In the Bible why is Jesus more forgiving than God if they are one in the same?
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Jesus is not more forgiving than God,for the forgiveness He gave is from God,and Jesus is God manifest in the flesh so when He forgave it was from Him being God,and the Pharisees said who can forgive sins but God alone.
God has always been loving,and caring,towards people,even in the Old Testament,where He told the Jews to treat the stranger as one of their own,because they was a stranger in Egypt,and said He winked at the ways of the Gentiles but now commands all people everywhere to repent,and said feed and clothe your enemies,and said to love people,and help them with their needs.
The Bible says herein is the love of God,not that we loved Him,but that He loved us first.
And God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,the man Christ Jesus,that whosoever believes in Him,that He is God manifest in the flesh,has eternal life,which God laid down His life for us,His physical life,and purchased the Church with His own blood.
God showed a lot of mercy in the Old Testament towards the Jews and Gentiles,in which He caused Babylon to flourish so much that king Nebuchadnezzar said that the God of Israel is a God of gods,and a Lord of kings,and that He is the greatest God of the gods,and that he praised him,and honored him,and proclaimed throughout his kingdom to acknowledge the God of Israel and if anyone said anything amiss against Him they would be cut in pieces,and their house made a dunghill,and said that God rules in the heaven,and on earth,and believed that until he died.
God was merciful,and forgiving,in the Old Testament,and He claims that,but He would judge right on earth those that would try to pervert Israel from the truth,or go against her in war,as long as Israel did abide in the truth,and even when she went astray God would give her an allotted amount of time to get back in the truth,and then if they did not they were punished,but this was to keep Israel in the truth for Jesus was to come through Israel which He gives salvation,and would always restore Israel as He will in the future after they have borne their shame for their sins and iniquities against Him.
God had to protect Israel from being led astray,and from being wiped out by her enemies,because of salvation,which Jesus said salvation is of the Jews,and Jesus came from Israel.
God left the Gentile nations alone unless they went against Israel,or if they perverted people too much from the truth,and God's ways,and were cruel towards other people.
God puts down a thousand to save ten thousand,and God would cause Gentile nations,and kingdoms to fall,if they were perverting too much people by their kingdom,or being cruel towards people,and would give the kingdom to another.
If God did not intercede in the Old Testament and judge right on earth,it would of been a lot worse in people being perverted from the truth,and Israel would of been wiped out,or scattered and very few with no hope of ever becoming a nation again,and more people would of been hurt physically.
God is not cruel,people are cruel,and if a boy was walking with his dad in the park and a man ran up on him to stab him,and the father put him down,would the son say,dad you are cruel,or would he say thank you dad for saving my life.
God judging on earth in the Old Testament caused more people to acknowledge Him,and the truth,and less people being physically hurt,and Babylon the greatest Gentile kingdom would of never proclaimed throughout their kingdom to acknowledge the God of Israel,but king Nebuchadnezzar's son took the throne and blew it,and they lost the revelation of God,and He gave the kingdom to the Medes and Persians.
Jesus is God,which the Bible says that Jesus dwells in the light that no person can approach unto,and no person has ever seen Jesus,and no person will ever see Jesus,but He showed us a visible manifestation of Himself.
Jesus is God,and God is as forgiving in the Old Testament,as in the New Testament,and we know that God will judge all people,whether on earth,and the afterlife in the Old,or in the afterlife in the New,which Jesus is the judge and said that the wicked will not be able to dwell with Him.
People have a misconception of God that He is a war monger in the Old Testament,but it is not true,for He was a saver of lives physically,and being in the truth.
If God did not intercede in the Old Testament and judge on earth would there be salvation for Israel would of probably been wiped out,so God had to protect her from her enemies,and protect the Gentiles,and Jews,from cruel Gentile nations,and kingdoms,that perverted His truth spreading out too far and being cruel.
God has always been loving,and caring,towards people,even in the Old Testament,where He told the Jews to treat the stranger as one of their own,because they was a stranger in Egypt,and said He winked at the ways of the Gentiles but now commands all people everywhere to repent,and said feed and clothe your enemies,and said to love people,and help them with their needs.
The Bible says herein is the love of God,not that we loved Him,but that He loved us first.
And God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,the man Christ Jesus,that whosoever believes in Him,that He is God manifest in the flesh,has eternal life,which God laid down His life for us,His physical life,and purchased the Church with His own blood.
God showed a lot of mercy in the Old Testament towards the Jews and Gentiles,in which He caused Babylon to flourish so much that king Nebuchadnezzar said that the God of Israel is a God of gods,and a Lord of kings,and that He is the greatest God of the gods,and that he praised him,and honored him,and proclaimed throughout his kingdom to acknowledge the God of Israel and if anyone said anything amiss against Him they would be cut in pieces,and their house made a dunghill,and said that God rules in the heaven,and on earth,and believed that until he died.
God was merciful,and forgiving,in the Old Testament,and He claims that,but He would judge right on earth those that would try to pervert Israel from the truth,or go against her in war,as long as Israel did abide in the truth,and even when she went astray God would give her an allotted amount of time to get back in the truth,and then if they did not they were punished,but this was to keep Israel in the truth for Jesus was to come through Israel which He gives salvation,and would always restore Israel as He will in the future after they have borne their shame for their sins and iniquities against Him.
God had to protect Israel from being led astray,and from being wiped out by her enemies,because of salvation,which Jesus said salvation is of the Jews,and Jesus came from Israel.
God left the Gentile nations alone unless they went against Israel,or if they perverted people too much from the truth,and God's ways,and were cruel towards other people.
God puts down a thousand to save ten thousand,and God would cause Gentile nations,and kingdoms to fall,if they were perverting too much people by their kingdom,or being cruel towards people,and would give the kingdom to another.
If God did not intercede in the Old Testament and judge right on earth,it would of been a lot worse in people being perverted from the truth,and Israel would of been wiped out,or scattered and very few with no hope of ever becoming a nation again,and more people would of been hurt physically.
God is not cruel,people are cruel,and if a boy was walking with his dad in the park and a man ran up on him to stab him,and the father put him down,would the son say,dad you are cruel,or would he say thank you dad for saving my life.
God judging on earth in the Old Testament caused more people to acknowledge Him,and the truth,and less people being physically hurt,and Babylon the greatest Gentile kingdom would of never proclaimed throughout their kingdom to acknowledge the God of Israel,but king Nebuchadnezzar's son took the throne and blew it,and they lost the revelation of God,and He gave the kingdom to the Medes and Persians.
Jesus is God,which the Bible says that Jesus dwells in the light that no person can approach unto,and no person has ever seen Jesus,and no person will ever see Jesus,but He showed us a visible manifestation of Himself.
Jesus is God,and God is as forgiving in the Old Testament,as in the New Testament,and we know that God will judge all people,whether on earth,and the afterlife in the Old,or in the afterlife in the New,which Jesus is the judge and said that the wicked will not be able to dwell with Him.
People have a misconception of God that He is a war monger in the Old Testament,but it is not true,for He was a saver of lives physically,and being in the truth.
If God did not intercede in the Old Testament and judge on earth would there be salvation for Israel would of probably been wiped out,so God had to protect her from her enemies,and protect the Gentiles,and Jews,from cruel Gentile nations,and kingdoms,that perverted His truth spreading out too far and being cruel.
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Depends on how one teaches will determine if any bible is needed.
There are only three things a newbie needs to know initially, from scripture, for eternal salvation....the most important three things...which I am sure you are aware of. They are sufficiently illustrated in the KJV.
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This is why it is useless talking to some people. And it is better to just let some things be.
1. He did not speak of what Jesus said (before abraham was, i existed)
2. He adds words which no one ever said (physical)
some people who do whatever that have to to keep believing the way they want, instead of actually looking at what is being said,
1. He did not speak of what Jesus said (before abraham was, i existed)
2. He adds words which no one ever said (physical)
some people who do whatever that have to to keep believing the way they want, instead of actually looking at what is being said,
I see you are banned. However, this needs to be addressed anyways 
When you forgive, your forgiveness does not extend eternal life to the other. I would hope that any sane person would be able to make a distinction along those lines concerning the difference between us forgiving someone, and being forgiven by God through faith in the completed work of Christ on the cross, where He gave His life as an atoning sacrifice due to His great everlasting love for us, that we may be reconciled to God through faith in Him.
When you forgive, your forgiveness does not extend eternal life to the other. I would hope that any sane person would be able to make a distinction along those lines concerning the difference between us forgiving someone, and being forgiven by God through faith in the completed work of Christ on the cross, where He gave His life as an atoning sacrifice due to His great everlasting love for us, that we may be reconciled to God through faith in Him.
They aren't one and the same. A lot of events in the OT was God showing Jesus how to do the things he does on the day of the return as He pours out the 7 vials.
Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise.
Think like a Lawyer for the next verse and determine how many different people are involved.
1Co:15:27:
For he hath put all things under his feet.
But when he saith all things are put under him,
it is manifest that he is excepted,
which did put all things under him.
Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise.
Think like a Lawyer for the next verse and determine how many different people are involved.
1Co:15:27:
For he hath put all things under his feet.
But when he saith all things are put under him,
it is manifest that he is excepted,
which did put all things under him.
John 1:1-5: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it"
V14: "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth"
V14: "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth"
He is a servant of God. Perhaps His witness of creation will help show who He is and that He is on a mission for God The missions is to be the 'seed of Eve' from Ge:3:15 and the warning about what happens to those who ignore His instructions.
Proverb:8:22-36:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
Now therefore hearken unto me,
O ye children:
for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Hear instruction,
and be wise,
and refuse it not.
Blessed is the man that heareth me,
watching daily at my gates,
waiting at the posts of my doors.
For whoso findeth me findeth life,
and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul:
all they that hate me love death.
M'r:9:7:
And there was a cloud that overshadowed them:
and a voice came out of the cloud,
saying,
This is my beloved Son:
hear him.
M't:26:39:
And he went a little further,
and fell on his face,
and prayed,
saying,
O my Father,
if it be possible,
let this cup pass from me:
nevertheless not as I will,
but as thou wilt.
God and the Holy Spirit are the only one in Ge:1 so what do these verse promote when image and likeness atr two different traits? One trait was about looks and the other is the relationship they had, they were created as a married couple. This is a primer as there are more references that point to them being different individuals.
Ge:1:26:
And God said,
Let us make man in our image,
after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air,
and over the cattle,
and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Ge:1:27:
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.
Proverb:8:22-36:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
Now therefore hearken unto me,
O ye children:
for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Hear instruction,
and be wise,
and refuse it not.
Blessed is the man that heareth me,
watching daily at my gates,
waiting at the posts of my doors.
For whoso findeth me findeth life,
and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul:
all they that hate me love death.
M'r:9:7:
And there was a cloud that overshadowed them:
and a voice came out of the cloud,
saying,
This is my beloved Son:
hear him.
M't:26:39:
And he went a little further,
and fell on his face,
and prayed,
saying,
O my Father,
if it be possible,
let this cup pass from me:
nevertheless not as I will,
but as thou wilt.
God and the Holy Spirit are the only one in Ge:1 so what do these verse promote when image and likeness atr two different traits? One trait was about looks and the other is the relationship they had, they were created as a married couple. This is a primer as there are more references that point to them being different individuals.
Ge:1:26:
And God said,
Let us make man in our image,
after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air,
and over the cattle,
and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Ge:1:27:
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.
John:1:1 was written by John the Baptist and he was called by God in the same manor as Moses and everybody else in the OT. That means he would be referencing God in Genesis:1 as the 'word' as that is when the beginning was.
Ge:1:1:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
There are verses where God speaks. Christ become the 'seed of Eve' that takes the bruise to the heel as well as being the one that pours out the vial that is the bruise to Satan's head. Jesus is not mentioned until this verse.
Joh:1:4:
In him was life;
and the life was the light of men.
Joh:1:5:
And the light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not.
Joh:1:7:
The same came for a witness,
to bear witness of the Light,
that all men through him might believe.
Joh:1:8:
He was not that Light,
but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Joh:1:9:
That was the true Light,
which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Ge:1:1:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
There are verses where God speaks. Christ become the 'seed of Eve' that takes the bruise to the heel as well as being the one that pours out the vial that is the bruise to Satan's head. Jesus is not mentioned until this verse.
Joh:1:4:
In him was life;
and the life was the light of men.
Joh:1:5:
And the light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not.
Joh:1:7:
The same came for a witness,
to bear witness of the Light,
that all men through him might believe.
Joh:1:8:
He was not that Light,
but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Joh:1:9:
That was the true Light,
which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.