The Power Of The Cross

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What voids out the "Power of the Cross" (Grace), in a Born-again Believers life?
 

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What voids out the "Power of the Cross" (Grace), in a Born-again Believers life?
Sining willfully- premeditated, without goal and effort to stop. “But if you win willfully there no longer remains a sacrifice for your sins.” Hebrews 10:26
 
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What voids out the "Power of the Cross" (Grace), in a Born-again Believers life?
Zero, nothing is more powerful than the power of the cross (and resurrection) in the believer's life. No amount of sin can negate God's saving power. If so, we're all doomed.
 
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What voids out the "Power of the Cross" (Grace), in a Born-again Believers life?
Faith that is not placed and maintained exclusively in Christ and the Cross, i.e., The Finished Work, i.e., The Blood of Jesus (Romans 8:2), cancels out the grace of God in your life that the Cross of Christ achieved for you (1 Cor. 1:17; Gal. 2:21). Christ is become of no effect unto you (Gal. 5:4).

The Cross of Christ is as necessary for sanctification as it is for salvation (1 Cor. 1:18).

The Apostle Paul said, "I am determine to know no any thing among you, except Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified (1 Cor. 2:2)." Why would Paul say that? Because that is the only solution. Many Believers have been given a sugar pill.
 
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Anything outside of the "Message of the Cross" is darkness.
 
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Remember Peter getting out of the boat to walk on water and then he looked at the storm and started sinking and JESUS asked him,where did you doubt?
 

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Faith that is not placed and maintained exclusively in Christ and the Cross, i.e., The Finished Work, i.e., The Blood of Jesus (Romans 8:2), cancels out the grace of God in your life that the Cross of Christ achieved for you (1 Cor. 1:17; Gal. 2:21). Christ is become of no effect unto you (Gal. 5:4).

The Cross of Christ is as necessary for sanctification as it is for salvation (1 Cor. 1:18).

The Apostle Paul said, "I am determine to know no any thing among you, except Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified (1 Cor. 2:2)." Why would Paul say that? Because that is the only solution. Many Believers have been given a sugar pill.
The saved believer is sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption, which is the adoption. Once the blood is applied, nothing cancels it out.
 
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Anything outside of the "Message of the Cross" is darkness.
If you could strengthen your brother so that he would easily gain understanding,how would you describe In words so that everyone would easily understand exactly what Is meant by “message of the cross”?
 
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If you could strengthen your brother so that he would easily gain understanding,how would you describe In words so that everyone would easily understand exactly what Is meant by “message of the cross”?
God has chosen to operate His work from the basis of faith. "The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus" (Romans 8:2) is God's prescribed order of victory for the Believer over sin, the world, the flesh, and the Devil. This means that the Believer must place and maintain proper Faith the size of a mustard seed exclusively in Christ and the Cross of Calvary, i.e., The Finished Work, i.e., The Blood of Jesus, where the victory was won so that His life would be lived through you. This gives the Holy Spirit the legal means to help and do what is needed to be done in the Believers life because the Believer is glorifying Christ, God's beloved Son in whom He is pleased. You are now operating in the spirit. No Believer can fix the flesh with the flesh. All fruits that are added to the leaves of the Believer most be done by the Holy Spirit or you enter the works of the flesh (Gal. 5:19-21).
The Holy Spirit doesn't require much of us, but He does require one thing, and without reservation.

Our Faith must be exclusively be in Christ and the Cross; understanding that this is God's Prescribed Order of Victory (Rom. 8:2).

The Holy Spirit works strictly within the parameters of the "Finished Work" i.e., "The Cross of Christ" i.e., "The Blood of Jesus;" which demands that our Faith be placed and maintained exclusively in the Cross of Christ. The reason is simple, that's were the price was paid, and the victory was forever won (Romans 6:1-14; 1 Cor. 2:2; Gal. 5; Gal. 6:14; Eph. 2:13-18; Col. 2:14-15).


Victory over sin: Romans 8:2

Victory over the world: Galatians 6:14; 1 John 5:4

Victory over the flesh: Galatians 5:24
Victory over the Devil:Hebrews 2:14; Colossians 2:15


The Apostle Paul makes it very clear in Romans 8:10
that the physical body, mind / intellect, and the heart (which is evil - Jeremiah 17:9) has been rendered helpless because of the original sin; consequently, the Believer trying to overcome by willpower presents a fruitless task. Only the Holy Spirit can mortify the deeds of the flesh and make us what we ought to be (Romans 8:13). This means we cannot do it ourselves. Once again, He performs all that He does within the confines of the Finished Work of Christ (Romans 8:2).


If a Christian will and their efforts to live for God is in anything except Christ and the Cross, i.e., Finished Work, The Blood of Jesus (Romans 8:2), Satan can override your will and force you to do things you don't want to do and trying not to do (Ephesians 6:12). Jesus said deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow me (Luke 9:23).

Remember our bodies are dead and useless to God. The heart is prone to wander away from God's love and eat from "The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." The reason why the body is dead is because of the effects of the fall has made us totally incapable of yielding spiritual obedience on a regular basis (Jeremiah 13:23). So there must be a source outside of myself that helps me to enter into sanctification which is the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:13).


Note: The Believer must repent not just for the bad they are doing, but also for the good they are doing. Why? Because the Believer can depend on the good to get them through (Jer. 6:13-15). Good things will always follow right living. However, that is not God's way. His way is Faith exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work (Rev. 3:17-22).


How does a Believer maintain Faith exclusively in Christ and the Cross? By just believing in Jesus (who He is - John 1:1-14) and what He accomplished at Calvary Cross where the victory was one. Romans 4:5
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Galatians 2:19-21 NKJV
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1 Corinthians 1:18-25 NKJV
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Colossians 2:11-15 NKJV[SUB][/SUB]

 
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God has chosen to operate His work from the basis of faith. "The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus" (Romans 8:2) is God's prescribed order of victory for the Believer over sin, the world, the flesh, and the Devil. This means that the Believer must place and maintain proper Faith the size of a mustard seed exclusively in Christ and the Cross of Calvary, i.e., The Finished Work, i.e., The Blood of Jesus, where the victory was won so that His life would be lived through you. This gives the Holy Spirit the legal means to help and do what is needed to be done in the Believers life because the Believer is glorifying Christ, God's beloved Son in whom He is pleased. You are now operating in the spirit. No Believer can fix the flesh with the flesh. All fruits that are added to the leaves of the Believer most be done by the Holy Spirit or you enter the works of the flesh (Gal. 5:19-21).

The Holy Spirit doesn't require much of us, but He does require one thing, and without reservation.
Our Faith must be exclusively be in Christ and the Cross; understanding that this is God's Prescribed Order of Victory (Rom. 8:2).

The Holy Spirit works strictly within the parameters of the "Finished Work" i.e., "The Cross of Christ" i.e., "The Blood of Jesus;" which demands that our Faith be placed and maintained exclusively in the Cross of Christ. The reason is simple, that's were the price was paid, and the victory was forever won (
Romans 6:1-14; 1 Cor. 2:2; Gal. 5; Gal. 6:14; Eph. 2:13-18; Col. 2:14-15).

Victory over sin: Romans 8:2
Victory over the world: Galatians 6:14; 1 John 5:4
Victory over the flesh: Galatians 5:24
Victory over the Devil:Hebrews 2:14; Colossians 2:15

The Apostle Paul makes it very clear in Romans 8:10 that the physical body, mind / intellect, and the heart (which is evil - Jeremiah 17:9) has been rendered helpless because of the original sin; consequently, the Believer trying to overcome by willpower presents a fruitless task. Only the Holy Spirit can mortify the deeds of the flesh and make us what we ought to be (Romans 8:13). This means we cannot do it ourselves. Once again, He performs all that He does within the confines of the Finished Work of Christ (Romans 8:2).

If a Christian will and their efforts to live for God is in anything except Christ and the Cross, i.e., Finished Work, The Blood of Jesus (Romans 8:2), Satan can override your will and force you to do things you don't want to do and trying not to do (Ephesians 6:12). Jesus said deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow me (Luke 9:23).

Remember our bodies are dead and useless to God. The heart is prone to wander away from God's love and eat from "The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." The reason why the body is dead is because of the effects of the fall has made us totally incapable of yielding spiritual obedience on a regular basis (Jeremiah 13:23). So there must be a source outside of myself that helps me to enter into sanctification which is the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:13).

Note: The Believer must repent not just for the bad they are doing, but also for the good they are doing. Why? Because the Believer can depend on the good to get them through (Jer. 6:13-15). Good things will always follow right living. However, that is not God's way. His way is Faith exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work (Rev. 3:17-22).

How does a Believer maintain Faith exclusively in Christ and the Cross? By just believing in Jesus (who He is - John 1:1-14) and what He accomplished at Calvary Cross where the victory was one. Romans 4:5 - Galatians 2:19-21 NKJV - 1 Corinthians 1:18-25 NKJV -
Colossians 2:11-15 NKJV

The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and the Law of Sin and Death are the two most powerful Laws in the Universe; the "Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus" alone is stronger than the "Law of Sin and Death"; this means that if the Believer attempts to live for God by any manner other than Faith in Christ and the Cross, i.e, "The Finished Work", i.e., "The Blood of Jesus," they are doomed to failure.

If a Christians faith is not maintain exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work, i.e., The Cross, i.e., The BLOOD of Jesus, the works of the flesh will manifest.

Paul tells us this in the 5th Chapter of Galatians.
The entire Book of Galatians, but especially the 5th Chapter, is a warning from Paul to the Church at Galatia, which is also meant for us. The warning is that if they place their faith in anything except “Christ and Him Crucified,” that “Christ shall profit you nothing” (Gal. 5:2).

The Apostle goes on to say that if the Believer doesn’t adhere to the Way of the Spirit, which is the Way of the Cross, then works of the flesh will manifest themselves. He said:

“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the Kingdom of God” (Gal. 5:19-21).

Now let me say it again, because it is so very important:
If the Believer doesn’t understand the Cross of Christ, as it regards Sanctification, then, in some way, one or more of these “works of the flesh” are going to manifest themselves in his life. As stated, such is inevitable! The first four, “Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, and lasciviousness,” are obvious and easily understood. But the modern Christian quickly dismisses “idolatry, witchcraft, and heresies,” thinking they do not really apply today.

Everything that mans does dies; everything Jesus does lives forever and is blessed. Psalm 1:3

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What voids out the "Power of the Cross" (Grace), in a Born-again Believers life?
Nothing.

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[SUP] [/SUP]neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.[Romans 8:38,39]
 
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Nothing.

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.[Romans 8:38,39]
He loved us enough to give His Life on the Cross, which alone makes us "more than conquerors". This Love of God extended to us is made possible solely by Christ, and what He has done for us at the Cross; once again, this is God's Love for us, which never wavers because we are "in Christ Jesus".

We are protected against all outside influence, but not from ourselves. If a person so desires, he can separate himself from the Love of Christ by rejecting the Cross.

Again: The Cross of Christ is as necessary for sanctification as it is for salvation (1 Cor. 1:18).
 
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What voids out the "Power of the Cross" (Grace), in a Born-again Believers life?
Are you talking about before salvation or after salvation because before salvation nothing voids the power of the cross but we do have to do our part and that Is to believe In the WORD of GOD?

After salvation the answer would still be nothing voids the power of the cross but If you don't use faith Grace will not flow.
 

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The ""Power"" Of The Gospel

Sources: KJ Bible, Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words & Strongs Concordance

The Greek word "dunamis" translates in english to the word Power;

"Dunamis" is where we get the english word Dynamite.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

The gospel of Christ, is the ""Dynamite Power of God"" That leads us to salvation. Offered to anyone that, places thier faith in the redemptive sin atoning sacrifice. Found in the death (sins wage paid) butial & resurrection (God's receipt, payment received) of Jesus the Christ)

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

QUESTION: Does Rom 1:16 say: to everyone that does good works? Or to everyone that keeps the law? Or to everyone that is baptized? Or to everyone that joins a Church? Or everyone that tithes?

ANSWER: NO! Scriprure doesn't say any of those things. It clearly says: To everyone that "believeth" the Gospel.

Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation

Supporting scripture on belief/FAITH alone: John 3:15, John 3:16, John 3:18, John 3:36, John 5:24, John 6:35, John 6:40, John 6:47, John 11:25, John 11:26, Act 10:43, Rom 9:33, Rom 10:11 & 13, 1 Pet 2:6, 1 Jn 5:5.
 
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Are you talking about before salvation or after salvation because before salvation nothing voids the power of the cross but we do have to do our part and that Is to believe In the WORD of GOD?

After salvation the answer would still be nothing voids the power of the cross but If you don't use faith Grace will not flow.

The Cross of Christ must be exclusively forever be the object of the Christian faith (i.e., finished work of Christ - The Blood of Jesus). That's the reason our Lord said we must take up the Cross daily (Luke 9:23). To take up the Cross and follow Christ means that we are to place our faith totally in Christ and what Christ did at the Cross and leave it there. If we choose to ignore God's way, the intrusion of human wisdom (mans point of view), and worldliness enters your life and home. In other words the Cross of Christ is demoted and human wisdom is elevated. When this takes place, the Cross of Christ (The Power Of God) is immediately voided and cancelled out of a Christians life that works in them (Gal. 2:21). Paul says that God intentionally, on purpose, rejects the wisdom of this world and makes foolish. He disrupts, frustrates, confuse any attempts of anyone knowing independently of His way and makes sure it doesn't work (1Cor. 1:17-31). God has made it abundantly clear that He is going to show you who the fool is...and He says, "it won't be Me!" When the wisdom of God has the final say, it can be appealed to for power. Why? Because the Cross of Christ exist to deal with sin. If there is a problem, there is a sin. It could be your sin, somebody else's sin, or both of your sins. The reason why the world can't fix its problems, is because they don't want to take serious and deal with it sins. Therefore things are voided. This is why prayers aren't being answered...they are voided.