Continuous existence vs. copying

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trofimus

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I do not now if you know computer game called SOMA.

Its an interesting game. There is more to it, but I will get to the main end. You, as the character in the game, are trying to escape underwater world full of insane robots. You will copy your memories into a rocket ship and set it off.

Now, you will awake on the ship, happy that you escaped the horror down there. Its you.

But, you will also awake down there, still sitting in the chair where you copied your memories into a ship.

While the person in the space ship is only your copy (even though he will never realize this), your real "you" is sitting and dying down there.

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Now. If a person really dies and will be resurrected in the end of the world, its not the same original person, but only a precise copy.

Therefore there must always be a continuous existence of our "me".

How is this "me" located in our mortal bodies? Information stored in a computer will cease after the computer is shut down. It can be renewed, it will be the same, but not "the" same, if you know what I mean.

Any thoughts about this?

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I believe in a continuous existence. Now, if our existence is not rooted in our physical bodies, how is it that the damage of our brain can alter our soul's capability?

Any thought about this? How is our body and soul connected, related? Or is there some kind of duality?
 
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Waggles

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49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear
the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom
of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall
all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet
shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have
put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,
Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Corinthians 15:

Our spirit and the Holy Spirit within us [if you have the Holy Spirit] will
"united" and transform us into new heavenly spiritual beings.
We will not be copies of our previous mortal selves.

 

Waggles

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39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh
of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one,
and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of
the stars: for one star differs from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness;
it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body,
and there is a spiritual body.
1Corinthians 15:
 

Adstar

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Now. If a person really dies and will be resurrected in the end of the world, its not the same original person, but only a precise copy.
There is no Biblical basis for this statement.. A copy is not made.. We are reasurected and given new eternal bodies....
 

Adstar

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I believe in a continuous existence. Now, if our existence is not rooted in our physical bodies, how is it that the damage of our brain can alter our soul's capability?
A modern cars computer control unit can malfunction.. It does not mean the driver of the car has ceased to exist.. It just means his current drive has come to an end..

We are Spirit and are currently experiencing physical life and it's limitations in the vehicle of our current bodies.. If we are given a new body in the future we are still the ones experiencing eternity in it..
 

tanakh

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I read somewhere that every cell in our body are replaced every seven years so its not difficult for God to transform a whole body in a split second. None of us have the original body we were born with otherwise we couldn't function as adults. So having a spiritual body to live in he spiritual realm makes sense.