Who are the two witnesses/prophets in Revelation?
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I had posted this in another thread, and it will help you understand why Enoch is not in the equation.
1. The OT and NT saints are very much alive in Heaven, and worshiping God (Heb 12:22-24). So nobody is coming back FROM THE DEAD.
2. John the Baptist came in the spirit and power of Elijah, but he was NOT a reincarnation of Elijah. Indeed he plainly declared that he was NOT Elijah.
And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? [Elijah] And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? [Christ] And he answered, No. (John 1:21).
3. Elijah MUST return to earth before the Day of the LORD (which is the Great Tribulation).
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. (Malachi 4:5,6)
4. The Day of the LORD is triggered by the Abomination of Desolation which is set up by the Antichrist (the Beast of Revelation 13). The time periods mentioned in Rev 11 and 13 are identical, meaning that these two witnesses testify during the reign of the Antichrist.
But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. (Rev 11:2)
And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (Rev 13:5).
5. There is absolutely no basis for claiming that the appearance of Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration was "a vision" (not a real-time event). That is merely your assumption, but Scripture says that they actually appeared "in glory" (glorified) when Christ was transfigured, and SPOKE WITH HIM regarding His decease (exodus).
And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: [Elijah] Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. (Luke 9:30,31)
6. The miracles which the two witnesses (who are prophets) perform most closely resemble the miracles which Moses and Elijah performed while on earth.
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.(Rev 11:6)
1. The OT and NT saints are very much alive in Heaven, and worshiping God (Heb 12:22-24). So nobody is coming back FROM THE DEAD.
2. John the Baptist came in the spirit and power of Elijah, but he was NOT a reincarnation of Elijah. Indeed he plainly declared that he was NOT Elijah.
And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? [Elijah] And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? [Christ] And he answered, No. (John 1:21).
3. Elijah MUST return to earth before the Day of the LORD (which is the Great Tribulation).
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. (Malachi 4:5,6)
4. The Day of the LORD is triggered by the Abomination of Desolation which is set up by the Antichrist (the Beast of Revelation 13). The time periods mentioned in Rev 11 and 13 are identical, meaning that these two witnesses testify during the reign of the Antichrist.
But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. (Rev 11:2)
And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (Rev 13:5).
5. There is absolutely no basis for claiming that the appearance of Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration was "a vision" (not a real-time event). That is merely your assumption, but Scripture says that they actually appeared "in glory" (glorified) when Christ was transfigured, and SPOKE WITH HIM regarding His decease (exodus).
And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: [Elijah] Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. (Luke 9:30,31)
6. The miracles which the two witnesses (who are prophets) perform most closely resemble the miracles which Moses and Elijah performed while on earth.
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.(Rev 11:6)
The problem that I have with Moses as being one of the witnesses is that, he physically died and God himself buried him. And though he appeared to Jesus with Elijah, I don't believe that he was in his resurrected body, because the resurrection hasn't taken place yet. Jesus is the first fruits of those who rise from the dead and then we at His appearing. Also, if someone wanted to claim that Moses had been resurrected, then it would mean that he would have died, been resurrected and will die again and be resurrected again. And regarding Moses being resurrected, that would be pure conjecture because we have no scripture stating that this took place.
Regarding those in heaven, they are in their spiritual state and will remain that way until the resurrection where at which time they will receive their immortal and glorified bodies.
Regarding Elijah coming first, what do you think of the following. Also I might add that the words "before the coming of the great dreadful day of the LORD" does not necessarily mean right directly before it happens, as anytime before it happens would fulfill that prophecy, including John the Baptist as a type of Elijah.
Regarding this, all John said was that he was not literally Elijah. But as Jesus revealed, he was that Elijah that was to come, as a type.
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"The disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”
Jesus replied, “Elijah does indeed come, and he will restore all things. But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him whatever they wished. In the same way, the Son of Man will suffer at their hands.”
Then the disciples understood that He was speaking to them about John the Baptist.
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Regarding Elijah coming first, what do you think of the following. Also I might add that the words "before the coming of the great dreadful day of the LORD" does not necessarily mean right directly before it happens, as anytime before it happens would fulfill that prophecy, including John the Baptist as a type of Elijah.
Regarding this, all John said was that he was not literally Elijah, which was the truth. But as Jesus revealed, he was that Elijah that was to come, as a type.
That's just my two cents on this subject.
Regarding those in heaven, they are in their spiritual state and will remain that way until the resurrection where at which time they will receive their immortal and glorified bodies.
Regarding Elijah coming first, what do you think of the following. Also I might add that the words "before the coming of the great dreadful day of the LORD" does not necessarily mean right directly before it happens, as anytime before it happens would fulfill that prophecy, including John the Baptist as a type of Elijah.
Regarding this, all John said was that he was not literally Elijah. But as Jesus revealed, he was that Elijah that was to come, as a type.
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"The disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”
Jesus replied, “Elijah does indeed come, and he will restore all things. But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him whatever they wished. In the same way, the Son of Man will suffer at their hands.”
Then the disciples understood that He was speaking to them about John the Baptist.
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Regarding Elijah coming first, what do you think of the following. Also I might add that the words "before the coming of the great dreadful day of the LORD" does not necessarily mean right directly before it happens, as anytime before it happens would fulfill that prophecy, including John the Baptist as a type of Elijah.
Regarding this, all John said was that he was not literally Elijah, which was the truth. But as Jesus revealed, he was that Elijah that was to come, as a type.
That's just my two cents on this subject.
Because Jesus gave us this end-time information and the book of Revelation so that we could make it known to others. Regarding the book of Revelation the Lord said:
"I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the bright Morning Star.”
"I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the bright Morning Star.”
