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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveGodForever View Post
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    Please it short
    1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
    Pro 18: 17 He who states his case first seems right, until his rival comes and cross-examines him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mailmandan View Post
    I never said that works do not follow genuine faith, yet we are saved by grace through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9). Like I already said, James is discussing the proof/evidence of faith (says-claims to have faith but has no works/I will show you my faith by my works - James 2:14-18), not the initial act of being accounted as righteous with God (Romans 4:2-3).

    It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified on account of Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet the faith that justifies is never alone (solitary, unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine (James 2:14-24). *Perfect Harmony.* Do you agree or disagree? Do you believe that man is saved by works?
    How can you know what Faith is if you do NOT KNOW what the Gospel is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laymen View Post
    Please it short
    Don’t look for short responses from LGF, but only long winded posts full of scripture twisting, psycho babble, rhetoric and SDA propaganda. That’s why I have him on IGNORE.
    I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mailmandan View Post
    Don’t look for short responses from LGF, but only long winded posts full of scripture twisting, psycho babble, rhetoric and SDA propaganda. That’s why I have him on IGNORE.
    Hmm I guess this is the only reply you can come up with against all the scriptures that disagree with you? Only God's Word is true my friend if you disagree with what I have posted please reply to the posts and scriptures that disagree with your interpretation of the scriptures. If you cannot it is ok, maybe you can go home and pray about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mailmandan View Post
    I never said that works do not follow genuine faith, yet we are saved by grace through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9). Like I already said, James is discussing the proof/evidence of faith (says-claims to have faith but has no works/I will show you my faith by my works - James 2:14-18), not the initial act of being accounted as righteous with God (Romans 4:2-3).

    It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified on account of Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet the faith that justifies is never alone (solitary, unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine (James 2:14-24). *Perfect Harmony.* Do you agree or disagree? Do you believe that man is saved by works?
    I take it you didn't even read those scriptures.

    Not surprised.

    You ought to try it sometimes, it's a real eye-opener.

    BTW, don't even try that "saved by works" crap on me either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Speak2Me View Post
    I take it you didn't even read those scriptures.

    Not surprised.

    You ought to try it sometimes, it's a real eye-opener.

    BTW, don't even try that "saved by works" crap on me either.
    Why so angry? There is nothing eye opening about false teachers twisting the scriptures and perverting the Gospel. Save it. I’m not easily fooled.
    I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mailmandan View Post
    Why so angry? There is nothing eye opening about false teachers twisting the scriptures and perverting the Gospel. Save it. I’m not easily fooled.
    No, not angry.

    I just get so tired of that "you're saved by works" strawman used on everybody that don't agree with you.

    That's enuff to stop up a sewer treatment plant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speak2Me View Post
    No, not angry.

    I just get so tired of that "you're saved by works" strawman used on everybody that don't agree with you.

    That's enuff to stop up a sewer treatment plant.
    It’s no straw man. Many people who are mixed up in various false religions and cults teach salvation by works and twist James 2:14-24 to fit their agenda. I don’t believe that James teaches salvation by works, as I clearly explained and if you agree then just simply say so.
    I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood.

    Galatians 6:14 - But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mailmandan View Post
    It’s no straw man. Many people who are mixed up in various false religions and cults teach salvation by works and twist James 2:14-24 to fit their agenda. I don’t believe that James teaches salvation by works, as I clearly explained and if you agree then just simply say so.
    But if you do not know what the Gospel is how can you know what James is talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveGodForever View Post
    But if you do not know what the Gospel is how can you know what James is talking about?
    if you only read the verses that fits your ellen white taught theology, how can you understand the law and Sabbath does not save.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gb9 View Post
    if you only read the verses that fits your ellen white taught theology, how can you understand the law and Sabbath does not save.
    Strawman much? Who has ever said God's LAW saves? Not me. Sin however will keep all who practice it out of God's KINGDOM

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    God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

    There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

    Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

    Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

    May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seed_time_harvest View Post
    By The Way,everyone that has reached the age of accountability and has not gotten saved yet, Is under law and will come short of the glory of GOD.
    22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.
    There is no distinction,
    for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

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    Quote Originally Posted by gb9 View Post
    if you only read the verses that fits your ellen white taught theology, how can you understand the law and Sabbath does not save.
    Amen brother and it’s a real shame to see so much zeal wasted on UNBELIEF (2 Corinthians 4:3,4).
    I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood.

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    double speak . making Sabbath keeping a requirement for salvation, which the Bible does not do.

    all you folks who do not usually interact with this person, look at his posts, then do a little research on ellen white and the sda cult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mailmandan View Post
    It’s no straw man. Many people who are mixed up in various false religions and cults teach salvation by works and twist James 2:14-24 to fit their agenda. I don’t believe that James teaches salvation by works, as I clearly explained and if you agree then just simply say so.
    James 5:19-20 (ESV)
    19 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, 20 let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

    James 5:19-20 (NASB)
    19 My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

    James 5:19-20 (NIV)
    19 My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

    Salvation can be lost when true repentance ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gb9 View Post
    double speak . making Sabbath keeping a requirement for salvation, which the Bible does not do.
    all you folks who do not usually interact with this person, look at his posts, then do a little research on ellen white and the sda cult.
    There is no double speak my friend we are only saved by GRACE through FAITH and not of OURSELVES it is a GIFT of GOD and NOT of WORKS lest any man should boast.

    However, IF your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE then you are still in your SINS because you have rejected the GIFT of God's dear Son (James 2:18: 20: 26).

    If your tree has no FRUIT it will be cast down and thrown into the FIRE come judgement day (Matthew 7:12-23). Now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth NOT forth good fruit is CUT down, and cast into the fire (Matthew 3:10).

    If you are still in your SINS when he gives you a KNOWLEDGE of the truth then you do not KNOW him who calls you in LOVE to LOVE another as he first LOVED you. It is hard to see Gods' Word when you close your eyes to it in order to follow your traditions that break the Commandments of God.

    SIN will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gb9 View Post
    double speak . making Sabbath keeping a requirement for salvation, which the Bible does not do.

    all you folks who do not usually interact with this person, look at his posts, then do a little research on ellen white and the sda cult.
    gb9, don't say LGF belongs to that SDA. He refute Ellen White's teaching as I do.

    MMD: this is from your post #19:
    4. Keep the Sabbath day holy. - Not binding on the Church - Colossians 2:16-17

    The re: Col. 2:16,17: "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."

    That takes nothing away; instead it edifies it. It is dangerous to draw doctrine on one example. Let everything be established at the mouth of two or three witnesses. God's advise in the OT.

    Romans 8:28: “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,
    to them who are the called according to his purpose.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speak2Me View Post
    James 5:19-20 (ESV)
    19 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, 20 let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

    James 5:19-20 (NASB)
    19 My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

    James 5:19-20 (NIV)
    19 My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

    Salvation can be lost when true repentance ends.
    The topic we were discussing is in regards to works and James 2:14-24 and not losing salvation. Do you believe that “justified by works” in James 2:24 means “accounted as righteous” or “shown to be righteous?”
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    l g f does nothing but post sda propaganda. he has never denounced ellen white. so, sorry, I call em as I see em.

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