Does God Live Inside Our Observable Universe?

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FlyingDove

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Does God Live Inside Our Observable Universe?
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Yup....

I have seen the Holy spirit in action...
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Jesus was walking around for about 33 years i believe....


but i dont think Gods kingdom is something we can find or reach in this temporal "universe"



my final answer : Yes and No
 
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Dino246

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My answer is "no". There are several verses in the Bible that state where God dwells (in unapproachable light; in the praises of His people; etc.) and I do believe that He take up residence in/with us as Christians. However, given that God created the universe ex nihilo, in a logical sense He must exist outside of the universe. I don't think there's a planet, galaxy, or plasma cloud we will ever be able to identify as "God's home", despite the fanciful claims of BBC and Nova pseudo-documentaries.
 
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My answer is "no". There are several verses in the Bible that state where God dwells (in unapproachable light; in the praises of His people; etc.) and I do believe that He take up residence in/with us as Christians. However, given that God created the universe ex nihilo, in a logical sense He must exist outside of the universe. I don't think there's a planet, galaxy, or plasma cloud we will ever be able to identify as "God's home", despite the fanciful claims of BBC and Nova pseudo-documentaries.
I couldn't agree more.
 
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Does God Live Inside Our Observable Universe?
Omnipresent. It means he is everywhere. Everywhere includes "inside our observable universe," inside what isn't observable in the universe, and outside the universe all together at once.
 
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My answer is "no". There are several verses in the Bible that state where God dwells (in unapproachable light; in the praises of His people; etc.) and I do believe that He take up residence in/with us as Christians. However, given that God created the universe ex nihilo, in a logical sense He must exist outside of the universe. I don't think there's a planet, galaxy, or plasma cloud we will ever be able to identify as "God's home", despite the fanciful claims of BBC and Nova pseudo-documentaries.

I agree with you that God inhabits the praises of His people. But God lives within his people as well. In fact, I saw Jesus Christ alive in a poor young blind woman many years ago. That's how I came to know Him. God shows Himself to us in many observable ways. The heavens declare His glory. God’s attributes are clearly seen in His creation of the earth. Because He lives, we live. God is omnipresent.
 

JesusLives

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If you look hard enough you can see God in everything. Even in something bad you can see the hope that God can make it better.
 

Dan58

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If God wasn't in the universe, his Holy Spirit would be absent. Although God exist in another dimension, his spirit transcends this physical universe. I'm not sure we can pinpoint a realm or place that God exist, but its certain He does not dwell on Earth, as Jesus told Pilate, "My kingdom is not of this world" (John 18:36). Jesus prayed; "Our Father which art in heaven", so I presume his headquarters is there.. jmo
 

FlyingDove

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How could the universe be created from within. Within means already there. So, clearly, God the creator. Doesn't live within our observable universe.

Scriptures make it clear, He does have the ability to operate inside it. There was no TIME or MATTER when He gave the command "LIGHT BE".

The fact He exists in a dimension outside of time. Answers a much asked question. Who created God? Only """within the confines of TIME""" is a beginning or an end necessary.
 

Magenta

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He is both transcendent and immanent :)
 

Magenta

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For in Him we live, and move, and have our being... Acts ​17:28a (KJV)
 

posthuman

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Solomon said at the dedication of the temple:

But who is able to build a house for Him, for the heavens and the highest heavens cannot contain Him? So who am I, that I should build a house for Him, except to burn incense before Him?

(2 Chronicles 2:6)
 

stonesoffire

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Which is reality? Inside time or outside?
 

Dino246

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Which is reality? Inside time or outside?
Doesn't the answer to this question depend on who is asking, and on who is answering? ;)

(Alice, Einstein, and Dr. Who took tea together)
 

Eromonnis

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We are not here for self, but for the One who sent us (our being/spirit).
Our mission is to unconditionally use the body as a vehicle/means of visibly expressing God's Truth and Love. To show others that God lives inside our observable universe. This is what Christianity is about. Spreading the Good Word through our thoughts and actions. That God is indeed within us IF we allow it (the correct use of our free-will).
 
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How could the universe be created from within. Within means already there. So, clearly, God the creator. Doesn't live within our observable universe.

Scriptures make it clear, He does have the ability to operate inside it. There was no TIME or MATTER when He gave the command "LIGHT BE".

The fact He exists in a dimension outside of time. Answers a much asked question. Who created God? Only """within the confines of TIME""" is a beginning or an end necessary.
Your explanation isn't working. If I make a house, does that mean I can't live in it while I'm making it or afterward? (Granted. Unusual to live in a house while making it, but I knew people who lived in their basement when it really only was a basement. They were going to make the rest of the house as they could afford it. lol) You're saying God can't be in something he already made. Why not?
 

stonesoffire

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Doesn't the answer to this question depend on who is asking, and on who is answering? ;)

(Alice, Einstein, and Dr. Who took tea together)
This explained the power of faith to me when I realized this world is just temporal, and where God lives is reality.

Doesnt take any of those three, just Holy Spirit to teach. :) and I know you know this. ;)
 

FlyingDove

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Your explanation isn't working. If I make a house, does that mean I can't live in it while I'm making it or afterward? (Granted. Unusual to live in a house while making it, but I knew people who lived in their basement when it really only was a basement. They were going to make the rest of the house as they could afford it. lol) You're saying God can't be in something he already made. Why not?

The Hebrew verb translated “created” (""bara"") in Genesis 1:1 has as its primary definition: “bringing into existence something new, something that did not exist before.”

The proclamation that God created ("bara" something, never before, brand new) the entirety of the heavens is stated seven times in the Old Testament. (Genesis 1:1; 2:3; 2:4; Psalm 148:5; Isaiah 40:26; 42:5; 45:18).

A few verses that seemingly suggest God lives outside of our universe

The Bible speaks of 3 different heavens.

Two are in our universe. Another is where God dwells.

Genesis 1:1 says that God created "the heavens" .

The 1st heaven is the atmosphere around the earth. Where birds & planes fly.

The 2nd heaven is moon, stars, galaxies etc.

The 3rd heaven is where Gods throne is. And exists outside of our observable universe.

2 Cor 2:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to """the third heaven""".

Deut 10:14 Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD'S thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.

1 Kings 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?

2 Chronicles 6:18 But will God in very deed dwell with men on the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house which I have built!

Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above the heavens, that he might fill all things

Psalms 24:7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

Jacob's Ladder leads to a Gate that opens the door to the 3rd heaven. Gen 28:11-13 16-18

One day soon, God will again, open that gate. And we will see:

Revelation 4:1 (A) After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven:

Rev 21:2 And I saw the holy city, ""the new (Heavenly) Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God"", all arrayed like a bride beautified and adorned for her husband;