ANIMAL SACRIFICES to resume FOR US in the future!

[BibleGuy]

Rosemary, for fear you will buy into what he is saying only (since he's not listening to anyone but himself)....


Here's Col. 2:17 in context.

13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

So please don't think there is a "SHADOW FUNCTION of the Law." The shadow is that we aren't able to totally see what the Lord is doing, and yet we see it is him doing it.

Add to that, please note the verses about how to handle people who go into great detail of what they have seen and yet are falsely humble.

The very verse he hid to validate himself, when taken in context, cancels the validation. Like I said, I don't expect him to see this. Just didn't want you to fall for it.

Hello,

You wrote: "So please don't think there is a "SHADOW FUNCTION of the Law." "

My response: Paul disagrees with you. Paul said they ARE (present tense!) a shadow (Col. 2:17).

Not sure why you would want to oppose Paul.

You wrote: "Add to that, please note the verses about how to handle people who go into great detail of what they have seen and yet are falsely humble."

My response: So now it's wrong to share the prophecies of Scripture with others?

Of course it's not wrong!

And the prophets guarantee RESTORATION of animal sacrifices (Zec. 14; Eze. 40-47; Mal. 3; Eze. 40-47; Jer. 33; Dt. 30).

And you accuse me of being "falsely humble" ?

Of course, that's another unjustified accusation. Stick to the facts, please.

No more fake news.

You wrote: "The very verse he hid to validate himself, when taken in context, cancels the validation."

My response: Say what?

Which prophet do you oppose? Zechariah (Zec. 14)?

Or Ezekiel? (Eze. 40-47)

Or Malachi (Mal. 3) ?

Or Jeremiah (Jer. 33) ?

Or Moses (Dt. 30) ?

I choose to believe the prophets...

And they prophesy of a future restoration of animal sacrifices.

And Paul CONDONED participation in animal sacrifices as well (Ac. 21).
And so did four others (Ac. 21).
And so did THOUSANDS of 1st century disciples (Ac. 21).
And so did disciples who were animal-sacrificing priests (Ac. 6).

So it's far from clear why you oppose all this Scripture.

Jesus AFFIRMS the validity of sacrifices (by quoting Is. 56). Jesus' teachings apply to all of us Christians (Mt. 28:20).

Please stop opposing what Jesus affirms.

regards...

 

[BibleGuy]

Rosemary, the only thing the Bible says about animal sacrifices in the NT is that they are obsolete and done away with. Read all of the book of Hebrews, especially chapter 10.

“For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.” Hebrews 10:4

“When he said above, “You have neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings” (these are offered according to the law), 9 then he added, “Behold, I have come to do your will.” He does away with the first in order to establish the second. 10 And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.” Hebrews 10:8-10.

We only need Jesus Christ in our lives. This OP is so far from the truth of the Bible, it is ridiculous. But read all of Hebrews, in a modern version so you can understand it. You will see the truth of who Jesus is, and how he is all we need, and there will be no more animal sacrifices!

God bless!

Hello,

Heb. 10 does NOT state that animal sacrifices will NOT (or should not) occur in the future, in accordance with the prophets.

And sure, Jesus is the once-for-all permanent atoning sacrifice for sin.

Shall we therefore IGNORE the prophets?

Of course not!

The prophets GUARANTEE restoration of sacrifices. And JESUS will personally RESTORE that very activity (Mal. 3).

Ezekiel guarantees future sacrifices (Eze. 40-47).

Moses guarantees it (Dt. 30).

Zechariah guarantees it (Zec. 14).

Jeremiah guarantees it (Jer. 33).

So the "we only need Jesus....so ignore anything in the Bible I don't understand" attitude is naïve and unacceptable.

ALL Scripture should train and correct our behavior (2 Ti. 3:16), and that includes animal-sacrifice laws, when properly performed.

Paul condoned sacrifices (Ac. 21).

Thousands of 1st century believers condoned sacrifices (and all Torah, Ac. 21).

The writer of Hebrews says that the Old Covenant had NOT yet disappeared (Heb. 8:13).

So, clearly, Scripture supports the claim that animal sacrifices are acceptable in this New Covenant era.

regards...

 

[BibleGuy]

It is ridiculous in identifying the Church with Israel. Other than that it is providing the prophecies which have yet to be fulfilled.

Whether we understand the significance of this or not, there is no question that there will be animal sacrifices in a future redeemed and restored Israel. As to how God will reconcile that with the one great sacrifice of Christ is something best left to Him.

And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel. (Ezek 45:17).

Hello,

You wrote: "It is ridiculous in identifying the Church with Israel."

My response: "church" = "ekklesia" = the assembly at Sinai (Ac. 7:38) = ISRAEL.

So, the BIBLE affirms that "church" may refer to ISRAEL.

It's not ridiculous.

It's BIBLE.

regards...

 

[BibleGuy]

Here is the new temple:
John 2:18 So the Jews said to him, “What sign do you show us for doing these things?”19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”20 The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?”21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body.22 When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken.

Built 2000 years ago and still standing! Always standing. Eternally standing!

And HERE (Zec. 6) is the physical temple to be rebuilt by Jesus.

Remember, Jesus will RESTORE sacrifices (Mal. 3) and rebuild a temple (Zec. 6).

regards...

 

[BibleGuy]

Thank you Angela , this s Scripture as you have shown it...And if I am correct ( please correct me if I am wrong ) Hebrews 6:4 is a warning to those who had heard of the good news but kept going back to sacrifice animals when Jesus was the sacrifice...
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away,[b] to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame...xox...

Hello,

Let's not ignore pertinent Biblical considerations.

If animal sacrifices during the New Covenant era result in the punishment of Heb. 6:4-6, then:

1. Paul can NOT be renewed to repentance for his condoning of animal sacrifices (Ac. 21)

2. Four others (along with Paul) can not be renewed to repentance either (Ac. 21)

3. Paul condoned a vow to prove he walked orderly according to animal-sacrificing Torah (Ac. 21), and thus, Paul can not be renewed to repentance.

4. Thousands of 1st-century believers were UNABLE to be renewed to repentance because of their zeal for Torah (Ac. 21).

5. Disciples who were animal-sacrificing priests (Ac. 6) were unable to be renewed to repentance.

6. Jesus was wrong for condoning sacrifices (by quoting Is. 56) and subsequently claiming those sacrifice laws applied to all disciples (Mt. 28:20).

7. The prophets are wrong for prophesying of future animal sacrifices in which we Israelites shall play a part (Jer. 33; Mal. 3; Eze. 40-47; Dt. 30).

8. God is wrong for punishing those throughout the planet who refuse to partake in the sacrifice-laden feast of Sukkot (Zec. 14).



WOW!

Are you SURE you really want to oppose Paul, oppose thousands of 1st-century disciples (who SURELY had a lot better understanding of theology and practice than you), oppose the priests who were disciples, oppose Jesus, oppose the prophets, and oppose God?

I sure hope you don't oppose them all.

Let's believe the truths in the Bible.

blessings...

 

[p_rehbein]

works for me.............

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Hello friends,

It appears we have a dozen Scripturally-grounded reasons which jointly confirm that animal sacrifices will (in the future) be resumed in conjunction with the full restoration of Priestly/Levitical duties. And, we will participate in these activities as fellow Israelite participants in the covenants between God and Israel. Most of us Christians are unaware of our future destiny in Israel; I hope this thread begins (in at least some small way) the process of correcting this unfortunate circumstance.

1. A. Dt. 30:1-8 is not yet fulfilled.
B. Dt. 30:1-8 guarantees the restoration of priestly/Levitical/sacrificial Torah-obedience.
C. Priestly/Levitical/sacrificial Torah-obedience will occur in the future.

2. A. Eze. 40-47 is not yet fulfilled.
B. Eze. 40-47 guarantees the restoration of priestly/Levitical/sacrificial activity.
C. Priestly/Levitical/sacrificial activity will occur in the future.

3. A. Jer. 33:20-22 is not yet fulfilled.
B. Jer. 33:20-22 guarantees the restoration of priestly/Levitical/sacrificial Torah-obedience.
C. Priestly/Levitical/sacrificial Torah-obedience will occur in the future.

4. A. Zec. 14 guarantees future GLOBAL participation in the sacrifice-laden feast of Sukkot (with punishment upon the nations who do not participate).
B. Therefore, global participation in sacrifice-laden feasts will occur in the future, and it will be required, and it will be good to obey, and it will be bad to disobey.

5. A. Mal. 3:1-4 guarantees that the Messiah will RESTORE the covenant with Levi, complete with sacrifices to be offered again in the future.
B. We should not oppose what the Messiah will come to restore in the forthcoming kingdom rule.

6. A. Is. 66 guarantees future restoration of Levitical/priestly/sacrificial activities associated with new moon and Sabbath observance.
B. We should not oppose what Isaiah guarantees will occur in the future.

7.A. The Old Covenant is READY (Gr. "engoos", Heb. 8:13) to disappear.
B. That which is ready to disappear has NOT yet disappeared (from the meaning of "engoos").
C. The Old Covenant was still in force (as of the New-Covenant-era time of the writing of Hebrews) (from B).
D. The inauguration of the New Covenant does NOT entail termination of the Old Covenant (from C).
E. Old Covenant Levitical/priestly/sacrificial activities are good and proper to persist into the New Covenant era (from D).

8. A. Many New-Covenant-era priests were disciples of the Messiah (Ac. 6:7).
B. Priests perform sacrificial/priestly/Levitical duties.
C. Priestly sacrificial/Levitical duties are acceptable in the New-Covenant-era (from A and B).

9. A. Thousands of first-century disciples were zealous for Torah (Ac. 21:20).
B. Torah-obedience requires sacrificial/priestly/Levitical duties (when performed properly).
C. Thousands of first-century disciples were zealous for Torah-obedient sacrificial/priestly/Levitical activity.
D. These disciples encouraged Paul (and Paul agreed!) to condone a vow (evidently the sacrifice-laden Nazirite vow) for the purpose of publicly affirming that Paul likewise walked orderly according to the Torah.
E. Sacrifices are, thus, affirmed as a valid ongoing New-Covenant-era practice.


10. A. Sabbath Torah is (present tense!) a shadow of the substance in Christ (Col. 2:16-17).
B. Col. 2 was written after the inauguration of the New-Covenant era.
C. Col. 2 is, thus, evidence that Sabbath Torah (which, of course, includes associated sacrificial activity when properly performed) is an ONGOING FUNCTIONING SHADOW which CONTINUES to point to the substance in Christ.

11. A. Christians are included as fellow Israelites who partake in the Torah-laden covenants between YHVH and Israel (Eph. 2).
B. The covenants (Abrahamic, Mosaic, Davidic, and New) are all still in force, and we Christians partake in these covenants (plural! Eph. 2:12).
C. The covenants entail Levitical/priestly/sacrificial activity when properly performed.
D. Thus, we Christians should condone the proper restoration and participation in the Levitical/priestly/sacrificial activities associated with the Torah-laden covenants in which we participate.

12. A. Israelites will again participate in Levitical/priestly/sacrificial activity when they return from ALL the countries to which they have been scattered (Eze. 20:30-44).
B. This return has not yet occurred.
C. Animal sacrifices will occur in the future (from A and B).
D. We Christians are included as fellow Israelite participants in the covenants between YHVH and Israel (e.g., Jer. 31).
E. Thus, we are Israelites who will participate in the restoration of animal sacrifices in the future.


CONCLUSION: We appear to have a dozen (I could list many more!) Scripturally-grounded lines of reasoning which jointly confirm that Levitical/priestly/sacrificial activity is good and proper and forthcoming.

Yes, sin offerings point to the Lamb of God (Jesus) who is the ultimate sin-offering on our behalf. But this is no excuse to terminate the ONGOING SHADOW FUNCTION authorized by Scripture, affirmed by Scripture, and guaranteed (in Scripture) to properly occur in the future, just as it also properly occurred even AFTER the inauguration of the New Covenant in the first century.

Then again, maybe I'm wrong on all 12 arguments. I'm open to correction from any better-justified viewpoint.

If you agree with my 12 arguments, please let me know, because that would be encouraging to me.

If you disagree, please help me understand:
1. Which specific premise(s) in my 12 arguments do you reject (and why)?
2. Which Scriptural passage do you believe disconfirms my position (and why)?

Let's study and learn together, growing in love and grace and knowledge in our Lord Jesus Christ.

blessings to you all...


​

You are saying you would give a sacrifice of an animal? This would be trampling the Precious Blood of Christ that bought you,underfoot as a worthless thing...do you believe God would demand an animal sacrifice from you? Who has bewitched you?

 

[garee]

If animal sacrifices during the New Covenant era result in the punishment of Heb. 6:4-6, then:

The punishment of Heb. 6:4-6. What punishment? Tasting the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come and then fall away in unbelief?

5. Disciples who were animal-sacrificing priests (Ac. 6) were unable to be renewed to repentance.

How do you reconcile animal sacrifices pointing to the trus substance Christ into a tool for renewing as a work of repentance?

First things first. What did the first century reformation perform? Seeing the previous time period had come to an end .What was the purpose of the rent veil in that parable for the time then present??

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:Which was a figure (parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them "until" the time of reformation. Heb 9:8

Is there a specific reason you seek after shadows rather than walking by faith, the unseen??

 

[preston39]

Much miss understanding here;

The return of animal sacrifice is for the Jew...who believes not in Christ ...even though he remains true to the old covenant ...OT...and rejects Christ....New covenant NT.

 

[laymen]

Zech 14:16 ¶ And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD’S house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.

In the Millennial Kingdom animal sacrifice may serve to remind men that sin produces death.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

there is no death in the new kingdom. Rev 21:4

 

[BibleGuy]

And here's a good example of taking Scripture out of context and then misapplying it. The passage quoted indicates that Christ called His own body a metaphorical temple and that He would rise again the third day. Following Pentecost, every person who has the indwelling Holy Spirit also becomes a metaphorical temple of the Spirit, thus the Church itself becomes the Building of God, and every believer becomes a "living stone". These are all metaphorical and spiritual applications of "temple".

But when we come to the prophecy of Ezekiel there is NOTHING METAPHORICAL about that future temple to be built in Jerusalem. So why are Christians so determined to dismiss or negate what God has promised for a redeemed and restored Israel? The only logical answer is jealousy. But God has a perfect plan for BOTH the Church and redeemed Israel, and Christians should rejoice in this fact. God made covenants with Abraham and David, and those covenants will be TOTALLY fulfilled in the future. And God will reconcile any anomalies which we perceive so that all will become clear in the future.

Hi there!

Very good points.

Except for one.

You wrote: "But God has a perfect plan for BOTH the Church and redeemed Israel..."

My response: All Christians are grafted INTO redeemed Israel.

Therefore, all Christians ARE Israelites.

So, the corporate church IS Israel.

Let's be careful to STOP separating "church" from "Israel".

We Christians ARE Israelites...

After all, only ISRAELITES (Jer. 31) partake in the New Covenant.

And, Christians partake in the New Covenant.

CONCLUSION: Christians are accepted as fellow Israelite participants in the covenants between God and Israel.

Christians are Israelites.

regards...

 

[BibleGuy]

Might happen during the reign of an AntiChrist

Lots of folks will swallow unhook line and sinker

If the antichrist opposes sacrifices (Da. 9:27), then why do some among us also oppose sacrifices?

Just sayin...

Let's get on the right side here...

 

[BibleGuy]

We know that Jesus Christ is now our High Priest. Does it therefore not stand to reason that it will be Jesus Himself performing these animal sacrifices in your Millennial kingdom ? I can think of no greater abomination no matter what you think it's "purpose" might be for. Think on this Roger ... and use common sense. You really need to discard your dispensational nonsense.

Just wanted to jump in here...

By the way, I oppose dispensationalism...

But my OP shows Scriptural support for future sacrifices...

But you asked: " Does it therefore not stand to reason that it will be Jesus Himself performing these animal sacrifices in your Millennial kingdom ? I can think of no greater abomination..."

My response: No. Jesus is from the tribe of JUDAH (not Levi). So Jesus is NOT a levitical priest. So I would not expect Jesus to perform any animal sacrifices, even though those sacrifices are a shadow which points to the ultimate sacrifice of the Messiah Himself.

So I don't think Jesus will be performing the animal sacrifices prophesied for the future (Zec. 14), even though it is Jesus who RESTORES that very function to Levi (Mal. 3:1-4) in a rebuilt temple he will rebuild (Zec. 6) in fulfillment of the Davidic Covenant (Jer. 33), and these sacrifices might be occurring in the temple of Eze. 40-47.

But this viewpoint has nothing to do with dispensationalism.

And yes, dispensationalism (i.e., the view that "church" and "Israel" are distinct) is incorrect.

And speaking of "abominations", it is evidently the ANTICHRIST whose abomination OPPOSES ongoing sacrifices (Da. 9:27).

So then, if the antichrist opposes animal sacrifices, then this may confirm that animal sacrifices are a good thing.

regards...

 

[BibleGuy]

It's not ridiculous at at all at all.

Physical temple --------> Spiritual temple..

2 Cor 6:16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, “I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.

1 Pet 2:5 You also, as living stones, [fn]are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

1 Pet 2:6 For this is contained in Scripture:“BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.”

To even suggest the temple of God will be replaced by brick and mortar on dirt is blasphemous.

Hello,

You wrote: "To even suggest the temple of God will be replaced by brick and mortar on dirt is blasphemous."

My response: So Ezekiel was just joking (Eze. 40-47) ?

Zechariah was just joking (Zec. 6) ?

Hmmm.....I don't think so.

Paul and Peter can use metaphors to illustrate spiritual truths, EVEN WHILE the LITERAL truth (upon which the metaphor is based) continues to function.

After all, Paul CONDONED ANIMAL SACRIFICES at a LITERAL AND PHYSICAL temple (Ac. 21).

We should imitate Paul (1 Cor. 11:1) and do likewise.

Let's stop opposing Paul.

Let's stop accusing the prophets of blasphemy.

regards...

 

[Magenta]

My response: No. Jesus is from the tribe of JUDAH (not Levi). So Jesus is NOT a levitical priest. So I would not expect Jesus to perform any animal sacrifices, even though those sacrifices are a shadow which points to the ultimate sacrifice of the Messiah Himself.

Hello BibleGuy. You took quite a long break Welcome back

I found this an interesting read:

https://ichthys.com/mail-Judah.htm

 

[BibleGuy]

Actually quite interestingly the one popularly called Antichrist will take away the sacrifices it is written in the book of the prophet Daniel.

Very true! (Da. 9)

And if an abominable antichrist desires to OPPOSE animal sacrifices, then why do some among us desire the same as the antichrist?

Just sayin....

 

[BibleGuy]

Yes, Notice that this is not during the Millennium. It is during the first three years of Daniel's 70th week.

From what I can get from the Scriptures, the Sacrifices mention for the Millennium are for Memorial purposes only. Are they actually sacrificing an innocent animal..I don't think so,,,, WHY?

Jesus is ruling with an Iron rod at this time...Any sin will be met with quick and probably lethal judgement. At the age of 100 for newborns or the first 100 years of the Millennium for those who survived Daniel's 70th week each person will have to make a decision to believe or not to believe in the "Everlasting Gospel--Gospel of the Kingdom". Death awaits those who do not!

Therefore there will be no need to sacrifice innocent animals to alleviate the sins of man. There will be none or at least no long lived sin.

Hi there!

Good points.

But you wrote: "...the Sacrifices mention for the Millennium are for Memorial purposes only. Are they actually sacrificing an innocent animal..I don't think so,,,,"

My response: If Eze. 40-47 or Zec. 14 or Is. 66 or Mal. 3 or Zec. 6 or Dt. 30 or Jer. 33 is during the Millennium then we have good reason to suppose the sacrifices during the Millennium ARE animal sacrifices.

regards....

 

[BibleGuy]

Jesus fulfilled the scriptures:

Jesus knew that his mission was now finished, and to
fulfill Scripture he said, "I am thirsty."

17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.

Plus all those other passages mentioned.

Hello,

Jesus did NOT fulfill all Scripture yet.

Mal. 3 is future.

Zec. 6 is future.

Eze. 40-47 is future.

Jer. 33 is future.

Zec. 14 is future.

Dt. 30 is future.

And, Mt. 5:17 does NOT entail that every prophecy has already occurred.

I think you're imposing a foreign conception of "fulfill" upon the text in Mt. 5:17.

Robert fulfills his covenant of marriage with his wife every day.

Did Robert fulfill that covenant yesterday? Yes!

Was the covenant terminated yesterday? No! They are STILL MARRIED, and the covenant continues to be fulfilled, even into the future.

CONCLUSION: "FULFILL" does not entail "TERMINATION".

That's why Mt. 5:19 still applies to YOU.

And Mt. 5:19 requires animal sacrifices, when properly performed.

The context of the very passage you cited lends support for the Biblical position I've set forth.

regards...

 

[BibleGuy]

Yes, He was preaching to the Jewish people and Any Gentiles that Might happen to listen. They were still under the LAW.

AND! Those pre-crucifixion teachings APPLY to all of us disciples (Mt. 28:20).

That's why Mt. 5:19 applies to US also.

The law STILL applies to us.

See "TORAH" (Jer. 31) in the New Covenant.

And this TORAH entails animal sacrifices, when properly performed.

Regards...

 

[BibleGuy]

Acts, Galatians, Romans and other writings of Paul gives us the NEW Commandments of Jesus Christ...Yes, these are different in some cases and some not. There are some new ones as well.

i.e. Paul's commandments do not allow anyone to follow the Sabbath.[/U] Of course, under the Law of Moses, this commandment was ceremonial and if not followed was punishable by death. Death would also be the result of two other commandments of Moses.

The Law ended with the Crucifixion and the Church Age Gospel began on Pentecost. Peter and John both listened to Paul as you can see some of his teachings being assimilated and taught to the Jews.

Hello,

You wrote: "Paul's commandments do not allow anyone to follow the Sabbath."

My response: Nonsense. Paul said we should KEEP God's commands (1 Cor. 7:19), which of course are contained in the written Torah of Moses (1 Ki. 2:3; Dt. 1:3; 5:27-33; 32:46), which of course entails Sabbath observance.

Paul MODELED Sabbath participation (Ac. 13). We should do likewise (1 Cor. 11:1).

You wrote: "The Law ended with the Crucifixion."

My response: To the contrary, Jesus upheld Torah (Mt. 4:4; 5:19; 7:21-23; 13:41-42; 23:2-3,23,34; Lk. 22), and these Torah teachings apply to all of US disciples (Mt. 28:20). And this Torah entails animal sacrifices.

You wrote: "...the Church Age Gospel began on Pentecost."

My response: No. Jesus preached the gospel BEFORE Pentecost.

The church existed even at sinai (Ac. 7:38). Thus, the church did NOT begin at Pentecost.

Let's get back to Scripture.

regards...