JESUS CHRIST is our High Priest not Man.

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GOP

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It's true that because of the finished work of the cross, Jesus became our high priest. This means, we no longer have need to approach God through any man, or burnt sacrifice. We come to the Father through our faith in His Son. Jesus has become the way, the truth and the life, our clear and direct access to God (John 14:6). When James encourages us to confess our sins to one another, He isn't speaking about us needing someone to confess our sins to, in order to receive forgives. Jesus has already done that Himself. Rather, James is reiterating what Paul spoke about in 1 Timothy 1:19, where having a clear conscience is what keeps our faith from being shipwrecked.

You see, in order for our prayers to be effective, they must be filled with faith. Faith is the spiritual force that causes the things of the spirit to become our reality, and it's the language God responds to. He said we must believe in order to receive. But while our hearts and minds are plagued by a guilty conscience, because of something we have not dealt with internally, and left at the cross, our faith is not operative and our prayers will not be answered. If you feel for any reason, there is something blocking your prayer life from being effective, go before the Lord today, bear your heart to Him and let go of the guilt that is weighing your conscience down.

You may feel the need to pray with a fellow believer, and be in agreement together over letting go of the weight that shrouds your soul. Then, with a heart that is free from guilt, and full of faith, pray exactly what the Spirit of God puts on your heart, it will be in line with His Word and will carry the power to move those mountains and bring the miraculous into your life, once again.

 

GOP

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Thank You LORD JESUS.
 
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Jesus has become the way, the truth and the life, our clear and direct access to God


Amen, thank you Lord Jesus Christ indeed, for all He has done for the whole world, brother Gop.
 
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God was angry with us and Jesus stepped in and made it right for us. Hes our mediator and our leader he willingly gave his human life so that we may have spiritial life. He gave his life as ransom, in exchange for us.
He paid off the biggest debt we would ever owe.
 
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God was angry with us and Jesus stepped in and made it right for us. Hes our mediator and our leader he willingly gave his human life so that we may have spiritial life. He gave his life as ransom, in exchange for us.
He paid off the biggest debt we would ever owe.
and he did it out of love but most of all he did it cause God sent him to do it
 
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There is only one mediator between God and men....THE MAN CHRIST JESUS........
 
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Acts 2:22
Jesus of Nazareth a MAN approved by God.
Jesus was a human being, not God and as such had to be approved by God. If Jesus had been God he would have no need to be approved by himself.
 

Nehemiah6

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Acts 2:22
Jesus of Nazareth a MAN approved by God.
Jesus was a human being, not God and as such had to be approved by God. If Jesus had been God he would have no need to be approved by himself.
This is good old human reasoning but it has no bearing on the subject. Study the Bible and see that Jesus is indeed God. He is both the Creator and the Savior.

When Christ came to earth He came as the God-Man and totally submitted to the Father. And God the Father fully approved of His Son. But His Son was God the Word -- the Creator -- before He came to the earth.
 
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Actually I have studied the bible for many years and this is true. Jesus isn't God otherwise the bible is false in saying God is eternal when Jesus died.
To say that God needs to die for the sins of man elevates yourself as a god.
Jesus was not in the beginning because if he was he cannot cease to be who He was so he could be born to Mary. He cannot empty himself to be found in fashion as a man because this then makes him greater than God, when scripture clearly says God the Father is greater than Jesus, hence they are not equal.
To say that Jesus could empty himself, is saying God is not omnipotent because a spirit can cease to be.
Which we know is untrue because God is spirit and He is eternal.
 

Ahwatukee

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Actually I have studied the bible for many years and this is true. Jesus isn't God otherwise the bible is false in saying God is eternal when Jesus died.


Greetings DJ777,

Excuse me, but this is faulty exegesis on your part. You think that because Jesus appeared in the flesh that he cannot be God in the flesh. What does the scripture say regarding Christ as God:

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Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel." Isa.7:14

That above is of course a prophecy regarding Jesus as Emmanuel, which means "God with us."

"In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God." - John 1:1

In the scripture above "the Word" is God and Jesus is that Word of God in the flesh.

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Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.”

Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!”

Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

After seeing the Lord's nail prints in his hands and feet he says, "my Lord and my God!" Then Jesus to Thomas "Because you have seen me you believe." Notice that Jesus didn't rebuke Thomas for calling him God.

These are just a few proofs off the top of my head showing Jesus as being God, so how can you say that Jesus is not God? I have a document at home that has every scripture where Jesus is called God or inferred to as being God.

No one other than God could pay the penalty for the sins of mankind.

All of your scriptural references are just contradicting the truth of what they are saying.


 
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Nehemiah6

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Actually I have studied the bible for many years and this is true. Jesus isn't God otherwise the bible is false in saying God is eternal when Jesus died.
The Jehovah's Witnesses and other cultists and heterodox people also study the Bible for many years yet persist in their delusions. It like you have several delusions also, so you have two options (a) start afresh or (b) persist in delusions.
 
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I agree with DJ777.

Studying the Word is how we really GET TO KNOW who God is and build a relationship with Him.

Read 1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

Like this verse says... We got one God, the Father, and one mediator between us and God... Jesus Christ, our Saviour.

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him.

Jesus has the character of God and agreement with God that's why the Bible says "Immanuel (God with us)"
But Jesus is not God Almighty.
We only got ONE GOD, the Father.

Please read Deuteronomy 4:35
Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

!!! What does GOD say, dear souls? !!!

God says in Exodus 20:3
You shall have no other god's before Me.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in HEAVEN ABOVE, or that is in the EARTH BENEATH, or that is in the water UNDER THE EARTH.

For GOD so loved the world, that he gave HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

It's so clear and logical.
Don't follow the crowd.

PS.
I have studied John 1:1, Jesus and Thomas and many other verses that contradict that there is only one God to be wrong, by using the Hebrew and Greek concordance. Men have added and changed verses through the years for people to believe in more than one God.
The devil has worked hard and still does.
Jesus is the only way to God. That's why God gave us His only begotten Son so that we may be able to have a relationship with God. Just like Jesus has a relationship with God His Father, our Father who is in heaven.

1 Corinthians 15:21
For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

God cannot die. Only Jesus Christ could die for our sins because He is God's only begotten Son, sinless.

I was gonna keep it short but yeah...

I know from experience that it is hard to believe that only our Father is God and none else. One thing I do know: I was blind but now I see!
 
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Excuse me, but this is faulty exegesis on your part. You think that because Jesus appeared in the flesh that he cannot be God in the flesh. What does the scripture say regarding Christ as God.....

Actually Numbers 23:19 Says God is not a man(human) nor the son of man
1 Corinthians15:21 says Jesus is a man (human)

Which is right, these verses or your belief God is human??
 
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To say no one else but God could pay the price for our sins is false as it opposes the very scripture in 1 Corinthians 15:21.
I think you are wrong in your understanding of the scriptures as this verse clearly says different to what you believe.
 
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Nehemiah6 I have no delusions whatsoever
 

Zmouth

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But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2 Cor 4:3-4

"Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.”
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Genesis 2:21-22
After seeing the Lord's nail prints in his hands and feet he says, "my Lord and my God!" Then Jesus to Thomas "Because you have seen me you believe." Notice that Jesus didn't rebuke Thomas for calling him God.
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Nehemiah6

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Nehemiah6 I have no delusions whatsoever
The problem with delusional people is that they are not aware that they are deluded. Your primary delusion is that you do not believe that the Bible clearly presents Jesus as God.

There is no question that the Mystery of God cannot be comprehended by the human mind, and only Divine revelation could show us that the Godhead consists of three Divine Persons, who are all God. Yet this is not three “Gods” but ONE God eternally existent as three Persons. This is clearly brought out in Matthew 28:19 (which is indisputably Scripture): Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

Now just ask yourself one question: How can “name” be singular yet three Divine Persons be included in that one name? The only answer is that they are all God.

DELUSION #1
Acts 2:22 Jesus of Nazareth a MAN approved by God. Jesus was a human being, not God and as such had to be approved by God. If Jesus had been God he would have no need to be approved by himself.
In Acts 2:22 (and generally throughout the New Testament) “God” means “God the Father”. So just because God the Father approved God the Son while He was Jesus of Nazareth does not mean that Jesus was “[merely] a human being”. When the Son came to earth, He came to do the Father’s will. And because His will was always submitted to the Father’s will, He was “a Man approved by God”. That did not detract from His deity in the least.

DELUSION #2
Jesus isn't God otherwise the bible is false in saying God is eternal when Jesus died.
You are forgetting that Jesus not only died but rose again after three days, and now lives for evermore. So – in fact – Christ’s death does not detract from His eternality.


DELUSION #3
To say that God needs to die for the sins of man elevates yourself as a god.
Now that is a completely absurd conclusion. The God-Man needed to die for the sins of the whole world because (a) “the wages of sin is death” and (b) only the sinless Son could be a suitable Substitute for all mankind. He paid the sin-debt for the whole world which now makes it possible for God to offer his grace to all mankind.So just as in Adam all “died”, all can receive eternal life in Christ if all will obey the Gospel.

DELUSION #4
Jesus was not in the beginning because if he was he cannot cease to be who He was so he could be born to Mary.
Once again, this is an absurd conclusion. Jesus was always God, and He did not cease to be God just because He was in Mary’s womb. His conception was supernatural – by the power of the Holy Spirit – and He became the God-Man Jesus.

DELUSION #5
He cannot empty himself to be found in fashion as a man because this then makes him greater than God, when scripture clearly says God the Father is greater than Jesus, hence they are not equal.
Once again this is an absurd conclusion. But first of all we need to be very clear as to what “emptied Himself” really means. The KJB is correct in translating that as “he made himself OF NO REPUTATION”. Please note:

Cognate: 2758 kenóō – properly, to empty out, render void; (passive) be emptied – hence, without recognition, perceived as valueless (Phil 2:7).

This is further clarified in Thayer’s Greek lexicon: to empty, make empty: ἑαυτόν ἐκένωσε, namely, τοῦ εἶναι ἴσα Θεῷ or τῆς μορφῆς τοῦΘεοῦ, i. e. he laid aside equality with or the form of God (said of Christ), Philippians 2:7

What this passage is teaching us that even though God the Son had every right to be equal with God (and in fact the Father addresses the Son as “God” in Hebrews 1), He laid aside all of Divine privileges and majesty, humbled Himself, took the form of the Suffering Servant, became obedient unto death, and then conquered death.


DELUSION #6
To say that Jesus could empty himself, is saying God is not omnipotent because a spirit can cease to be. Which we know is untrue because God is spirit and He is eternal.
This has nothing to do with the omnipotence of God. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit remained omnipotent even while Christ was on earth. As Jesus told Pilate, He could have easily summoned MORE THAN twelve legions of angels to rescue Him from the Cross, if that had been His plan.
 
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Johnny_B

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It's true that because of the finished work of the cross, Jesus became our high priest. This means, we no longer have need to approach God through any man, or burnt sacrifice. We come to the Father through our faith in His Son. Jesus has become the way, the truth and the life, our clear and direct access to God (John 14:6). When James encourages us to confess our sins to one another, He isn't speaking about us needing someone to confess our sins to, in order to receive forgives. Jesus has already done that Himself. Rather, James is reiterating what Paul spoke about in 1 Timothy 1:19, where having a clear conscience is what keeps our faith from being shipwrecked.

You see, in order for our prayers to be effective, they must be filled with faith. Faith is the spiritual force that causes the things of the spirit to become our reality, and it's the language God responds to. He said we must believe in order to receive. But while our hearts and minds are plagued by a guilty conscience, because of something we have not dealt with internally, and left at the cross, our faith is not operative and our prayers will not be answered. If you feel for any reason, there is something blocking your prayer life from being effective, go before the Lord today, bear your heart to Him and let go of the guilt that is weighing your conscience down.

You may feel the need to pray with a fellow believer, and be in agreement together over letting go of the weight that shrouds your soul. Then, with a heart that is free from guilt, and full of faith, pray exactly what the Spirit of God puts on your heart, it will be in line with His Word and will carry the power to move those mountains and bring the miraculous into your life, once again.
James 5:13-18 Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing praise.14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.15 And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.17 Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed fervently that it might not rain, and for three years and six months it did not rain on the earth.18 Then he prayed again, and heaven gave rain, and the earth bore its fruit.”