2 John 1:11 Greeting Evil Teachers!

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Angela53510

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"ὁ λέγων γὰρ αὐτῷ χαίρειν κοινωνεῖ τοῖς ἔργοις αὐτοῦ τοῖς πονηροῖς." 2 John 1:11 SBL Greek

I get a daily email from a professor of Greek in the USAm called "Daily Dose of Greek." He goes through one verse of the NT a day. He talks about the grammar, any idioms, reminds of us of our verb paradigms and then deals with the verse. Of course, most of you don't read Greek, so here is this verse in English, in context!

"Everyone who goes on ahead and does not remain in the teaching of Christ does not have God. The one who remains in this teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house and do not give him any greeting, 11 because the person who gives him a greeting shares in his evil deeds." 1 John 1:9-11

So, what is John saying here? He is warning us not to greet false teachers. He says that even "greeting" these teachers means you are sharing in their deeds! Ouch!

So, what does that mean for forums like CC, where people not only post false doctrine, but they post the constant lies of certain deceivers, and with joy!

People must wonder at my obsession with the truth. Why don't I just put these people on ignore, and leave them alone? Well, there are some people who post stuff that is utter nonsense. Those don't need to be rebuked.

But, others post subtle lies, using bad (or more likely NO!) exegesis. They will post anything that confirms the latest revelation, the latest teaching, even if it is not Biblical. Even if it directly contradicts what the Bible says. And, they will not listen to correction.

And I am not talking about just me! There are many here who reprove these false teachings. But there are also some who let this bad teaching "into their house." They support these people, contrary to Scripture! I am not speaking of soteriological or eschatological arguments that are within the bounds of orthodox Christianity. I am speaking of false doctrines which literally lead you away from God.

Things like don't even think twice about your "failures," (sin appears to have fallen out of favour, as a word which the entire gospel is predicated on.) Or, experience trumps the word of God. Someone told me in another thread, that they have felt electricity running through their body when the Holy Spirit touched them. Really? How about a kundalini spirit? How about experience, never trumps the word of God? Just show me where any disciple had an "electric spirit" run through their body when God saved them.

Sure, tongues of fire, a sound like a rushing wind happened on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2, but no where else. And tongues as a witness in a few places in Acts. But kundalini electricity? That is just scary.

I have always regretted the time I wasted in the New Age movement through the 1970s. Ten years wasted, I always thought. But now, as I see these evil concepts creeping into the church, I reflect gladly that God allowed me to go through that, so now I can stand against that evil from Satan. Truly, God does work all these together for good.

My dedication to this site, is based on the fact that too many greet people resulting in them being a part of the evil deeds of these false teachers. If these people are lost, and will not be corrected, that is between them and God. But there are so many newbies, so many "guests" who read these threads without even joining, and I want them to read the truths laid out in the Bible, not the false new supposed revelations, or the exegetical nonsense and lies some are posting as truth.

So, are you greeting those with false teachings, and thereby sharing in their evil deeds? Or are you standing for Biblical truth?
 
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Blain

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I do not think I am fit to be a teacher, not yet at least. I also think we have to many (teachers) and not near enough students. You are actually one of the few on cc that hold in high regard when it comes to the scriptures and I will be the first to admit that I can at times stray more towards experience than the scriptures themselves but I do try to keep any of my beliefs and experiences to the scriptures.

But I agree with you in your post. No one ever considers that damage they do to those who frequent the forum as a guest, they could care less about the fact that the words they speak can and do damage new believers. Personally when it comes to doctrine of the truth I cannot say that I myself know and believe all the correct ones nor can I say that I have all the correct views and beliefs but that is why we are to be students first with a hungry eagerness to learn, those kind of students make the best teachers.

Not everyone has the gift of teaching and yet teach as if they do, but one who has the gift of teaching even if they do not have all the correct doctrines or beliefs will be used by God as only he can because there are teachers yes but person who has the gift of teaching is the best kind of teacher because they are not teachers of the flesh they are teachers of the spirit.
A teacher more than anyone must consider the words they speak and the teachings they teach because in teaching they are placing themselves in the role of helping to mold and guide his sheep and they cannot simply use the scriptures as they see fit as many here do because anyone who takes on the role of a teacher will be held accountable for the words they speak and the scriptures they use.
 
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Hi Angela53510,

What part of the information below was sent by the professor of Greek?

So, what is John saying here? He is warning us not to greet false teachers. He says that even "greeting" these teachers means you are sharing in their deeds! Ouch!

So, what does that mean for forums like CC, where people not only post false doctrine, but they post the constant lies of certain deceivers, and with joy!

People must wonder at my obsession with the truth. Why don't I just put these people on ignore, and leave them alone? Well, there are some people who post stuff that is utter nonsense. Those don't need to be rebuked.

But, others post subtle lies, using bad (or more likely NO!) exegesis. They will post anything that confirms the latest revelation, the latest teaching, even if it is not Biblical. Even if it directly contradicts what the Bible says. And, they will not listen to correction.

And I am not talking about just me! There are many here who reprove these false teachings. But there are also some who let this bad teaching "into their house." They support these people, contrary to Scripture! I am not speaking of soteriological or eschatological arguments that are within the bounds of orthodox Christianity. I am speaking of false doctrines which literally lead you away from God.

Things like don't even think twice about your "failures," (sin appears to have fallen out of favour, as a word which the entire gospel is predicated on.) Or, experience trumps the word of God. Someone told me in another thread, that they have felt electricity running through their body when the Holy Spirit touched them. Really? How about a kundalini spirit? How about experience, never trumps the word of God? Just show me where any disciple had an "electric spirit" run through their body when God saved them.

Sure, tongues of fire, a sound like a rushing wind happened on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2, but no where else. And tongues as a witness in a few places in Acts. But kundalini electricity? That is just scary.

I have always regretted the time I wasted in the New Age movement through the 1970s. Ten years wasted, I always thought. But now, as I see these evil concepts creeping into the church, I reflect gladly that God allowed me to go through that, so now I can stand against that evil from Satan. Truly, God does work all these together for good.

My dedication to this site, is based on the fact that too many greet people resulting in them being a part of the evil deeds of these false teachers. If these people are lost, and will not be corrected, that is between them and God. But there are so many newbies, so many "guests" who read these threads without even joining, and I want them to read the truths laid out in the Bible, not the false new supposed revelations, or the exegetical nonsense and lies some are posting as truth.

So, are you greeting those with false teachings, and thereby sharing in their evil deeds? Or are you standing for Biblical truth?
I would be interested in reading what the professor of Greek had to share about 2 John 1:11.

Thanks.
 

Angela53510

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Hi Angela53510,

What part of the information below was sent by the professor of Greek?



I would be interested in reading what the professor of Greek had to share about 2 John 1:11.

Thanks.
The professor only exegetes one verse. So the rest is from me. And what I am seeing around this forum. But it hit me quite strongly as I was listening to this verse, how too many people "greet" people, without being discerning about what they are writing. Well, not me, obviously! And many others!

It is a video blog. About 2 minutes long. Here is the link:

2 John 1-11 | Daily Dose of Greek

He reads it in Greek, translates the Greek into English, then talks about what it means. Also, I just did the verses in front and after, so I am thinking partly of that, too! He has been working his way through the epistles of John, and is actually finished them all, I just need to catch up!

Anyone who wants can follow these Daily Doses of Greek, can click on the link, and then signing up at the bottom of the page! But having a bit of a Greek background does help. Or perhaps you can just start studying Greek by watching the blogs? Nah! Too hard!

But if anyone does want to study Greek, I can give you some good resources. Just contact me. You might have to add me as a friend to do that. I closed up my profile a while back. No one who is really in the forum, just a lot of scammers I got tired of telling me I could share in their $10 million stuck in a bank in Nigeria sort of thing! LOL
 
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7seasrekeyed

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since some of these doctrines of demons are going mainstream, better roll up your sleeves

um....here is a pic some people are going to be uncomfortable with. it's some pretty dark humor.

I figure, this is what some people are holding onto, thinking it's the gospel, and it's really, well, the devil's version that has been swallowed and digested

sorry if this offends anyone and I guess a mod can delete it if it crosses a line


 

Eromonnis

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...

"Everyone who goes on ahead and does not remain in the teaching of Christ does not have God. The one who remains in this teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house and do not give him any greeting, 11 because the person who gives him a greeting shares in his evil deeds." 1 John 1:9-11

So, what is John saying here? ...
The teachings of Christ is about God (Truth). Those that remain in this teaching has the Truth.
Those without this teaching bare no Truth, and anything that is taught, or spoken, by them is full of deceptions. So do not greet such a messenger, for if you do, then you have already partaken to be attentive to the deceptions.

All deceptions are both untrue and the cause of all fears (greed, anger, etc), which evil thrives upon.
 

stonesoffire

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"ὁ λέγων γὰρ αὐτῷ χαίρειν κοινωνεῖ τοῖς ἔργοις αὐτοῦ τοῖς πονηροῖς." 2 John 1:11 SBL Greek

I get a daily email from a professor of Greek in the USAm called "Daily Dose of Greek." He goes through one verse of the NT a day. He talks about the grammar, any idioms, reminds of us of our verb paradigms and then deals with the verse. Of course, most of you don't read Greek, so here is this verse in English, in context!

"Everyone who goes on ahead and does not remain in the teaching of Christ does not have God. The one who remains in this teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house and do not give him any greeting, 11 because the person who gives him a greeting shares in his evil deeds." 1 John 1:9-11

So, what is John saying here? He is warning us not to greet false teachers. He says that even "greeting" these teachers means you are sharing in their deeds! Ouch!

So, what does that mean for forums like CC, where people not only post false doctrine, but they post the constant lies of certain deceivers, and with joy!

People must wonder at my obsession with the truth. Why don't I just put these people on ignore, and leave them alone? Well, there are some people who post stuff that is utter nonsense. Those don't need to be rebuked.

But, others post subtle lies, using bad (or more likely NO!) exegesis. They will post anything that confirms the latest revelation, the latest teaching, even if it is not Biblical. Even if it directly contradicts what the Bible says. And, they will not listen to correction.

And I am not talking about just me! There are many here who reprove these false teachings. But there are also some who let this bad teaching "into their house." They support these people, contrary to Scripture! I am not speaking of soteriological or eschatological arguments that are within the bounds of orthodox Christianity. I am speaking of false doctrines which literally lead you away from God.

Things like don't even think twice about your "failures," (sin appears to have fallen out of favour, as a word which the entire gospel is predicated on.) Or, experience trumps the word of God. Someone told me in another thread, that they have felt electricity running through their body when the Holy Spirit touched them. Really? How about a kundalini spirit? How about experience, never trumps the word of God? Just show me where any disciple had an "electric spirit" run through their body when God saved them.

Sure, tongues of fire, a sound like a rushing wind happened on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2, but no where else. And tongues as a witness in a few places in Acts. But kundalini electricity? That is just scary.

I have always regretted the time I wasted in the New Age movement through the 1970s. Ten years wasted, I always thought. But now, as I see these evil concepts creeping into the church, I reflect gladly that God allowed me to go through that, so now I can stand against that evil from Satan. Truly, God does work all these together for good.

My dedication to this site, is based on the fact that too many greet people resulting in them being a part of the evil deeds of these false teachers. If these people are lost, and will not be corrected, that is between them and God. But there are so many newbies, so many "guests" who read these threads without even joining, and I want them to read the truths laid out in the Bible, not the false new supposed revelations, or the exegetical nonsense and lies some are posting as truth.

So, are you greeting those with false teachings, and thereby sharing in their evil deeds? Or are you standing for Biblical truth?
Is it false teaching to misquote someone Angela? Or add to someone's post? I said nothing about being saved with these experiences.

The first time it was at and Intercessors Conference and it hit more than just me.

Theres all all kinds of happenings in the Spirit. Just be careful what you are saying.

Also kundalini is associated with Yoga.
 
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"ὁ λέγων γὰρ αὐτῷ χαίρειν κοινωνεῖ τοῖς ἔργοις αὐτοῦ τοῖς πονηροῖς." 2 John 1:11 SBL Greek

I get a daily email from a professor of Greek in the USAm called "Daily Dose of Greek." He goes through one verse of the NT a day. He talks about the grammar, any idioms, reminds of us of our verb paradigms and then deals with the verse. Of course, most of you don't read Greek, so here is this verse in English, in context!

"Everyone who goes on ahead and does not remain in the teaching of Christ does not have God. The one who remains in this teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house and do not give him any greeting, 11 because the person who gives him a greeting shares in his evil deeds." 1 John 1:9-11

So, what is John saying here? He is warning us not to greet false teachers. He says that even "greeting" these teachers means you are sharing in their deeds! Ouch!

So, what does that mean for forums like CC, where people not only post false doctrine, but they post the constant lies of certain deceivers, and with joy!

People must wonder at my obsession with the truth. Why don't I just put these people on ignore, and leave them alone? Well, there are some people who post stuff that is utter nonsense. Those don't need to be rebuked.

But, others post subtle lies, using bad (or more likely NO!) exegesis. They will post anything that confirms the latest revelation, the latest teaching, even if it is not Biblical. Even if it directly contradicts what the Bible says. And, they will not listen to correction.

And I am not talking about just me! There are many here who reprove these false teachings. But there are also some who let this bad teaching "into their house." They support these people, contrary to Scripture! I am not speaking of soteriological or eschatological arguments that are within the bounds of orthodox Christianity. I am speaking of false doctrines which literally lead you away from God.

Things like don't even think twice about your "failures," (sin appears to have fallen out of favour, as a word which the entire gospel is predicated on.) Or, experience trumps the word of God. Someone told me in another thread, that they have felt electricity running through their body when the Holy Spirit touched them. Really? How about a kundalini spirit? How about experience, never trumps the word of God? Just show me where any disciple had an "electric spirit" run through their body when God saved them.

Sure, tongues of fire, a sound like a rushing wind happened on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2, but no where else. And tongues as a witness in a few places in Acts. But kundalini electricity? That is just scary.

I have always regretted the time I wasted in the New Age movement through the 1970s. Ten years wasted, I always thought. But now, as I see these evil concepts creeping into the church, I reflect gladly that God allowed me to go through that, so now I can stand against that evil from Satan. Truly, God does work all these together for good.

My dedication to this site, is based on the fact that too many greet people resulting in them being a part of the evil deeds of these false teachers. If these people are lost, and will not be corrected, that is between them and God. But there are so many newbies, so many "guests" who read these threads without even joining, and I want them to read the truths laid out in the Bible, not the false new supposed revelations, or the exegetical nonsense and lies some are posting as truth.

So, are you greeting those with false teachings, and thereby sharing in their evil deeds? Or are you standing for Biblical truth?
What is holy that should not be given dogs?
 

Angela53510

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Is it false teaching to misquote someone Angela? Or add to someone's post? I said nothing about being saved with these experiences.

The first time it was at and Intercessors Conference and it hit more than just me.

Theres all all kinds of happenings in the Spirit. Just be careful what you are saying.

Also kundalini is associated with Yoga.

Exactly! And yoga is straight out of Hinduism, which is the basis for the New Age movement. I personally don’t care how many people experienced this phenomena. It is not Scriptural, God has no reason to imitate Hindu phenomena. Don’t let experience over ride Scripture!

As for salvation, I didn’t mean to imply that this “spirit” had anything to do with your salvation! I was clear you thought it was some kind of manifestation of the Holy Spirit. I do not believe it was from the Holy Spirit, but from another source. In fact what you said, along with this verses, 2 John 2:11 are what made me start this thread.

God has no need of so-called “new” revelations. Jesus is all we need. Not counterfeit experiences. Just the small, still voice of God! Be hungry for God, not experiences! You will find him in the pages of the Bible!
 

stonesoffire

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Exactly! And yoga is straight out of Hinduism, which is the basis for the New Age movement. I personally don’t care how many people experienced this phenomena. It is not Scriptural, God has no reason to imitate Hindu phenomena. Don’t let experience over ride Scripture!

As for salvation, I didn’t mean to imply that this “spirit” had anything to do with your salvation! I was clear you thought it was some kind of manifestation of the Holy Spirit. I do not believe it was from the Holy Spirit, but from another source. In fact what you said, along with this verses, 2 John 2:11 are what made me start this thread.

God has no need of so-called “new” revelations. Jesus is all we need. Not counterfeit experiences. Just the small, still voice of God! Be hungry for God, not experiences! You will find him in the pages of the Bible!
Hunger for God is why people experience His touch.

I only told you that because of that article. And you weren't clear about anything. Just ranting and adding your opinions to what was said. I'm not here on this forum to share experiences. Nor teach anything about them so get off your dead horse.

Why so bitter?
 

FlSnookman7

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I find that in text we sometimes misunderstand the motivation behind what is being posted. I believe it is important to remember that we are to love one another ESPECIALLY when we disagree.

:)
 

Nehemiah6

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So, what is John saying here? He is warning us not to greet false teachers. He says that even "greeting" these teachers means you are sharing in their deeds! Ouch!

So, what does that mean for forums like CC, where people not only post false doctrine, but they post the constant lies of certain deceivers, and with joy!
Just as giving aid and comfort to the enemies of your country is treason, given aid, comfort, encouragement, greetings (God speed), or promotion to false teachers is treason against God and Christ. That is why John gives us this severe warning. We become as guilty and culpable as the false teachers themselves.

Now while John was addressing the Gnostic attacks on the Person of Christ and particularly His full deity and full humanity (that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh) "the doctrine of Christ" by extension means Bible truth. And those who falsify or pervert the Gospel or Bible truth are to be shunned, not encouraged so that they continue to preach and teach their lies.

Those visiting this site should remember that their is a spiritual battle whenever the Gospel is presented, and generally that battle begins with attacks on the Bible and Bible truth. Therefore it is imperative for all to read and study Scripture in order to sift the chaff from the wheat.
 
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It would seem he is identifying the kind of work that the spirit of the antichrist would bring. I don’t think it’s necessarily we don’t greet people who we have disagreement with. It is different if they insist that they have the truth and we must be taught by them. A red flag I would think would go up.

How could we greet them the next time seeing it would seem that have blasphemed the Spirit not seen. By insisting we need to seek their approval and not according to His loving commandment to study so we can seek the approval of one not seen.

They who insist they need to teach and not the Spirit of Christ that dwells in the believer have revealed themselves a workers with the antichrists.

Blasphemy will be forgiven of us if we do seek after their approval as that seen and find out we were following error .But Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit not seen, cannot be forgiven on their part . They are the kind of spirits of error that comes out by prayer and fasting (the work of the gospel)

The teaching in 2 John 1:11 is part of the warning found in 1 John.Three times he stresses antichrists.

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, "even now" are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need "not" that "any man" teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide inhim. 1Jo 2:18-28
 
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7seasrekeyed

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But, others post subtle lies, using bad (or more likely NO!) exegesis. They will post anything that confirms the latest revelation, the latest teaching, even if it is not Biblical. Even if it directly contradicts what the Bible says. And, they will not listen to correction.
from the op ^^^


well, they believe they have liberty in the spirit...but fail to question which spirit it is that is giving them all this 'liberty' and this spirit needs to move 'outside' of scripture and consistently offers 'new revelation' that is NOT IN CONFORMITY with scripture and denies what Paul said about 'ANOTHER JESUS'


 

Joseppi

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Many bring corrupt bibles imbued with spirit of antichrist into their homes and never notice.
 

Joseppi

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Many posters say they have faith and love the truth but go backwards to Greek and Hebrew to change what God has written in plain English.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Many posters say they have faith and love the truth but go backwards to Greek and Hebrew to change what God has written in plain English.
say what?

LOL!
 

Prov910

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So who gets to decide what is biblical and what isn't? There are dozens, maybe hundreds, of doctrinal issues and practices that various protestant denominations disagree on. And here on CC when people try to discuss an issue and ask questions to sort things out for themselves, they often meet with rude, acerbic responses and accusations of hypocrisy—sometimes coming from ministers or other members of the clergy who post here.

How can one decide what those evil false teachings are, and seek the truth? What's a person to do? :)
 

Joseppi

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If men know God has given them the scriptures in plain English, then explain to me why they return to Greek and Hebrew?

Do you suppose you can, by going back to Greek and Hebrew texts, present some revelation of God not already plainly written in English?

My point is, that the desire to return to Greek and Hebrew is based on not believing there is a Holy Bible.
I brought this up because I see false teachers love to rewrite the scriptures so as to present a lie.
 

Enoch987

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Call me a heretic. I used to believe in historical Christianity. Look at 2 John closely. Believe in the Father and Son. What about the Holy Spirit? First John 2:1 says that Jesus is the Advocate/Counselor. lower case advocate in ESV. Advocate is not in NIV.

First John 1. The begotten of God does not sin but if they sin they confess and God forgives.
surface meaning: We are saved by confessing sin.
deeper meaning: First John defends the gospel of John. The gospel of John does not include the temptations of Jesus, does not name the garden across the Kidron valley where Jesus was arrested (18:1) where Jesus had his night of doubt also not mentioned in John. First John explains the begotten of God does not sin. (3:9) It becomes confusing when bibles translated begotten of God and born of God but it is the same. John does not believe Jesus was tempted.
John was friends with James because they were on the Jerusalem city council. James wrote (1:13) that God cannot be tempted. John believes this. John believes Jesus is equal to God (5:18).
First John 5:7. Father Son and Holy Spirit is not in modern bibles. this phrase was inserted in the manuscript, I believe because someone pointed out that since water and blood are things then the Holy Spirit may not be a person. The phrase Father,Son and HolySpirit makes 3 persons.
The professor likely has a doctorate in theology. To get a doctorate, you have to sit before a panel that tests you on whether you can interpret the Bible according to the Creeds.
I would not want to be that person when they stand before the Lord because they didn't rightly teach the truth.
Another verse corrupted is Luke 9:35. God choose Jesus. What does chosen son mean?
God choose Abel and his sacrifice over Cain and his sacrifice. Those are the words of Genesis and Hebrews.
choose does not mean that the FAther decided the Son would die for our sins.
chosen means there is a choice.
The Father choose the Son to be creator. Proverbs 8:22>.
The Father choose the Son to be the God of Israel, the first and last, before or after there is no other.
The Father gave the Son the title YHWH. Both are YHWH.
The Father is YHWH God of hosts. TheSon is YHWY of hosts. There is a Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 7-10. Jeremiah 50-51.
The Holy Spirit is with the Father and Son in 2 Corinthians at the end and Titus 3 and Numbers 6.
Jesus is not the Most HIgh God. Sit here at my side until I put all of your enemies under your feet said YHWY to David's Adonai. Deuteronomy 32:8-9. the Most High divided the nations. YHWH's portion is Israel.
I would not want to be a teacher of Trinitarian when I stand before the Lord calling other believers as heretics instead of gently explaining where they are in error.