Hi, the earth is about 6 billion years old. I did post something on it the other day and will try to find it out again, but things to do first. 
The "Days" of Creation
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How would you come to that conclusion? We have no other scriptural information on this except for science and I don't trust them when comes to these issues. I also don't believe that God is restricted to science or math or anything else.
The old earth creation doctrine needs a bit of an introduction if you have not gotten the finer details of how that works. To begin the ones that can develop that theory are the ones being referenced in Re:1 as being the generation that could possibly see the trumps manifest into reality where the 7th one is when Jesus returns. Revelations is like an index at the end of a book and the items listed can be any part of the book. Our knowledge of the universe is meshed with the Ge:1 version of creation as Ge:2 has a version that is specific to the area the garden is in.
Time is measured today as being 360 days represents a full year but that is starting when the last giant was killed in the exodus wars. Giants were the children of the sons of God that are in Ge:6 and time for them is measured as being 1,000 is equal to one day when you are with God.
Adam died at the age of 930 years, that is 70 years short of 1,000 years so the determination that God made when He said Adam would die the same day that he sinned is accurate. When the 1,000 year reign starts it is also referred to as being 'one day'. Judgment Day is also supposed to last one day and the choices so are for the time it takes ti 'interview' about 7B people will take 24 hours or 1,000 years or something else as that takes place in the 3rd heaven.
Adam and Eve were exiled from the Garden in 4,005BC and that is the end of day 7/beginning of day 8. God took away the mist that He introduced in Ge:2 rather than the people moved out of the area. (ice age climate shift is the best answer for how that happened, on the lasted 360,000 years)
We measure time by going from 4,005 to 4,006 to 4,004. A week usually one day and then you move sideways to the next day of the week.
Ge:1 has to show that the end of day 1 is 4BYA and the way to do that is to add one zero to the base date as shown below'
Day 7 ends in 4,000BC
Day 6 ends in 40,000BC as the zero is put in the thousand column so the number already there moves to the left.
Day 5 ends in 400,000BC and that is also the start of the 6th days so that is how old Adam is as that is when God made him, Eve was created at the end of that day.
Day 4 ends in 4,000,000BC
Day 3 ends in 40,000,000BC
Day 2 ends in 400,000,000BC
Day 1 ends in 4,000,000,000BC
Meshing with science is actually the easy part and it is a better model than science today promotes. This is a really short explanation.
Day 1 ends with sunlight striking the earth so it creates a day/night cycle. The earth is a molten ball of liquid rock basically.
Day 2 ends with water being found as a liquid on the ground (top of the highest mountain) and as clouds above the dry ground.
Day 3 ends with forests with fruit bearing trees existing. The water might have just reached the lowest parts and the oceans then began to form. Forest are a complete environment and the one we have today is the one there was back then. The other life is not mentioned until later as plants were the important part of that day. Being mentioned later is not when they were created, it is when they were given a name.
Day 4 ends with time as we know it was established. If it had been established at the end of day 1 a day would have been about 6 hours long and months and years would also have been different. That point is something no other ancient books cover so that puts the Bible ahead of everybody just because of that one aspect. Oceans and forests would have continued growing as planet Eden became full of life except for the garden area, it was a perpetual desert.
Day 5 ends with the oceans being in the same shape as we find them today. It can be argues that whales are birds that learned to live in the water and over a few million years it adapted it's body a little bit, but it was an adaptation rather than it being a new species. Birds, fish, and land animals are the 3 species created, there are no cross species.
Day 6 ends with the garden area catching up to the rest of Eden and Adam has Eve and she never met God so all her instructions came from her husband, Adam.
Day 7 ends with the exile from the garden and the rule of fallen angels begin.
That is a quick summation, getting into the finer detail is where the differences are and if we get that far you will end up agreeing that the Bible's version is a better version.
Time is measured today as being 360 days represents a full year but that is starting when the last giant was killed in the exodus wars. Giants were the children of the sons of God that are in Ge:6 and time for them is measured as being 1,000 is equal to one day when you are with God.
Adam died at the age of 930 years, that is 70 years short of 1,000 years so the determination that God made when He said Adam would die the same day that he sinned is accurate. When the 1,000 year reign starts it is also referred to as being 'one day'. Judgment Day is also supposed to last one day and the choices so are for the time it takes ti 'interview' about 7B people will take 24 hours or 1,000 years or something else as that takes place in the 3rd heaven.
Adam and Eve were exiled from the Garden in 4,005BC and that is the end of day 7/beginning of day 8. God took away the mist that He introduced in Ge:2 rather than the people moved out of the area. (ice age climate shift is the best answer for how that happened, on the lasted 360,000 years)
We measure time by going from 4,005 to 4,006 to 4,004. A week usually one day and then you move sideways to the next day of the week.
Ge:1 has to show that the end of day 1 is 4BYA and the way to do that is to add one zero to the base date as shown below'
Day 7 ends in 4,000BC
Day 6 ends in 40,000BC as the zero is put in the thousand column so the number already there moves to the left.
Day 5 ends in 400,000BC and that is also the start of the 6th days so that is how old Adam is as that is when God made him, Eve was created at the end of that day.
Day 4 ends in 4,000,000BC
Day 3 ends in 40,000,000BC
Day 2 ends in 400,000,000BC
Day 1 ends in 4,000,000,000BC
Meshing with science is actually the easy part and it is a better model than science today promotes. This is a really short explanation.
Day 1 ends with sunlight striking the earth so it creates a day/night cycle. The earth is a molten ball of liquid rock basically.
Day 2 ends with water being found as a liquid on the ground (top of the highest mountain) and as clouds above the dry ground.
Day 3 ends with forests with fruit bearing trees existing. The water might have just reached the lowest parts and the oceans then began to form. Forest are a complete environment and the one we have today is the one there was back then. The other life is not mentioned until later as plants were the important part of that day. Being mentioned later is not when they were created, it is when they were given a name.
Day 4 ends with time as we know it was established. If it had been established at the end of day 1 a day would have been about 6 hours long and months and years would also have been different. That point is something no other ancient books cover so that puts the Bible ahead of everybody just because of that one aspect. Oceans and forests would have continued growing as planet Eden became full of life except for the garden area, it was a perpetual desert.
Day 5 ends with the oceans being in the same shape as we find them today. It can be argues that whales are birds that learned to live in the water and over a few million years it adapted it's body a little bit, but it was an adaptation rather than it being a new species. Birds, fish, and land animals are the 3 species created, there are no cross species.
Day 6 ends with the garden area catching up to the rest of Eden and Adam has Eve and she never met God so all her instructions came from her husband, Adam.
Day 7 ends with the exile from the garden and the rule of fallen angels begin.
That is a quick summation, getting into the finer detail is where the differences are and if we get that far you will end up agreeing that the Bible's version is a better version.
Mankind is an image of God and the Holy Spirit, primates are bests of the field and they were created from some form of 'seed'. That seeds for all other flesh would have been provided by the 4 beasts standing around the throne.
Re:4:7:
And the first beast was like a lion,
and the second beast like a calf,
and the third beast had a face as a man,
and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
It can be promoted that angels were the builders of all the ancient megaliths and if sin had not entered the world thos places would still be as good as new. Primates may have been witnesses but they were not the builders.
Re:4:7:
And the first beast was like a lion,
and the second beast like a calf,
and the third beast had a face as a man,
and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
It can be promoted that angels were the builders of all the ancient megaliths and if sin had not entered the world thos places would still be as good as new. Primates may have been witnesses but they were not the builders.
While it is indeed true that the Hebrew word yom can mean either an indefinite period of time or a 24 hour day; indefinite periods of time do not have morning and evening. The creation narrative beginning with Gen 1:3 and ending with Gen 2:23 speaks of six 24 hour days. However, the vahv translated as and in verses 2 and 3 can legitimately be translated as subsequently. This allows for an indefinite period of time between verse 1 and verse 2; and again between verse 2 and verse 3. So the question becomes whether The creation narrative beginning with Gen 1:3 and ending with Gen 2:23 speaks of original creation or re-creation after a cataclysmic upheaval.
Make no mistake, the thousand years in Revelation will be a literal thousand years. The context should always be considered first. Here in Revelation the thousand years is self descriptive not requiring the meaning of a thousand elsewhere in scripture to be applied to it.
Also, Jesus does not return at the seventh trumpet, but after the pouring out of the 7th bowl judgment which completes God's wrath.
Also, Jesus does not return at the seventh trumpet, but after the pouring out of the 7th bowl judgment which completes God's wrath.
You are right to be skeptical, but you ask "how would you come to that conclusion" and there is an article here.
How old is the universe? | Determining the Age of the Universe
The earth is less old and as we are talking about billions of years, I think we have to accept that in this case 'yom' means an age.
This does not distract from the Bible account in any way shape or form.
How old is the universe? | Determining the Age of the Universe
The earth is less old and as we are talking about billions of years, I think we have to accept that in this case 'yom' means an age.
This does not distract from the Bible account in any way shape or form.
I agree.
Jesus returns on the day the two witnesses are resurrected. The vials are the 3rd woe and it is Jesus that is pouring the last one out.
Re:16:17-21:
And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air;
and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven,
from the throne,
saying,
It is done.
And there were voices,
and thunders,
and lightnings;
and there was a great earthquake,
such as was not since men were upon the earth,
so mighty an earthquake,
and so great.
And the great city was divided into three parts,
and the cities of the nations fell:
and great Babylon came in remembrance before God,
to give unto her the cup of the wine
of the fierceness of his wrath.
And every island fled away,
and the mountains were not found.
And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven,
every stone about the weight of a talent:
and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail;
for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
There is a quake at the end of Re:11 that kills 7,000 men. It is a different quake, the verses below are that same quake and the valley it creates is the one the river in Eze:47 will flow in as well as being the location of the graveyard that is referenced in Eze:47.
Zec:14:1-9:
Behold,
the day of the LORD cometh,
and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;
and the city shall be taken,
and the houses rifled,
and the women ravished;
and half of the city shall go forth into captivity,
and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then shall the LORD go forth,
and fight against those nations,
as when he fought in the day of battle.
And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,
which is before Jerusalem on the east,
and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west,
and there shall be a very great valley;
and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north,
and half of it toward the south.
And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains;
for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal:
yea,
ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah:
and the LORD my God shall come,
and all the saints with thee.
And it shall come to pass in that day,
that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD,
not day,
nor night:
but it shall come to pass,
that at evening time it shall be light.
And it shall be in that day,
that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem;
half of them toward the former sea,
and half of them toward the hinder sea:
in summer and in winter shall it be.
And the LORD shall be king over all the earth:
in that day shall there be one LORD,
and his name one.
The river in Eze:47 is a mile wide and the house is the Temple that Christ will build.
Jesus returns on the day the two witnesses are resurrected. The vials are the 3rd woe and it is Jesus that is pouring the last one out.
Re:16:17-21:
And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air;
and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven,
from the throne,
saying,
It is done.
And there were voices,
and thunders,
and lightnings;
and there was a great earthquake,
such as was not since men were upon the earth,
so mighty an earthquake,
and so great.
And the great city was divided into three parts,
and the cities of the nations fell:
and great Babylon came in remembrance before God,
to give unto her the cup of the wine
of the fierceness of his wrath.
And every island fled away,
and the mountains were not found.
And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven,
every stone about the weight of a talent:
and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail;
for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
There is a quake at the end of Re:11 that kills 7,000 men. It is a different quake, the verses below are that same quake and the valley it creates is the one the river in Eze:47 will flow in as well as being the location of the graveyard that is referenced in Eze:47.
Zec:14:1-9:
Behold,
the day of the LORD cometh,
and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;
and the city shall be taken,
and the houses rifled,
and the women ravished;
and half of the city shall go forth into captivity,
and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then shall the LORD go forth,
and fight against those nations,
as when he fought in the day of battle.
And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,
which is before Jerusalem on the east,
and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west,
and there shall be a very great valley;
and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north,
and half of it toward the south.
And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains;
for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal:
yea,
ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah:
and the LORD my God shall come,
and all the saints with thee.
And it shall come to pass in that day,
that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD,
not day,
nor night:
but it shall come to pass,
that at evening time it shall be light.
And it shall be in that day,
that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem;
half of them toward the former sea,
and half of them toward the hinder sea:
in summer and in winter shall it be.
And the LORD shall be king over all the earth:
in that day shall there be one LORD,
and his name one.
The river in Eze:47 is a mile wide and the house is the Temple that Christ will build.
Perhaps your level of understand is why you see it as more than a little confusing rather than the flaw is with my post. .
Revelation shifts back where time is measured like it was back in Genesis when the 1,000 year reign begins. If you don'y like God using powers of 10 in the creation story then I'm more than willing yto read your version and I won'y even mock it as I rip it apart if I can.
Sound fair?
The ones that Re:1 applies to is the ones that see the things mentioned in Revelations manifest into reality as the trumps sound.
We are also the generation that and put 'all the kingdoms in the world' from Jer:25 as being able to be contained in 1/4 of the earth as mentioned in the 4th seal prophecy. What other generation would have a globe that showed the earth is 1/4 dry land and that is where you finds all the nations.
Re:6:7:
And when he had opened the fourth seal,
I heard the voice of the fourth beast say,
Come and see.
Re:6:8:
And I looked,
and behold a pale horse:
and his name that sat on him was Death,
and Hell followed with him.
And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth,
to kill with sword,
and with hunger,
and with death,
and with the beasts of the earth.
Jer:25:26:
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
The Re:1 generation is also about the first to understand the flood story. To dump 22ft of rain on the earth would need the water that would lower the oceans by 5 1/2 ft. If the water stays on the high hills and mountain tops for 150 days means it fell as snow rather than as 'rain'. We are the generation that could use the 360 days to create a time period of 360,000 yeas are being a major ice-age where the climate changes bring rains to the whole of the middle east and the rest of the desert belt that circles the whole earth.
One more example to show that this generation can unravel most mysteries and it is very easy to do.
Using the map above and the text from the OT you can easily determine the crossing is at the narrow point of the Bittern Lake.
Ex:14:2:
Speak unto the children of Israel,
that they turn and encamp before Pi-hahiroth,
between Migdol and the sea,
over against Baal-zephon:
before it shall ye encamp by the sea.
Revelation shifts back where time is measured like it was back in Genesis when the 1,000 year reign begins. If you don'y like God using powers of 10 in the creation story then I'm more than willing yto read your version and I won'y even mock it as I rip it apart if I can.
Sound fair?
The ones that Re:1 applies to is the ones that see the things mentioned in Revelations manifest into reality as the trumps sound.
We are also the generation that and put 'all the kingdoms in the world' from Jer:25 as being able to be contained in 1/4 of the earth as mentioned in the 4th seal prophecy. What other generation would have a globe that showed the earth is 1/4 dry land and that is where you finds all the nations.
Re:6:7:
And when he had opened the fourth seal,
I heard the voice of the fourth beast say,
Come and see.
Re:6:8:
And I looked,
and behold a pale horse:
and his name that sat on him was Death,
and Hell followed with him.
And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth,
to kill with sword,
and with hunger,
and with death,
and with the beasts of the earth.
Jer:25:26:
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
The Re:1 generation is also about the first to understand the flood story. To dump 22ft of rain on the earth would need the water that would lower the oceans by 5 1/2 ft. If the water stays on the high hills and mountain tops for 150 days means it fell as snow rather than as 'rain'. We are the generation that could use the 360 days to create a time period of 360,000 yeas are being a major ice-age where the climate changes bring rains to the whole of the middle east and the rest of the desert belt that circles the whole earth.
One more example to show that this generation can unravel most mysteries and it is very easy to do.
Using the map above and the text from the OT you can easily determine the crossing is at the narrow point of the Bittern Lake.
Ex:14:2:
Speak unto the children of Israel,
that they turn and encamp before Pi-hahiroth,
between Migdol and the sea,
over against Baal-zephon:
before it shall ye encamp by the sea.