Genesis 3:21 -- the rest of the story?

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what other significant articles of clothing are in the scripture -- how are they connected?

are there any other physical objects said to have been manufactured by God, to compare and contrast?

the stones He inscribed and gave to Moses - is the engraving eroded? Christ drawing in the sand. i don't mean to make an idol of some bronze serpent, it is a figure. it is an extraordinary figure - so i wonder how extraordinary is it? it's kind of amazing that these objects are mentioned further in scripture - if indeed that's the case.
 
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hey if nothing else, here's an interesting topic & question for a thread that hopefully won't end in a divisive tirade with people questioning each other's salvation and accusing each other of heresy



((thought post, somewhat naively))
 
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posthuman said:

this event is a striking figure of Christ's atonement, though, isn't it?
if it happened the way we would naturally assume, that two creatures were slaughtered for the sake of covering the shame of the two humans, then it's the first mention of the shedding of blood, and it's connected with His grace, and significantly a covering by His own hand, rejecting the coverings made by their hands, mirrored in the rejection of Cains offering and the acceptance of Abels.

i'm asking myself, is there a significant difference between things wrought by God's hand and things wrought by mans pointed out here, does that extend to physical reality - is it fair to compare to human manufacturing or is it ignorant to assume that?
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The like "figure" is there Bones, yet the skins did not allow them to eat the tree of life, whereas once clothed in Christ's righteousness we do eat from the tree of life and drink of the living waters which are all symbols of the Holy Spirit.
 
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posthuman said:
...what happened to these? did they rot and crumble to dust like man-made raiment? is there anywhere else in the scripture where God Himself tailors suits for people?
any other significant articles of garb that are possibly linked to these?
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We are not told as to what happened to the coats made for Adam and Eve, and even which animals were sacrificed to cover these two sinners. But most Bible commentators suggest that this action by God Himself was a preview of the Lamb of God taking away the sins of the world, and believers being clothed with the righteousness of Christ by God s grace. Thus it is entirely possibly that lambs or sheep were sacrificed and their skins made into clothing to cover the nakedness of Adam and Eve. This was clearly an act of grace, since neither of them deserved this kindness.

 
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posthuman said:
what happened to these? did they rot and crumble to dust like man-made raiment?
is there anywhere else in the scripture where God Himself tailors suits for people?
any other significant articles of garb that are possibly linked to these?
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According to chapter 7 of the Book of Jasher, which is interesting,
albeit irrelevant, the garments were passed from Adam and Eve to Enoch,
to Methuselah, then taken by Noah, who brought them through The Flood.
Afterward Ham stole them and gave them to Cush, who passed them to Nimrod.
When Nimrod was twenty he put them on and afterward was strengthened.
Read about it here starting in verse 24.

Concerning another passage of Scripture where God tailors suits
for people, that's outlined in Ephesians 6 starting in verse 10.
 
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posthuman said:
what other significant articles of clothing are in the scripture -- how are they connected?

are there any other physical objects said to have been manufactured by God, to compare and contrast?
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Well didn't God manufacture the coat of skin for his Son in the womb of Mary?


 
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Well didn't God manufacture the coat of skin for his Son in the womb of Mary?
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Do you think we're talking about pre-fall Adam and Eve literally having no skin?
 
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What about Elijah's mantle, passed down to Elisha?

John the Baptist wore a garment similarly described as making him look 'hairy' -- could it have been the same mantle?
 
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posthuman said:
What about Elijah's mantle, passed down to Elisha?

John the Baptist wore a garment similarly described as making him look 'hairy' -- could it have been the same mantle?
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This is turning into a very bizarre thread. Now all we need is the Shroud of Turin brought into the mix.
 
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@ Huckleberry, the armor described in Ephesians 6 isn't a literal, corporeal set if clothing made directly by the hand if God. Adam and Eve's aprons/robes/tunics/garments are. That's kind of significant.
 
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Do you think we're talking about pre-fall Adam and Eve literally having no skin?
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So are you saying a person doesn't exist until after the flesh has the breath of life?
 
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This is turning into a very bizarre thread. Now all we need is the Shroud of Turin brought into the mix.
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Its pretty bizarre that God Himself made two sets of clothes. Physical objects for people to wear.

Unless you don't think that's literally true?

What about the Ten Commandments written on stone by His own finger? Significant, right? But we pass right over this in Genesis 3 like it's nothing. No one hardly ever even brings it up, and if they do, they just want to talk about it metaphorically. But these are real objects crafted by the Lord. Bizarre indeed!
 
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Zmouth said:
So are you saying a person doesn't exist until after the flesh has the breath of life?
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Was Adam created with skin covering his organs or not, weirdo?

:p
 
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posthuman said:
But we pass right over this in Genesis 3 like it's nothing. No one hardly ever even brings it up, and if they do, they just want to talk about it metaphorically. But these are real objects crafted by the Lord. Bizarre indeed!
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We pass over this because it has very little to do with the big picture. God gave the first human pair clothing to cover their nakedness, and ever since human beings are the only creatures who clothe themselves. Even the most primitive tribes have some sort of clothing.

The spiritual aspect is of more significance since those "coats" represent the "robe of righteousness" which God requires every sinner to wear in order to enter into His holy presence. And that "robe of righteousness" can be nothing less than the absolute righteousness of Christ, imputed to the sinner who believes and obeys the Gospel.
 
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posthuman said:
@ Huckleberry, the armor described in Ephesians 6 isn't a literal, corporeal set if clothing made directly by the hand if God. Adam and Eve's aprons/robes/tunics/garments are. That's kind of significant.
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After pondering it for a few minutes and trying to view it logically, what seems to make the most sense
to me is that God skinned the serpent, who was actually a dragon, and made their clothes from that.
Obviously pure conjecture, but if you're God, who you gonna kill?
 
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How nice were they?

Custom fit?

Are you picturing basic ill-formed caveman rag just kinda draped around the waist?
 
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Genesis 3:21 --

Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
(KJV)

The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them.
(NASB)

The LORD God made clothing out of skins for Adam and his wife, and He clothed them.
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coats, garments, clothing -- elsewhere the word is rendered tunic, robe. physical cloaks fashioned by God's own hand ((!!!))


what happened to these? did they rot and crumble to dust like man-made raiment?
is there anywhere else in the scripture where God Himself tailors suits for people?
any other significant articles of garb that are possibly linked to these?



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i think if there are garments of skin, then there was blood shed for thier sin. seems the beginning of this principle of blood covering sin. the Garments are interesting to me because first they make thier own garments, and then God makes them garments and clothes them.

sort of Like man clothing themself with thier own righteousness to cover thier sin, and God then clothing us by His provision with the robes washed in the blood of the Lamb. us taking of the old man and putting on the new.
 
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Huckleberry said:
After pondering it for a few minutes and trying to view it logically, what seems to make the most sense
to me is that God skinned the serpent, who was actually a dragon, and made their clothes from that.
Obviously pure conjecture, but if you're God, who you gonna kill?
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Hmm never thought of that!

But that reminds me, He said to the Serpent 'cursed are you above all cattle' ((v.14))

Hang on, when did the cattle get cursed? Why?
 
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Zmouth said:
So are you saying a person doesn't exist until after the flesh has the breath of life?
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That is the Moment man became a Living soul. adam and eves children are then born with a living soul which is really a peice of that soul passed through procreation to the offspring,
 
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