The Father's Ultimate Intention 3

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Noblemen

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Jan 14, 2018
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The idea of the Fathers intention or the idea that He even had an original intention seems to upset theologians to no end.
So much of their time, theological time, has been spent trying to figure out what the Father is doing by what happened from the beginning with Adam's sin that little time is spent dealing with the Fathers original thoughts concerning His eternal plan.

Modern theology spends most of its time dealing with what happened after the beginning and very little time is spent with what happened before the beginning.
Of course there are only two thoughts before the beginning that have to do with the plan where God would birth his own children.
Both of these thoughts would be the basis for His eternal plan and both of these ideas have to do with the children He would birth himself.

These two thoughts are mentioned fewer than three or four times in the whole of scriptures.
These two thoughts eventually came to form the foundation of His ultimate intention.
These two thoughts are to be found in two Scriptures, Eph. 1:4, and 1 Peter 1:18–20.
The fulfillment of these two verses could only take place in the fathers time and that time came some 4300 years after the creation of the world and humans.
Until the time came to bring these two God-ideas into effect, they were just God-thoughts and, as the scripture say, they were hidden in God from the beginning of the world, Eph. 3:9.

These two scriptures surfaced only when the father was ready to birth His own family.
The in Christ idea would belong only to the born-again, and the father would make it all work through Christ's death on the cross. Some worry with what happens to Israel when Christ died on the cross. His death there is for whosoever believeth Jews, Gentiles or anyone and everyone.
However, all those who are born-again lose their original ethnicity and culture, as well as their old way of living.
They are bona fide, fully birthed children of God.

This was the father's intention from before creation. Nothing in creation changes any part of his original plan.
Those who do not accept Christ on this side of the rapture will have opportunity to accept Him under another plan.
This plan will have to do with Israel, who is still in her rejection of her Messiah, as well as many that come out of the great tribulation.
But none of these fulfill the fathers original intention or are a part of it. By this time His heavenly family is formed and His original plan is completed.
The key to all of this is the difference between the words "before" and "from" or "after."
There are two plans, one before the world was created and one after the world was created.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Dec 20, 2017
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He is making sons who can love him and be obedient to him of their own free will. Once he has accomplished that in us he can lavish on us all manner of wonderful things. Things so awesome that our present human minds cannot even comprehend them.

“no eye has seen,
no ear has heard,
no mind has conceived"
What God has prepared for those who love him

1 Cor 2:9