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finaldesire

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#21
Maybe the answer is grace.......??

a. Not getting what we deserve
b. In Christ getting what we don't deserve
Sounds like Stockholm syndrome, identifying with the person who's going to kill you.
 
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finaldesire

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That is why God is so merciful,and full of grace,and forgiving,for while we are sinners we did not put ourselves in this position for we were born not knowing God,so we were wrong until we came to God in the truth.

It is not our fault why we were put in that position for we did not do it ourselves,but were born in that situation,but there is still no excuse because when we are older we know right from wrong,and have to do what is right and correct our situation.

Lucifer was created perfect in his ways until iniquity was found in him,so Lucifer did it to himself along with the angels that followed him so there is no salvation,and also he has no way to put off the sin for he tainted his whole being.

But a human has flesh,and all sin resides in the flesh,and can be right with God,and put off the flesh,and be saved.

It is not our fault why we are sinners because we were born in that situation and did not do it ourselves,but it is our fault if we do not correct it later on by accepting the truth and choosing to represent goodness following God.

So what we are doing is correcting a situation that we were not at fault,for we were born defective and then we have to correct it.
Defective things get recycled.
 
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finaldesire

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I think God sees me... as his daughter whom he loves...he knows I need a lot of work, and he's working out things in my life... He see's someone who has failed her whole life... made mistakes.. have been rejected even from birth... but he doesn't reject me... I think he see's me as someone who loves caring for people, helping others.He also know, I'm weak... in a lot of ways... but he will make me stronger ... (sorry my punctuation is not the best)
That came out fine.
 
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Sounds like Stockholm syndrome, identifying with the person who's going to kill you.
Highly unlikely.....and the principle bears out

The law deems all guilty of death <--what we deserve

Salvation by grace through faith that is dealt by God <---what we don't deserve

Occam's Razor and the simplest answer<----the simplicity found in Christ
 
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finaldesire

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Well, if God sees us then you must believe that God sees you also, so wouldn't that mean God sees you as a light above the brightness of the sun?

Since God said let there be light, and there was light, then if God saw the light in the darkness, then if darkness comprehended it not then how do you think God sees you?

We have the technology, we can rebuild him.
 
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finaldesire

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Highly unlikely.....and the principle bears out

The law deems all guilty of death <--what we deserve

Salvation by grace through faith that is dealt by God <---what we don't deserve

Occam's Razor and the simplest answer<----the simplicity found in Christ
Occam's Razor states that the right answer is usually the one with the less assumptions.
 
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Occam's Razor states that the right answer is usually the one with the less assumptions.
Nice try...it states that the simplest answer is most likely the right answer

Definition of Occam's razor. : a scientific and philosophical rule that entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily which is interpreted as requiring that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex or that explanations of unknown phenomena be sought first in terms of known quantities.
 
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dalconn

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How do you think God sees you, your character, your heart and your motives.
He sees us as sinners until we receive the Holy Spirit of promise whereby we are sealed until the end
 
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eternally-gratefull

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He sees me as his son, So precious, He sent his son to die for me.
 
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God sees purity & holiness.

Not mine, but Christ's.

If He saw only me....... it would be a mess at best.
 
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finaldesire

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Nice try...it states that the simplest answer is most likely the right answer

Definition of Occam's razor. : a scientific and philosophical rule that entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily which is interpreted as requiring that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex or that explanations of unknown phenomena be sought first in terms of known quantities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Read it in context.
 

prove-all

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What Kind Of An Ambassador Are You?

Do You Have a Good Name?
Do You Have a Good reputation ?

In the first-century Church, members in Corinth had become prideful and judgmental.
They criticized the Apostle Paul for what they perceived as his weak speaking.

Paul responded with a challenge: “EXAMINE YOURSELVES, whether ye be in the faith;
PROVE YOUR OWN SELVES” (2 Corinthians 13:5). You’ve been examining me, he said;
turn that examination on yourselves.

Examine here means to test, prove or scrutinize to see whether a thing is genuine or not.

Take a good look at yourself, Paul says. What is going on deep down?
Examine not just your actions but also your motives.

It is also needed to ask for God’s guidance in this process
2Examine me, O Lord, and prove me; try my reins and my heart.

It all starts with a focused look in the spiritual mirror.

Consider the poem “Self-Examination” by Isaac Watts:

“Let not soft slumber close your eyes, / Before you’ve collected thrice / The train of action
through the day! / Where have my feet chose out their way? / What have I learned, where’er
I’ve been, / From all I’ve heard, from all I’ve seen? / What have I more that’s worth the knowing?
/ What have I done that’s worth the doing? / What have I sought that I should shun? /
What duty have I left undone, / Or into what new follies run?

“Ponder the path of thy feet, and let all thy ways be established” (Proverbs 4:26).

How strong is your sense of purpose in life?
Ask yourself: What are you really passionate about?
What is it about these things that excites you?
How do they benefit other people?

Think of your legacy: How can you preserve the wisdom or other treasures you would like
to bequeath to them? “A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children’s children …”

Do You Have a Good Name?
When people think of your name, they think of your reputation.
What do others think when they hear your name?

How important is it to make a good name for yourself? Proverbs 22:1.

1A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches,
and loving favour rather than silver and gold.

Which is more important: the name you are given at birth, or how
you define that name over the course of your lifetime? Ecclesiastes 7:1
1A good name is better than precious ointment;
and the day of death than the day of one's birth.
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It's possible for your actions to bring shame to other people,
bringing shame to your parents and to your family name.

26He that wasteth his father, and chaseth away his mother,
is a son that causeth shame, and bringeth reproach.

7Whoso keepeth the law is a wise son: but he that is a companion
of riotous men shameth his father. Proverbs 19:26; 28:7.
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Your actions can actually improve the reputations of other people. You can
bring honor to your parents and increase the value of your family name

Proverbs 23:24-25 The father of the righteous shall greatly rejoice:
and he that begetteth a wise child shall have joy of him.

25Thy father and thy mother shall be glad, and she that bare thee shall rejoice.

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How can you improve your name and reputation? Proverbs 21:21; 11:27; 14:9.
How can you harm your reputation? Proverbs 12:8; 13:5.

If someone steals, he gets a reputation as a thief. If he lies or stabs others in the back,
that is exactly what he becomes known for. But if he is honest, convicted and upright,
day after day, month after month, he builds a strong, unshakable reputation for those virtues.

People can tell whether your actions are worthy of a good reputation
11Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.
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Speaking about your own goodness does not enhance your reputation.

6Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness: but a faithful man who can find?

2Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

The only way to build a solid reputation is to make sure your “doings” are pure and right.
Focus on living virtuously, and “[l]et another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth.”

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Being impressed with your own deeds is dangerous.
How do you obtain a good name and honor God’s way?

23A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

4By humility and the fear of the Lord are riches, and honour, and life.

People will never have true honor until they become humble in spirit. People who
realize their limitations, admit their mistakes, seek instruction from God, heed
correction and are concerned for others will receive honor from both God and men.
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A person who does diligent work will be looked up to by others

29Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings;
he shall not stand before mean men.

5He that gathereth in summer is a wise son:
but he that sleepeth in harvest is a son that causeth shame.

26As vinegar to the teeth, and as smoke to the eyes,
so is the sluggard to them that send him.

The person who does his work well and on time will receive recognition,
praise, promotion and a reputation that will serve him well over time.

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Gossip can harm someone else’s good name. Proverbs 26:22; 16:28.

21As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire;
so is a contentious man to kindle strife.

28A froward man soweth strife: and a whisperer separateth chief friends.

People hurt each other through gossip casually and frequently.They think they are
making themselves look better by pointing out the real or perceived faults of others.

But people who gossip are actually damaging their own reputations at the same time.
If you want a good name, respect everyone else’s good names as well.
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As a young man, David had a good reputation 1 Samuel 16:18.
He maintained that reputation throughout his life, finding favor
with God and man .1 Samuel 18:30; Acts 13:22; 7:46.

How did King David handle people who slandered other people’s names?

5Whoso privily slandereth his neighbour, him will I cut off:
him that hath an high look and a proud heart will not I suffer.
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You can improve your reputation by simply keeping certain things to yourself

28Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise:
and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

6Blessings are upon the head of the just:
but violence covereth the mouth of the wicked.

7The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot.

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What sort of legacy will you leave behind? Strive to leave a strong,
lasting, positive name that lives on even after you are gone.

The bottom line is, work hard to obey God and treat other people with kindness
and respect. Follow the principles of successful relationships laid out in the Bible.

Your parents gave you a name at birth, but what that name has come to mean
—and what it will mean far into the future—is mostly determined by you!

Make your name a good one.
 

prove-all

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Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence?

The spirit of a man is the lamp of the Lord, Searching all the inner depths of his heart.
 

Namiette

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I think He sees me as His daughter who was lost and He found her, adopted her, cleansed her, and clothed her into Christ's righteousness... so now, He looks at me, an imperfect and weak person, through Christ's perfection...
and He says "I love you, child"
 
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AuntieAnt

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Like a loving mother or father who holds their precious child tenderly in their arms while dancing around the room singing with joy, our Glorious Loving Father God looks at us in that same reality! And just like any loving parent invests their whole heart and soul in training and teaching their child to walk uprightly is how our precious Holy Father protects, guides and teaches us. :eek:~ Zephaniah 3:17 ~ Proverbs 23:24 ~

[video=youtube;cYQLLpWR9Q0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYQLLpWR9Q0[/video]
 

Blain

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Like a loving mother or father who holds their precious child tenderly in their arms while dancing around the room singing with joy, our Glorious Loving Father God looks at us in that same reality! And just like any loving parent invests their whole heart and soul in training and teaching their child to walk uprightly is how our precious Holy Father protects, guides and teaches us. :eek:~ Zephaniah 3:17 ~ Proverbs 23:24 ~

[video=youtube;cYQLLpWR9Q0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYQLLpWR9Q0[/video]
Auntie that was so beautiful it almost brought me to tears, you should write a book with that stuff.