Living In Spiritual Failure
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Part of me wants to say "What do you not want to say them?
I say that because we can say something that can add to the bondage.
So if it were me I would say something along the lines of.
Ok whats going on.
Encourage them to be totally honest warts and all with no condemnation.
Just listen to start with, let them talk.
Don't give advice (but do so if God lays it in your heart)
Tell them that you will walk with them all the way.
If they come to you they do so because they trust you.
Reassure that you will not discuss with others unless they agree for you to do so.
But also be aware that if they reveal something they have done or are doing that is extreme then it has to reported to the authority.
One example being child sexual abuse
I say that because we can say something that can add to the bondage.
So if it were me I would say something along the lines of.
Ok whats going on.
Encourage them to be totally honest warts and all with no condemnation.
Just listen to start with, let them talk.
Don't give advice (but do so if God lays it in your heart)
Tell them that you will walk with them all the way.
If they come to you they do so because they trust you.
Reassure that you will not discuss with others unless they agree for you to do so.
But also be aware that if they reveal something they have done or are doing that is extreme then it has to reported to the authority.
One example being child sexual abuse
Spiritual failure may not necessarily be spiritual bondage. Peter denied Christ three times (failure) but he certainly was not in bondage. One would need to know a great deal about any person before giving any kind of suitable advice in this context. Then again, some people may imagine they are failures because they are comparing themselves to someone else.
If the 'born again' believers can do that why are they not healing all the sick in the hospitals as that was associated with the 'signs following'? It appears they have no special skills and if God sends you a message in a language that you cannot understand you are not a friend of God as He is speaking so you cannot understand His message. Not a good boat to be in IMO.
Do you know what listen means? People in bondage, know that they are in bondage. They are not looking for a lecture. They are looking for a way out. Believe it or not they know not only the way out, but every excuse to remain in bondage. Every time you listen, ever time you pray together will bring them closer to Christ and freedom.
You do remember how Jesus gathered Saul right? The light and the blindness and help coming that was sent to him. That hasn't happen again for anybody, ever.
When God baptized Jesus He went for a 40 day fast. When Jesus baptized the ones in a room on the night of His resurrection they also went through a 40 fast in the time He was with them.
Nobody has gone through a 40 fast like that so nobody has has baptism like that no matter how it is being marketed becoming a believer has no gifts other than a more relaxed heart. The Christian evangelicans do not have the best doctrine as they promote a 7 year trib and a rapture that lets believers escape that but they do get to come back and kill all the sinners for Jesus. Bit radicalized it seems.
When God baptized Jesus He went for a 40 day fast. When Jesus baptized the ones in a room on the night of His resurrection they also went through a 40 fast in the time He was with them.
Nobody has gone through a 40 fast like that so nobody has has baptism like that no matter how it is being marketed becoming a believer has no gifts other than a more relaxed heart. The Christian evangelicans do not have the best doctrine as they promote a 7 year trib and a rapture that lets believers escape that but they do get to come back and kill all the sinners for Jesus. Bit radicalized it seems.
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Or it could be that people realize that they do nothing because God does the heavy lifting in this case. However I believe listening and praying is MORE than nothing...IT may be nothing to the world but prayer has power in the spiritual realm.
It's God's power and truth and Holy Word that's sets people free of bondage not just of evil spirits but also spiritual strongholds in their minds created by lies and false doctrines
It's God's power and truth and Holy Word that's sets people free of bondage not just of evil spirits but also spiritual strongholds in their minds created by lies and false doctrines
