What does faith in Christ mean to you?
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Salvation, yes, but there is so much more. Faith that He is interacting with me in a personal way. Faith that He holds my life in His hands for His purposes. Faith that He is living in me and His anointing flows within me. Faith that I'm under His grace and mercy (not my works). Faith that He will continue to inspire, motivate and mold me in His image. Faith that He never will leave me.
I could go on and on. But to have this kind of faith, you need to meet Jesus in the scriptures where He reveals Himself in all of His workings on our behalf, and know what He has promised to you. Where He reveals his character and great love for you.
I could go on and on. But to have this kind of faith, you need to meet Jesus in the scriptures where He reveals Himself in all of His workings on our behalf, and know what He has promised to you. Where He reveals his character and great love for you.
Why would you need to believe He is interacting with you in a personal way, if you knew He is interacting with you in a personal way? Fact is, until the Lord comes as a thief in the night, the Lord is then currently interacting with everyone in a personal way.
The same holds true for the rest of your claims, if you know you are a believer in His Way.
So now I ask: What is Christs Way that you claim to have faith in?
The same holds true for the rest of your claims, if you know you are a believer in His Way.
So now I ask: What is Christs Way that you claim to have faith in?
God saves us by grace. We learn of Gods grace through hearing Gods word. We believe Gods word and receive forgiveness of our sins and eternal salvation. Faith is how we accept that we can do nothing to earn salvation and that our only hope is in the atonement Christ made for us.
Faith is giving up all hope in our selves and our good works and relying solely on what Christ has done for us to rectify the offense our sin has made with God.
Faith is believing that God said it and there is no question that it is eternal Truth.
Isa 59:1 Behold, the LORD’S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Faith is giving up all hope in our selves and our good works and relying solely on what Christ has done for us to rectify the offense our sin has made with God.
Faith is believing that God said it and there is no question that it is eternal Truth.
Isa 59:1 Behold, the LORD’S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
For the cause of Christ
Roger
I know the often claimed scriptures about grace leading to Salvation; what I want to know is the definition of what people claim to believe in, but do not understand what they are claiming?
You claim you hear Gods Word, and that as a result, the Lord decides to forgive your sins and provide eternal salvation.
As such, I then would like an explantion as to why hearing Gods Word leads to the Lord forgiving your sins and providing you with eternal salvation.
Here again you make a statement about faith, but without elaborating on what it is you have faith/belief in that makes you do what you do.
Even the devils believe that God said what He said, and that there is no question to His truth (James 2:19).
And so we are back to square one, as to what it is that faith in Christ that leads to true salvation means.
James 2:19 [FONT="]Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.[/FONT]
You claim you hear Gods Word, and that as a result, the Lord decides to forgive your sins and provide eternal salvation.
As such, I then would like an explantion as to why hearing Gods Word leads to the Lord forgiving your sins and providing you with eternal salvation.
Here again you make a statement about faith, but without elaborating on what it is you have faith/belief in that makes you do what you do.
Even the devils believe that God said what He said, and that there is no question to His truth (James 2:19).
And so we are back to square one, as to what it is that faith in Christ that leads to true salvation means.
James 2:19 [FONT="]Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.[/FONT]
You claim to be a Christian yet you question the scriptural imperative to believe on Jesus Christ.
Well the Holy Spirit is the part of the Godhead that brings men to Christ.
7 ¶ Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Well the Holy Spirit is the part of the Godhead that brings men to Christ.
7 ¶ Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Even though you are correct in that these things automatically happen in a Christian's life, there are times when you do not see evidence of it or your own logic begins to wonder. That is when FAITH kicks in and you believe - when times are the most difficult.
You might never experience this the way that I have, but I was only sharing what is real to me. I didn't mean to get analytical about it.
About the faith unto salvation, I have to accept by faith that my sins were dealt with on the cross and I now have been given the righteousness of Christ which means I have right standing with God FOREVER. And I will be with him for eternity.
I'm not sure what answer you are looking for - what would you say?
You might never experience this the way that I have, but I was only sharing what is real to me. I didn't mean to get analytical about it.
About the faith unto salvation, I have to accept by faith that my sins were dealt with on the cross and I now have been given the righteousness of Christ which means I have right standing with God FOREVER. And I will be with him for eternity.
I'm not sure what answer you are looking for - what would you say?
Faith is the entire person in the right relationship with God through the power of the Spirit of Jesus Christ. No one could have had a more sensitive love in human relationship than Jesus; and yet He says there are times when love to father and mother must be hatred in comparison to our love for Him.
There are so many of the 30,000+ Christian denominations putting a pretty face on what faith in Christ means, but these are erroneous criteria.
We all know the Lord being the giver of all life. This is not faith in Christ leading to Salvation.
We all know He will fullfill His promises to the faithful. This is not faith in Christ leading to Salvation.
These and many, many other cliches are used to explain what faith in Christ represents, but they are not the faith/belief in Christ that leads to salvation.
Faith/belief in Christ is believing in what Christ believed in.
Christ believed in loving his neighbor. Christ believed in truth. Christ believed in justice.
If you believe in loving your neighbor, you then believe in Christ that leads to salvation.
The Samaritan in Luke 10, believed in loving his neighbor, and therefore believed in Christ, though never having heard of Him.
Let's get out of kindergarten cliches already, and start understanding what true faith/belief in Christ represents.
The devils who believe in Christ, believe/know that He is the son of God, they do not believe in His Way of love, justice, and truth.
We all know the Lord being the giver of all life. This is not faith in Christ leading to Salvation.
We all know He will fullfill His promises to the faithful. This is not faith in Christ leading to Salvation.
These and many, many other cliches are used to explain what faith in Christ represents, but they are not the faith/belief in Christ that leads to salvation.
Faith/belief in Christ is believing in what Christ believed in.
Christ believed in loving his neighbor. Christ believed in truth. Christ believed in justice.
If you believe in loving your neighbor, you then believe in Christ that leads to salvation.
The Samaritan in Luke 10, believed in loving his neighbor, and therefore believed in Christ, though never having heard of Him.
Let's get out of kindergarten cliches already, and start understanding what true faith/belief in Christ represents.
The devils who believe in Christ, believe/know that He is the son of God, they do not believe in His Way of love, justice, and truth.
The wage of sin is death. Adam's sin put all mankind under the death sentence.
The redemptive sin atoning sacrifice of a sinless Christ pays the laws required wage DEATH.
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
(NOTE: The beginning of Faith is seen in the 2 above verses. By the faith ""OF"" Christ)
Heb 12:2 (A) Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;
(NOTE: Faith begins & ends with Christ)
2 Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
(NOTE: A sinless Christ became sin. So that others may become the righteousness of God)
Rom 1:17 (A) For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written
NOTE: The redemption process began with Christ's faithful unto death payment. Now our faith is needed to comples the redemption process)
Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
(NOTE: I can now thru my faith placed in Christ's payment & resurrection (God's receipet, sin payment received) access God's grace)
Rom 3:22 "The righteousness of God comes thru FAITH in Jesus Christ" to ALL and upon ALL that believe
(NOTE: When I place my faith in Christ's sin redemptive payment. I become righteous in Gods sight)
IMPUTE = TRANSFERED
Rom 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Rom 4:23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Rom 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Phil 3:9 Being found in him, not having our own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is thru the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith
Hi Louis,
Synopsis, A faithful Christ's atonement paid sins required wage DEATH. When I place my faith/trust in his payment. God transfers my sins onto Christ & Christ's righteousness onto me. And I become the righteousness of God thru Christ.
See 1 Cor 15:1-4 & Rom 10:9-10.
2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, & called us with an holy calling, not according to our works but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Ephesians 2:8 By grace are ye saved through faith not of yourselves it is the gift of God
The redemptive sin atoning sacrifice of a sinless Christ pays the laws required wage DEATH.
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
(NOTE: The beginning of Faith is seen in the 2 above verses. By the faith ""OF"" Christ)
Heb 12:2 (A) Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;
(NOTE: Faith begins & ends with Christ)
2 Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
(NOTE: A sinless Christ became sin. So that others may become the righteousness of God)
Rom 1:17 (A) For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written
NOTE: The redemption process began with Christ's faithful unto death payment. Now our faith is needed to comples the redemption process)
Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
(NOTE: I can now thru my faith placed in Christ's payment & resurrection (God's receipet, sin payment received) access God's grace)
Rom 3:22 "The righteousness of God comes thru FAITH in Jesus Christ" to ALL and upon ALL that believe
(NOTE: When I place my faith in Christ's sin redemptive payment. I become righteous in Gods sight)
IMPUTE = TRANSFERED
Rom 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Rom 4:23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Rom 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Phil 3:9 Being found in him, not having our own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is thru the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith
Hi Louis,
Synopsis, A faithful Christ's atonement paid sins required wage DEATH. When I place my faith/trust in his payment. God transfers my sins onto Christ & Christ's righteousness onto me. And I become the righteousness of God thru Christ.
See 1 Cor 15:1-4 & Rom 10:9-10.
2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, & called us with an holy calling, not according to our works but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Ephesians 2:8 By grace are ye saved through faith not of yourselves it is the gift of God