He goes by me but I do not see [Him]; and He passes but I do not perceive Him. יאהֵ֚ן יַֽעֲבֹ֣ר עָ֖לַי וְלֹ֣א אֶרְאֶ֑ה וְ֜יַֽחֲלֹ֗ף וְֽלֹא־אָבִ֥ין לֽוֹ:
12Behold, He strikes suddenly, and who can hold Him back; who will say to Him, 'What are You doing?' יבהֵ֣ן יַ֖חְתֹּף מִ֣י יְשִׁיבֶ֑נּוּ מִֽי־יֹאמַ֥ר אֵ֜לָ֗יו מַֽה־תַּֽעֲשֶֽׂה:

13God will not hold back His wrath; all the helpers of Rahab stoop under Him. יגאֱלוֹהַּ לֹֽא־יָשִׁ֣יב אַפּ֑וֹ תַּחְתָּ֥יו (כתיב תַּחְתָּ֥ו) שָֽׁ֜חֲח֗וּ עֹ֣זְרֵי רָֽהַב:




Evening wisdom
trust and patience
He is wise in heart and mighty in strength; who hardened [his heart] against Him and remained whole?

Ephesians 621st Century King James Version (KJ21)
6 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.

2 “Honor thy father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise:


3 “that it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.”

4 And ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath, but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

5 Servants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ,

6 not with eyeservice as menpleasers, but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart,

7 with good will doing service, as to the Lord and not to men,


8 knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive from the Lord, whether he be bond or free.

9 And ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening, knowing that your Master also is in Heaven; neither is there respect of persons with Him.

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.

11 Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Therefore, take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day and, having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness,

15 and your feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of peace.

16 Above all, take the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God,

18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.

19 And pray for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the Gospel,

20 for which I am an ambassador in bonds, that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

21 But that ye also may know my affairs and how I do, Tychicus, a beloved brother and faithful minister in the Lord, shall make known to you all things.

22 I have sent him unto you for the same purpose, that ye might know our affairs, and that he might comfort your hearts.

23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

24 Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity.
 
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After these incidents, the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying,
"Fear not, Abram; I am your Shield; your reward is exceedingly great." אאַחַ֣ר | הַדְּבָרִ֣ים הָאֵ֗לֶּה הָיָ֤ה דְבַר־יְהֹוָה֙ אֶל־אַבְרָ֔ם בַּמַּֽחֲזֶ֖ה לֵאמֹ֑ר אַל־תִּירָ֣א אַבְרָ֗ם אָֽנֹכִי֙ מָגֵ֣ן לָ֔ךְ שְׂכָֽרְךָ֖ הַרְבֵּ֥ה מְאֹֽד:
2And Abram said, "O Lord God, what will You give me, since I am going childless, and the steward of my household is Eliezer of Damascus?" בוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אַבְרָ֗ם אֲדֹנָ֤י יֱהֹוִה֙ מַה־תִּתֶּן־לִ֔י וְאָֽנֹכִ֖י הוֹלֵ֣ךְ עֲרִירִ֑י וּבֶן־מֶ֣שֶׁק בֵּיתִ֔י ה֖וּא דַּמֶּ֥שֶׂק אֱלִיעֶֽזֶר:
3And Abram said, "Behold, You have given me no seed, and behold, one of my household will inherit me." גוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אַבְרָ֔ם הֵ֣ן לִ֔י לֹ֥א נָתַ֖תָּה זָ֑רַע וְהִנֵּ֥ה בֶן־בֵּיתִ֖י יוֹרֵ֥שׁ אֹתִֽי:
4And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying,
"This one will not inherit you, but the one who will spring from your innards-he will inherit you." דוְהִנֵּ֨ה דְבַר־יְהֹוָ֤ה אֵלָיו֙ לֵאמֹ֔ר לֹ֥א יִירָֽשְׁךָ֖ זֶ֑ה כִּי־אִם֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר יֵצֵ֣א מִמֵּעֶ֔יךָ ה֖וּא יִֽירָשֶֽׁךָ:
5And He took him outside, and He said,
"Please look heavenward and count the stars, if you are able to count them." And He said to him, "So will be your seed." הוַיּוֹצֵ֨א אֹת֜וֹ הַח֗וּצָה וַיֹּ֨אמֶר֙ הַבֶּט־נָ֣א הַשָּׁמַ֔יְמָה וּסְפֹר֙ הַכּ֣וֹכָבִ֔ים אִם־תּוּכַ֖ל לִסְפֹּ֣ר אֹתָ֑ם וַיֹּ֣אמֶר ל֔וֹ כֹּ֥ה יִֽהְיֶ֖ה זַרְעֶֽךָ:
6And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him as righteousness. ווְהֶֽאֱמִ֖ן בַּֽיהֹוָ֑ה וַיַּחְשְׁבֶ֥הָ לּ֖וֹ צְדָקָֽה:
7And He said to him,
"I am the Lord, Who brought you forth from Ur of the Chaldees, to give you this land to inherit it." זוַיֹּ֖אמֶר אֵלָ֑יו אֲנִ֣י יְהֹוָ֗ה אֲשֶׁ֤ר הֽוֹצֵאתִ֨יךָ֙ מֵא֣וּר כַּשְׂדִּ֔ים לָ֧תֶת לְךָ֛ אֶת־הָאָ֥רֶץ הַזֹּ֖את לְרִשְׁתָּֽהּ:
8And he said, "O Lord God, how will I know that I will inherit it?" חוַיֹּאמַ֑ר אֲדֹנָ֣י יֱהֹוִ֔ה בַּמָּ֥ה אֵדַ֖ע כִּ֥י אִֽירָשֶֽׁנָּה:
9And He said to him,
"Take for Me three heifers and three goats and three rams, and a turtle dove and a young bird." טוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֵלָ֗יו קְחָ֥ה לִי֙ עֶגְלָ֣ה מְשֻׁלֶּ֔שֶׁת וְעֵ֥ז מְשֻׁלֶּ֖שֶׁת וְאַ֣יִל מְשֻׁלָּ֑שׁ וְתֹ֖ר וְגוֹזָֽל:
10And he took for Him all these, and he divided them in the middle, and he placed each part opposite its mate, but he did not divide the birds. יוַיִּקַּח־ל֣וֹ אֶת־כָּל־אֵ֗לֶּה וַיְבַתֵּ֤ר אֹתָם֙ בַּתָּ֔וֶךְ וַיִּתֵּ֥ן אִֽישׁ־בִּתְר֖וֹ לִקְרַ֣את רֵעֵ֑הוּ וְאֶת־הַצִּפֹּ֖ר לֹ֥א בָתָֽר:
11And the birds of prey descended upon the carcasses, and Abram drove them away. יאוַיֵּ֥רֶד הָעַ֖יִט עַל־הַפְּגָרִ֑ים וַיַּשֵּׁ֥ב אֹתָ֖ם אַבְרָֽם:
12Now the sun was ready to set, and a deep sleep fell upon Abram, and behold, a fright, a great darkness was falling upon him. יבוַיְהִ֤י הַשֶּׁ֨מֶשׁ֙ לָב֔וֹא וְתַרְדֵּמָ֖ה נָֽפְלָ֣ה עַל־אַבְרָ֑ם וְהִנֵּ֥ה אֵימָ֛ה חֲשֵׁכָ֥ה גְדֹלָ֖ה נֹפֶ֥לֶת עָלָֽיו:
13And He said to Abram,
"You shall surely know that your seed will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and they will enslave them and oppress them, for four hundred years. יגוַיֹּ֣אמֶר לְאַבְרָ֗ם יָדֹ֨עַ תֵּדַ֜ע כִּי־גֵ֣ר | יִֽהְיֶ֣ה זַרְעֲךָ֗ בְּאֶ֨רֶץ֙ לֹ֣א לָהֶ֔ם וַֽעֲבָד֖וּם וְעִנּ֣וּ אֹתָ֑ם אַרְבַּ֥ע מֵא֖וֹת שָׁנָֽה:
14And also the nation that they will serve will I judge, and afterwards they will go forth with great possessions.ידוְגַ֧ם אֶת־הַגּ֛וֹי אֲשֶׁ֥ר יַֽעֲבֹ֖דוּ דָּ֣ן אָנֹ֑כִי וְאַֽחֲרֵי־כֵ֥ן יֵֽצְא֖וּ בִּרְכֻ֥שׁ גָּדֽוֹל:
15But you will come to your forefathers in peace; you will be buried in a good old age. טווְאַתָּ֛ה תָּב֥וֹא אֶל־אֲבֹתֶ֖יךָ בְּשָׁל֑וֹם תִּקָּבֵ֖ר בְּשֵׂיבָ֥ה טוֹבָֽה:
16And the fourth generation will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites will not be complete until then."טזוְד֥וֹר רְבִיעִ֖י יָשׁ֣וּבוּ הֵ֑נָּה כִּ֧י לֹֽא־שָׁלֵ֛ם עֲוֹ֥ן הָֽאֱמֹרִ֖י עַד־הֵֽנָּה:
17Now it came to pass that the sun had set, and it was dark, and behold, a smoking furnace and a fire brand, which passed between these parts. יזוַיְהִ֤י הַשֶּׁ֨מֶשׁ֙ בָּ֔אָה וַֽעֲלָטָ֖ה הָיָ֑ה וְהִנֵּ֨ה תַנּ֤וּר עָשָׁן֙ וְלַפִּ֣יד אֵ֔שׁ אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָבַ֔ר בֵּ֖ין הַגְּזָרִ֥ים הָאֵֽלֶּה:
18On that day, the Lord formed a covenant with Abram, saying,
"To your seed I have given this land, from the river of Egypt until the great river, the Euphrates river. יחבַּיּ֣וֹם הַה֗וּא כָּרַ֧ת יְהֹוָ֛ה אֶת־אַבְרָ֖ם בְּרִ֣ית לֵאמֹ֑ר לְזַרְעֲךָ֗ נָתַ֨תִּי֙ אֶת־הָאָ֣רֶץ הַזֹּ֔את מִנְּהַ֣ר מִצְרַ֔יִם עַד־הַנָּהָ֥ר הַגָּדֹ֖ל נְהַר־פְּרָֽת:
19The Kenites, the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, יטאֶת־הַקֵּינִי֙ וְאֶת־הַקְּנִזִּ֔י וְאֵ֖ת הַקַּדְמֹנִֽי:
20And the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Rephaim, כוְאֶת־הַֽחִתִּ֥י וְאֶת־הַפְּרִזִּ֖י וְאֶת־הָֽרְפָאִֽים:
21And the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Girga****es and the Jebusites." כאוְאֶת־הָֽאֱמֹרִי֙ וְאֶת־הַכְּנַֽעֲנִ֔י וְאֶת־הַגִּרְגָּשִׁ֖י וְאֶת־הַיְבוּסִֽי:
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Trust

And He said,
"Do not draw near here. Take your shoes off your feet, because the place upon which you stand is holy soil." הוַיֹּ֖אמֶר אַל־תִּקְרַ֣ב הֲלֹ֑ם שַׁל־נְעָלֶ֨יךָ֙ מֵעַ֣ל רַגְלֶ֔יךָ כִּ֣י הַמָּק֗וֹם אֲשֶׁ֤ר אַתָּה֙ עוֹמֵ֣ד עָלָ֔יו אַדְמַת־קֹ֖דֶשׁ הֽוּא:
6And He said,
"I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face because he was afraid to look toward God. ווַיֹּ֗אמֶר אָֽנֹכִי֙ אֱלֹהֵ֣י אָבִ֔יךָ אֱלֹהֵ֧י אַבְרָהָ֛ם אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִצְחָ֖ק וֵֽאלֹהֵ֣י יַֽעֲקֹ֑ב וַיַּסְתֵּ֤ר משֶׁה֙ פָּנָ֔יו כִּ֣י יָרֵ֔א מֵֽהַבִּ֖יט אֶל־הָֽאֱלֹהִֽים:
7And the Lord said,
"I have surely seen the affliction of My people who are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry because of their slave drivers, for I know their pains. זוַיֹּ֣אמֶר יְהֹוָ֔ה רָאֹ֥ה רָאִ֛יתִי אֶת־עֳנִ֥י עַמִּ֖י אֲשֶׁ֣ר בְּמִצְרָ֑יִם וְאֶת־צַֽעֲקָתָ֤ם שָׁמַ֨עְתִּי֙ מִפְּנֵ֣י נֹֽגְשָׂ֔יו כִּ֥י יָדַ֖עְתִּי אֶת־מַכְאֹבָֽיו:
8I have descended to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up from that land, to a good and spacious land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivvites, and the Jebusites. חוָֽאֵרֵ֞ד לְהַצִּיל֣וֹ | מִיַּ֣ד מִצְרַ֗יִם וּלְהַֽעֲלֹתוֹ֘ מִן־הָאָ֣רֶץ הַהִוא֒ אֶל־אֶ֤רֶץ טוֹבָה֙ וּרְחָבָ֔ה אֶל־אֶ֛רֶץ זָבַ֥ת חָלָ֖ב וּדְבָ֑שׁ אֶל־מְק֤וֹם הַכְּנַֽעֲנִי֙ וְהַ֣חִתִּ֔י וְהָֽאֱמֹרִי֙ וְהַפְּרִזִּ֔י וְהַֽחִוִּ֖י וְהַיְבוּסִֽי:
9And now, behold, the cry of the children of Israel has come to Me, and I have also seen the oppression that the Egyptians are oppressing them. טוְעַתָּ֕ה הִנֵּ֛ה צַֽעֲקַ֥ת בְּנֵֽי־יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל בָּ֣אָה אֵלָ֑י וְגַם־רָאִ֨יתִי֙ אֶת־הַלַּ֔חַץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר מִצְרַ֖יִם לֹֽחֲצִ֥ים אֹתָֽם:
10So now come, and I will send you to Pharaoh, and take My people, the children of Israel, out of Egypt." יוְעַתָּ֣ה לְכָ֔ה וְאֶשְׁלָֽחֲךָ֖ אֶל־פַּרְעֹ֑ה וְהוֹצֵ֛א אֶת־עַמִּ֥י בְנֵֽי־יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מִמִּצְרָֽיִם:


And it was when Joshua was in Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and saw, and, behold, a man was standing opposite him with his sword drawn in his hand; and Joshua went to him, and said to him, Are you for us, or for our adversaries? יגוַיְהִ֗י בִּֽהְי֣וֹת יְהוֹשֻׁ֘עַ֘ בִּֽירִיחוֹ֒ וַיִּשָּׂ֚א עֵינָיו֙ וַיַּ֔רְא וְהִנֵּה־אִישׁ֙ עֹמֵ֣ד לְנֶגְדּ֔וֹ וְחַרְבּ֥וֹ שְׁלוּפָ֖ה בְּיָד֑וֹ וַיֵּ֨לֶךְ יְהוֹשֻׁ֚עַ אֵלָיו֙ וַיֹּ֣אמֶר ל֔וֹ הֲלָ֥נוּ אַתָּ֖ה אִם־לְצָרֵֽינוּ:
14And he said,
No, but I am the captain of the host of the Lord; I have now come.

And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and prostrated himself, and said to him, What does my lord say to his servant? ידוַיֹּ֣אמֶר | לֹ֗א כִּ֛י אֲנִ֥י שַׂר־צְבָֽא־יְהֹוָ֖ה עַתָּ֣ה בָ֑אתִי וַיִּפֹּל֩ יְהוֹשֻׁ֨עַ אֶל־פָּנָ֥יו אַ֙רְצָה֙ וַיִּשְׁתָּ֔חוּ וַיֹּ֣אמֶר ל֔וֹ מָ֥ה אֲדֹנִ֖י מְדַבֵּ֥ר אֶל־עַבְדּֽוֹ:
15And the captain of the Lord's host said to Joshua,

Remove your shoe from your foot; for the place upon which you stand is holy. And Joshua did so. טווַיֹּ֩אמֶר֩ שַׂר־צְבָ֨א יְהֹוָ֜ה אֶל־יְהוֹשֻׁ֗עַ שַׁל־נַֽעַלְךָ֙ מֵעַ֣ל רַגְלֶ֔ךָ כִּ֣י הַמָּק֗וֹם אֲשֶׁ֥ר אַתָּ֛ה עֹמֵ֥ד עָלָ֖יו קֹ֣דֶשׁ ה֑וּא וַיַּ֥עַשׂ יְהוֹשֻׁ֖עַ כֵּֽן:

Trust and patience

Then Job replied and said, אוַיַּ֥עַן אִיּ֗וֹב וַיֹּֽאמַר:
2"Indeed, I know that it is so, but why should a man be righteous with God? באָמְנָם יָדַ֣עְתִּי כִּי־כֵ֑ן וּמַה־יִּצְדַּ֖ק אֱנ֣וֹשׁ עִם־אֵֽל:
3If he would wish to contend with Him He would not answer him one out of a thousand. גאִם־יַ֖חְפֹּץ לָרִ֣יב עִמּ֑וֹ לֹֽא־יַֽ֜עֲנֶ֗נּוּ אַחַ֥ת מִנִּי־אָֽלֶף:
4He is wise in heart and mighty in strength; who hardened [his heart] against Him and remained whole? דחֲכַ֣ם לֵ֖בָב וְאַמִּ֣יץ כֹּ֑חַ מִי־הִקְשָׁ֥ה אֵ֜לָ֗יו וַיִּשְׁלָֽם:
5He Who moved mountains but they knew not that He had overturned them in His wrath; ההַמַּעְתִּ֣יק הָ֖רִים וְלֹ֣א יָדָ֑עוּ אֲשֶׁ֖ר הֲפָכָ֣ם בְּאַפּֽוֹ:
6He Who causes the earth to quake from its place, and its pillars shudder; והַמַּרְגִּ֣יז אֶ֖רֶץ מִמְּקוֹמָ֑הּ וְ֜עַמּוּדֶ֗יהָ יִתְפַּלָּצֽוּן:
7He Who spoke to the sun and it did not shine, and He sealed up the stars; זהָֽאֹמֵ֣ר לַ֖חֶרֶס וְלֹ֣א יִזְרָ֑ח וּבְעַ֖ד כּֽוֹכָבִ֣ים יַחְתֹּֽם:
8He Who alone stretched out the heavens and treads on the high places of the sea; חנֹטֶ֣ה שָׁמַ֣יִם לְבַדּ֑וֹ וְ֜דוֹרֵ֗ךְ עַל־בָּֽמֳתֵי־יָֽם:
9He Who made the Bear, Orion, and the Pleiades, and the chambers of the south; טעֹֽשֶׂה־עָ֖שׁ כְּסִ֥יל וְכִימָ֗ה וְחַדְרֵ֥י תֵמָֽן:
10He Who performs great deeds without limit, and wonders until they have no number יעֹשֶׂ֣ה גְ֖דֹלוֹת עַד־אֵ֣ין חֵ֑קֶר וְנִפְלָא֗וֹת עַד־אֵ֥ין מִסְפָּֽר:
11Behold, He goes by me but I do not see [Him]; and He passes but I do not perceive Him. יאהֵ֚ן יַֽעֲבֹ֣ר עָ֖לַי וְלֹ֣א אֶרְאֶ֑ה וְ֜יַֽחֲלֹ֗ף וְֽלֹא־אָבִ֥ין לֽוֹ:
12Behold, He strikes suddenly, and who can hold Him back; who will say to Him, 'What are You doing?' יבהֵ֣ן יַ֖חְתֹּף מִ֣י יְשִׁיבֶ֑נּוּ מִֽי־יֹאמַ֥ר אֵ֜לָ֗יו מַֽה־תַּֽעֲשֶֽׂה:
13God will not hold back His wrath; all the helpers of Rahab stoop under Him. יגאֱלוֹהַּ לֹֽא־יָשִׁ֣יב אַפּ֑וֹ תַּחְתָּ֥יו (כתיב תַּחְתָּ֥ו) שָֽׁ֜חֲח֗וּ עֹ֣זְרֵי רָֽהַב:




[FONT=&quot] “Therefore every scribe who is instructed unto the Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a man that is a householder, who bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.”[/FONT]
 

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The story of Job has always been an interesting one for me. What he went through, how he held up, could I hold up in my faith under such circumstances?

Any thoughts?
I love the book of Job...there are so many lesson here. One is, it is dangerous to be conscious of submission to a spiritual power. The difference between fatalism and faith lies just here. Fatalism means, “My number’s up; I have to bow to the power whether I like it or not; I do not know the character of the power, but it is greater than I am, and I must submit.”

The submission of faith is that I do know the character of the power, and this was the line Job took - “though He slay me, yet I will trust the fact that His character is worthy.” This is the attitude of my faith all through - “I submit to One whose character I know but whose ways are obscured in mystery just now.”

We do know the character of God, if we are Christians, because we have it revealed to us in Jesus Christ - “He that hath seen Me hath seen the Father.” Anything that contradicts the manifestation given in and through the Lord Jesus Christ cannot be true of God.

Therefore we know that the character of God is noble and true and right, and any authority from God is based, not on un-meshed dictatorship or mere blind power, but on worthiness which everything in me recognizes as worthy, therefore I submit.

Elihu was moved with indignation because Job said, “I cannot submit to the fact that God has decreed such things as you say; you must give me room to say that your creedal exposition of God is wrong. By your creed you prove me to be wrong where I know I am right; therefore if the facts I do know are disproved by you, how can I accept your explanation of the facts I do not know?” This foundation in the Character and person of Christ Jesus in connection to God and myself relationally excites me.....because it is my experience as well to know to know my Father thru Jesus Christ, despite me not knowing all He knows...Smile.
 
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Still others, like seed sown among thorns, hear the word;but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful.

"He is wise in heart and mighty in strength; who hardened [his heart] against Him and remained whole?
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Has anyone been reminded of pharaoh(king)head of egypt here.
generations have passed just as the Lord said.
Then ‘a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt.’
 
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iyov(job)9

“He is not a mere mortal like me that I might answer him,

that we might confront each other in court.
If only there were someone to mediate between us,
someone to bring us together,


What would anyone here on this board do for iyov(job)

 
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iyov(job)9

“He is not a mere mortal like me that I might answer him,

that we might confront each other in court.
If only there were someone to mediate between us,
someone to bring us together,


What would anyone here on this board do for iyov(job)

For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
 

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forget about job what about jesus?what can we learn about his life on earth? read the new testament
And why should we forget about Job? Every book of the bible has a message for us. Of course, Jesus Christ is the center but that does not negate the rest of scripture.
 

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I wonder if the patience of the Saints during their great tribulation Revlation 13, is comparable to the patience of Job?

Revelation 13:10 [FONT=&quot]He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.[/FONT]