Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 42
Like Tree57Likes

Bible Discussion Forum

Ask (or answer) Bible questions here. Join or start a Bible discussion now!

Thread: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

  1. #21
    Senior Member Budman's Avatar
    Join Date
    March 9th, 2014
    Age
    52
    Posts
    2,402
    Rep Power
    84

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by eternally-gratefull View Post
    Lol. I tried to post an old western version..lol That works thought

    Well, your link worked when I clicked on it!

  2. #22
    Senior Member eternally-gratefull's Avatar
    Join Date
    March 14th, 2011
    Age
    52
    Posts
    49,542
    Rep Power
    366

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Budman View Post
    Well, your link worked when I clicked on it!
    yes, so I did half a work. Is that enough to keep me saved for the rest of the night?
    MatthewG and Lafftur like this.
    Eternally Grateful for the grace God has shown a wretched soul such as myself.

    Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,

  3. #23
    Senior Member MatthewG's Avatar
    Join Date
    November 19th, 2016
    Age
    26
    Posts
    253
    Rep Power
    9

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by eternally-gratefull View Post
    I think this is about all we can do. Amen.
    I'm so glad brother, also nice rawhide music video friend. God bless all, enjoy your night/day and dinner, where ever you may be.
    Thank you all for the responses
    1 Peter 5 : 7 Cast all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you.

    Phil 4: 6 for nothing be anxious, but in everything by prayer, and by supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known unto God; 7 and the peace of God, that is surpassing all understanding, shall guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

  4. #24
    Senior Member mailmandan's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 7th, 2014
    Age
    52
    Posts
    13,575
    Rep Power
    365

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by notuptome View Post
    What could you possibly add?

    For the cause of Christ
    Roger
    There is absolutely that we can "add" as a supplement to Christ's finished work of redemption in order to help Him save us. Christ's finished work of redemption is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed.
    I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood.

    Galatians 6:14 - But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

  5. #25
    Senior Member mailmandan's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 7th, 2014
    Age
    52
    Posts
    13,575
    Rep Power
    365

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Believing/faith is only as good as the OBJECT that we place it in. Jesus Christ and His finished work of redemption is the OBJECT of our belief/faith in receiving salvation, so to say that believing/faith in Christ Jesus (Romans 3:22-28; 4:5; Ephesians 2:8) is not enough to save is to say that the OBJECT of our belief/faith is insufficient to save.
    I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood.

    Galatians 6:14 - But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

  6. #26
    Senior Member Depleted's Avatar
    Join Date
    December 13th, 2015
    Age
    61
    Posts
    20,103
    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    423

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewG View Post
    To please God.
    Say you have a daughter. Is it enough that she walks? Is that when you become pleased with her? If she never walks, does that mean you aren't pleased with her? What must she do to keep you pleased with her? Isn't it enough that she is your daughter?

    If it's like that for people, what is it like for the Lord? His people are also his adopted children. THAT pleased him. THAT pleased him enough that he went through all he went through to adopted us -- and it was a lot of sorrow and pain and unrighteous judgement on Man's part he had to go through to do that, but it pleased him.

    God is pleased. God will always be pleased with his children. Even when we tumble in our walk, he is still pleased. We cannot un-please God, as his children.

    That said, doesn't that just want you to do something good for him? Doesn't "The Creator and King of the Universe loves me" thrill you to your bones, so you want to spend eternity with him? And in so doing, don't you want to do for him, so his will is done?

    If there is a no to any of those last three questions, that means you aren't his adopted son... yet.

    Bare minimalism isn't a sign that God is pleased. It is a sign of lack of adoption... yet.

    Seriously not getting why people have been arguing bare-minimalism on this site for months now. Seriously feel this is already turning into another such post.

    The Lord God of the Universe took me off death row and gave me my "Princess" crown. Hotdogs! Gonna love this Lord forever and ever! And the only way I can show my love is to do.
    Lynn

    Still woman, but no lady.

    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Rom. 8:28

  7. #27
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    November 1st, 2017
    Age
    62
    Posts
    526
    Rep Power
    4

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewG View Post
    Some say it isn't.
    Some say it is.
    Do you have to do anything more?
    It's the definition of what believing in Christ means, whether it is enough, or it is not enough.
    To believe in Christ is to believe in what Christ believes, which is love, truth, justice, and more.
    To believe in these is enough, as these will be in your heart, and therefore you will complete the law.

  8. #28
    Senior Member MatthewG's Avatar
    Join Date
    November 19th, 2016
    Age
    26
    Posts
    253
    Rep Power
    9

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by louis View Post
    To believe in Christ is to believe in what Christ believes, which is love, and truth

    Amen Louis.
    1 Peter 5 : 7 Cast all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you.

    Phil 4: 6 for nothing be anxious, but in everything by prayer, and by supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known unto God; 7 and the peace of God, that is surpassing all understanding, shall guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

  9. #29
    Senior Member MatthewG's Avatar
    Join Date
    November 19th, 2016
    Age
    26
    Posts
    253
    Rep Power
    9

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Doublepost ~
    1 Peter 5 : 7 Cast all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you.

    Phil 4: 6 for nothing be anxious, but in everything by prayer, and by supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known unto God; 7 and the peace of God, that is surpassing all understanding, shall guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

  10. #30
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    December 9th, 2011
    Age
    59
    Posts
    9,667
    Blog Entries
    7
    Rep Power
    85

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewG View Post
    Some say it isn't.
    Some say it is.
    Do you have to do anything more?
    No but after salvation since GOD had mercy,we should Present our bodies a living sacifice which Is a reasonable thing to do and be renewing our minds to the word of GOD so that we may prove that good and acceptable and erfect will of GOD.
    IF you do not realize that the rebirth took place in your spirit then it can be confusing to your mind worshiping GOD standing in front of a physical mirror.

  11. #31
    Senior Member so-jesus-e-deus's Avatar
    Join Date
    February 7th, 2017
    Age
    46
    Posts
    150
    Rep Power
    2

    Lightbulb Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    No. It's necessary the grace:


    • "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:" (Eph 2.8).
    "Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth." (Hosea 6.3).

  12. #32
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    December 9th, 2011
    Age
    59
    Posts
    9,667
    Blog Entries
    7
    Rep Power
    85

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by so-jesus-e-deus View Post
    No. It's necessary the grace:


    • "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:" (Eph 2.8).
    Yes,If It wasn’t for the grace given by GOD, the vehicle so to speak called (faith) would not be given.
    NoNameMcgee likes this.
    IF you do not realize that the rebirth took place in your spirit then it can be confusing to your mind worshiping GOD standing in front of a physical mirror.

  13. #33
    Senior Member Nehemiah6's Avatar
    Join Date
    July 18th, 2017
    Age
    75
    Posts
    3,575
    Rep Power
    115

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by louis View Post
    To believe in Christ is to believe in what Christ believes, which is love, truth, justice, and more.
    To believe in these is enough, as these will be in your heart, and therefore you will complete the law.
    This is not really what it means to "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ". As Scripture says "This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners".

    Therefore we need to know about His finished work of redemption for sinners, and believe that what He -- who is God -- has accomplished in His death, burial, and resurrection is SUFFICIENT FOR ALL SINNERS, particularly "myself". That when I receive Him as BOTH Lord and Savior, I am saved by grace through faith. When I "call upon the name of THE LORD" then I am saved. Here is what believing on Christ means (although there are many other passages to supplement this, which also include the necessity of repentance -- the other side of the "coin" of faith):

    4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

    5
    For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

    6
    But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above,

    7
    Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)

    8
    But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

    9
    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    10
    For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    11
    For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    12
    For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

    13
    For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    14
    How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

    15
    And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

    16
    But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

    17
    So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

    18
    But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

    19
    But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.

    20
    But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

    21
    But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.


  14. #34
    finaldesire
    Guest

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewG View Post
    Some say it isn't.
    Some say it is.
    Do you have to do anything more?
    MatthewG, that's a very good question.

    Say I believed in Jesus, but didn't love my neighbor, would I then be saved? So I must do something (Love my neighbor) to find salvation. If I did nothing with my belief then what use is it, it is but hollow and shallow. There are three things that we need.

    1 Corinthians 13:13 (NIV)
    13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

    1. Faith
    2. Hope
    3. Love

    Which of these three things are the greatest?

  15. #35
    Senior Member Johnny_B's Avatar
    Join Date
    March 18th, 2017
    Age
    62
    Posts
    1,725
    Rep Power
    61

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoNameMcgee View Post
    John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


    whosoever, my friend
    Acts 2:39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”

    everyone He calls to Himself, my friend
    John 6:63, 65 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life....65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”

    I do not at all understand the mystery of grace--only that it meets us where we are but does not leave us where it found us. Anne Lamott

    Born in the Spirit & word, granted by the Father. EE-TEOW




  16. #36
    Senior Member MatthewG's Avatar
    Join Date
    November 19th, 2016
    Age
    26
    Posts
    253
    Rep Power
    9

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by finaldesire View Post
    MatthewG, that's a very good question.

    Say I believed in Jesus, but didn't love my neighbor, would I then be saved? So I must do something (Love my neighbor) to find salvation. If I did nothing with my belief then what use is it, it is but hollow and shallow. There are three things that we need.

    1 Corinthians 13:13 (NIV)
    13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

    1. Faith
    2. Hope
    3. Love

    Which of these three things are the greatest?
    Love of course!
    1 Peter 5 : 7 Cast all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you.

    Phil 4: 6 for nothing be anxious, but in everything by prayer, and by supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known unto God; 7 and the peace of God, that is surpassing all understanding, shall guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

  17. #37
    Senior Member JaumeJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    July 2nd, 2011
    Age
    73
    Posts
    11,722
    Blog Entries
    36
    Rep Power
    140

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    To the question of the OP Title...

    Of course believe Jesus, Yeshua, is enough

    Anyone who believes Jesus will not offer onlyly
    lip serice but will also acto upon the faith given him by grace.!
    From the Mouth of our Lord, Jesus Christ, or do you call Him Yeshua?
    Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.


  18. #38
    Senior Member mailmandan's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 7th, 2014
    Age
    52
    Posts
    13,575
    Rep Power
    365

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by finaldesire View Post
    MatthewG, that's a very good question.

    Say I believed in Jesus, but didn't love my neighbor, would I then be saved?
    To say, "I believe in Jesus and I'm a child of God, but I never love my neighbor" is an OXYMORON (1 John 3:10; 4:7).

    So I must do something (Love my neighbor) to find salvation.
    We love our neighbor in order to find salvation or BECAUSE we found salvation? 1 John 3:14 - We know that we have passed out of death into life, (demonstrative evidence) because we love the brethren. He who does not love abides in death.

    If I did nothing with my belief then what use is it, it is but hollow and shallow.
    Belief that does nothing at all is not authentic belief. Faith without works is dead (James 2:14-17).

    There are three things that we need.

    1 Corinthians 13:13 (NIV)
    13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

    1. Faith
    2. Hope
    3. Love

    Which of these three things are the greatest?
    If someone has genuine saving faith in Christ and has received the Holy Spirit, it would be impossible for them to have NO love at all. Paul uses hyperbole (obvious and intentional exaggeration) about understanding ALL mysteries and ALL knowledge and having faith that can move mountains yet having NO love. Paul is not exaggerating about the importance of love though. Faith works through love (Galatians 5:6), but we are saved through faith, not faith plus love.

    Love is the greater quality of the three because God is love and it outlasts them all. Long after faith and hope are no longer necessary, love will still be the governing principle that controls all that God and his redeemed people are and do. We won't need faith and hope in heaven.

    In 1 Corinthians 13:13, Paul is not teaching that even if our faith is genuine that our faith cannot save us without producing "enough" love. Paul is stressing the importance of love, not teaching that faith is insufficient to save us without our best efforts to produce enough love.

    All genuine believers love. Why? Because we have received the love of God in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us (Romans 5:5) when we believed the gospel (Ephesians 1:13). We love Him because He first loved us (1 John 4:19).
    MatthewG and finaldesire like this.
    I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood.

    Galatians 6:14 - But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

  19. #39
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    November 1st, 2017
    Age
    62
    Posts
    526
    Rep Power
    4

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    This is not really what it means to "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ". As Scripture says "This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners".

    Therefore we need to know about His finished work of redemption for sinners, and believe that what He -- who is God -- has accomplished in His death, burial, and resurrection is SUFFICIENT FOR ALL SINNERS, particularly "myself". That when I receive Him as BOTH Lord and Savior, I am saved by grace through faith. When I "call upon the name of THE LORD" then I am saved. Here is what believing on Christ means (although there are many other passages to supplement this, which also include the necessity of repentance -- the other side of the "coin" of faith):

    4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

    5
    For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

    6
    But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above,

    7
    Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)

    8
    But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

    9
    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    10
    For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    11
    For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    12
    For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

    13
    For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    14
    How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

    15
    And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

    16
    But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

    17
    So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

    18
    But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

    19
    But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.

    20
    But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

    21
    But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

    God is Love (1 John 4:8 & 16), and those who know love, know God, and more importantly God knows them. Among those who do not know love are many who think they knew the Way of the Lord, only for the Lord to tell them that He/Love never knew them (Matthew 7:22-23).

    1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

    Matthhew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

  20. #40
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    November 1st, 2017
    Age
    62
    Posts
    526
    Rep Power
    4

    Default Re: Is believing/faith in Christ Jesus enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewG View Post
    Amen Louis.
    Amen brother.
    It is amazing to me how so many continue to believe that to believe in Christ means merely to believe that He is the Son of God.
    Even the devils believe and know that (James 2:19). What they do not know and believe in is in Christs Way of Love.

    James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Faith of Jesus Christ
    By John146 in forum Bible Discussion Forum
    Replies: 117
    Last Post: September 24th, 2016, 10:15 PM
  2. Put your faith in Jesus Christ, not the Sabbath or the Law
    By sparkman in forum Bible Discussion Forum
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: July 5th, 2015, 12:30 AM
  3. Faith in Jesus Christ is faith in every word of God
    By InSpiritInTruth in forum Bible Discussion Forum
    Replies: 33
    Last Post: March 7th, 2015, 08:34 PM
  4. THOSE IN PRISON FOR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST
    By Joidevivre in forum Miscellaneous
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: September 16th, 2014, 02:29 AM
  5. Jesus Christ. The Unity of the Faith.
    By Ramon in forum Miscellaneous
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: September 13th, 2011, 07:32 PM