Do Muslims worship the God of Abraham?
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Definitely not!
For those ignorant of the foundation of Islam and its predecessor the "Allah religion":
'Allah' is a pre-Islamic name...corresponding to theBabylonian Bel." [Encyclopedia of Religion, eds. Paul Meagher, Thomas O'Brian, Consuela Aherne (Washington D.C.: Corpus Pub., 1979), I:117]
"Allah was known to the pre-Islamic Arabs; he was one of the Meccan deities" (Encyclopedia of Islam, ed. Gibb, I:406)
"The Arabs, before the time of Mohammed, accepted and worshiped, after a fashion, a supreme god called allah"
(Encyclopedia of Islam, ed. Houtsma). [Encyclopedia of Islam, eds. Houtsma, Arnold, Basset, Hartman (Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1913), I:302]
"The name Allah, as the Qur'an itself is witness, was well known in pre-Islamic Arabia. Indeed, both it and its feminine form, Allat, are found not infrequently among the theophorous names in inscriptions from North Africa.” (Arthur Jeffrey, ed., Islam: Muhammad and His Religion (1958), p. 85.)
"According to Middle East scholar E.M. Wherry, whose translation of the Quran is still used today, in pre-Islamic times Allah-worship, as well as the worship of Ba-al, were both astral religions in that they involved the worship of the sun, the moon, and the stars."[E.M. Wherry, A Comprehensive Commentary on the Quran (Osnabruck: Otto Zeller Verlag, 1973), p. 36]
"In Arabia, the sun god was viewed as a female goddess and the moon as the male god. As has been pointed out by many scholars such as Alfred Guilluame, the moon god was called by various names, one of which was Allah!" [Alfred Buillaume, Islam (London: Penguin Books, 1954), p. 6]
The Crescent Moon Symbol
"South Arabia's stellar religion has always been dominated by the Moon-god in various variations" (Berta Segall, The Iconography of Cosmic Kingship, the Art Bulletin, vol.xxxviii, 1956, p.77).
"The God Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon-God" (Coon, Southern Arabia, p.399). Also, "Similarly, under Muhammad's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, of Allah, the Supreme Being"
"Allah, the moon God, was married to the sun Goddess and had three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between Allah and men. The worship of the three daughters, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, was a significant part of the worship at the Kabah in Mecca." - Definitely NOT the God of Abraham!
For those ignorant of the foundation of Islam and its predecessor the "Allah religion":
'Allah' is a pre-Islamic name...corresponding to theBabylonian Bel." [Encyclopedia of Religion, eds. Paul Meagher, Thomas O'Brian, Consuela Aherne (Washington D.C.: Corpus Pub., 1979), I:117]
"Allah was known to the pre-Islamic Arabs; he was one of the Meccan deities" (Encyclopedia of Islam, ed. Gibb, I:406)
"The Arabs, before the time of Mohammed, accepted and worshiped, after a fashion, a supreme god called allah"
(Encyclopedia of Islam, ed. Houtsma). [Encyclopedia of Islam, eds. Houtsma, Arnold, Basset, Hartman (Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1913), I:302]
"The name Allah, as the Qur'an itself is witness, was well known in pre-Islamic Arabia. Indeed, both it and its feminine form, Allat, are found not infrequently among the theophorous names in inscriptions from North Africa.” (Arthur Jeffrey, ed., Islam: Muhammad and His Religion (1958), p. 85.)
"According to Middle East scholar E.M. Wherry, whose translation of the Quran is still used today, in pre-Islamic times Allah-worship, as well as the worship of Ba-al, were both astral religions in that they involved the worship of the sun, the moon, and the stars."[E.M. Wherry, A Comprehensive Commentary on the Quran (Osnabruck: Otto Zeller Verlag, 1973), p. 36]
"In Arabia, the sun god was viewed as a female goddess and the moon as the male god. As has been pointed out by many scholars such as Alfred Guilluame, the moon god was called by various names, one of which was Allah!" [Alfred Buillaume, Islam (London: Penguin Books, 1954), p. 6]
The Crescent Moon Symbol
"South Arabia's stellar religion has always been dominated by the Moon-god in various variations" (Berta Segall, The Iconography of Cosmic Kingship, the Art Bulletin, vol.xxxviii, 1956, p.77).
"The God Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon-God" (Coon, Southern Arabia, p.399). Also, "Similarly, under Muhammad's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, of Allah, the Supreme Being"
"Allah, the moon God, was married to the sun Goddess and had three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between Allah and men. The worship of the three daughters, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, was a significant part of the worship at the Kabah in Mecca." - Definitely NOT the God of Abraham!
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Amen both fail to mix faith in what they hear or or see as a result either enters into the sabbath rest of all believers both hearts remain hard..
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.Heb 4:1
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.Heb 4:1
No, they claim to, but they have made God info something He is not. For example, if I said Santa Claus wears a red suit, has big long ears, and hops around leaving colorful eggs for children- what I am really describing is the Easter Bunny, not Santa Claus. I have no problem with God being called by different names and in different languages, but Allah is not Who God is.
God does not promise ten virgins to men who go to heaven, heaven isn’t even physical, and we won’t even have physical bodies. God does not condone child brides or the mistreatment or women. God does not say to murder Christians who follow His Son. Allah is not God, but a made-up figure- therefore they do not worship the one true God, but an idol.
[for me anyway] No. It is an easy thing to say something, but it is another matter to actually be doing the performing thereof, which is in this case. The only other thing that matter's is what the Lord Jesus Christ said, saying:
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58)
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58)
The angel of the LORD said to her further, "Behold, you are with child, And you will bear a son; And you shall call his name Ishmael, Because the LORD has given heed to your affliction. He will be a wild donkey of a man, His hand will be against everyone, And everyone's hand will be against him; And he will live to the east of all his brothers." Genesis 16:11-12.
God refers to Isaac more than once as Abraham's only
son, since Isaac was the child of promise, not Ishmael.
God refers to Isaac more than once as Abraham's only
son, since Isaac was the child of promise, not Ishmael.
It is all about discernment. Maybe it started out with the God of Abraham but even when Israel was worshipping the golden calf as YHWH Elohim they were busy with idol worship.
The problem is not the source, the source of everything is our God, the God of Abraham. So when deception came into the world by the Accuser, the seed without spot or blemish was corrupted and God tells us to not mix the seed because that is lukewarm and He will spit it out. The Muslims have corrupted the unadulterated word of God bymixing the seed with mans’ opinions, just like many churches have done today.
Jesus was also very clear about this, Matthew 7 verses21-23 “Not everyone who says tome, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who doesthe will of my Father who is in heaven. Many willsay to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and inyour name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’[SUP][FONT="&]23 [/FONT][/SUP][FONT="&]Then I willtell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’[/FONT]
In conclusion, no Allah is not our God but an idol god.
The problem is not the source, the source of everything is our God, the God of Abraham. So when deception came into the world by the Accuser, the seed without spot or blemish was corrupted and God tells us to not mix the seed because that is lukewarm and He will spit it out. The Muslims have corrupted the unadulterated word of God bymixing the seed with mans’ opinions, just like many churches have done today.
Jesus was also very clear about this, Matthew 7 verses21-23 “Not everyone who says tome, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who doesthe will of my Father who is in heaven. Many willsay to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and inyour name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’[SUP][FONT="&]23 [/FONT][/SUP][FONT="&]Then I willtell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’[/FONT]
In conclusion, no Allah is not our God but an idol god.
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It depends on what school of thought you adhere to - there are many who believe that the Hebrew/Jewsih God of the OT is not the same deity as the Hebrew/Jewish God of the NT; in the OT the Hebrews were in the process of assembling like-tribes and founding a nation. They needed a thunder God, a war God to lead them.
In the NT, the nation had been established for some time and we see a more agrarian/pastoral god, a 'shepherd', rather then a thunder/sky/war god.
In other words, somewhere between the OT and the NT, the Hebrews changed their national deity from one ( a war god which they no longer needed) to another (a pastoral/agrarian god).
Keep in mind too that during the OT time, the Hebrews were not yet 'officially' monotheistic. It's only about the time of Moses that we see a true monotheism starting to develop.
If this is indeed the case, the Muslims still worship the OT God; the thunder God, the war God whilst the Jews, and subsequently Christians, worship the agrarian/pastoral God. Thus, they are not the same deity being worshiped today.
If however the Hebrews did not change their national deity, then yes, it's the same deity - different understanding, Muslims still adhere to the concept of a war/thunder God aspect, while Christians and Jews adhere to the more pastoral aspect.
If you look up the history of the Semitic God Yahweh, you'll see similarities between both with respect to a female counterpart, etc.
Adding to the confusion is that the name "el/il/illu/'il, etc." are all generic names for a 'god' in various Semitic languages - Hebrew 'el' is the same word as Arabic 'allah' which is the same word as the Assyrian/Babylonian 'ilu'. But, not only was it a generic word for 'god', it was also the name of a specific deity in the Semitic pantheon.
In the NT, the nation had been established for some time and we see a more agrarian/pastoral god, a 'shepherd', rather then a thunder/sky/war god.
In other words, somewhere between the OT and the NT, the Hebrews changed their national deity from one ( a war god which they no longer needed) to another (a pastoral/agrarian god).
Keep in mind too that during the OT time, the Hebrews were not yet 'officially' monotheistic. It's only about the time of Moses that we see a true monotheism starting to develop.
If this is indeed the case, the Muslims still worship the OT God; the thunder God, the war God whilst the Jews, and subsequently Christians, worship the agrarian/pastoral God. Thus, they are not the same deity being worshiped today.
If however the Hebrews did not change their national deity, then yes, it's the same deity - different understanding, Muslims still adhere to the concept of a war/thunder God aspect, while Christians and Jews adhere to the more pastoral aspect.
If you look up the history of the Semitic God Yahweh, you'll see similarities between both with respect to a female counterpart, etc.
Adding to the confusion is that the name "el/il/illu/'il, etc." are all generic names for a 'god' in various Semitic languages - Hebrew 'el' is the same word as Arabic 'allah' which is the same word as the Assyrian/Babylonian 'ilu'. But, not only was it a generic word for 'god', it was also the name of a specific deity in the Semitic pantheon.
I certainly agree that Islam is based on a false sense of heritage and a false prophet. I was simply pointing out the Muslim perspective. Islam claims the Torah was altered to deny the right of Ishmael, the Jews saying that he was the son of a slave woman Hagar, whereas Isaac was the son of a free woman, Sarah. While in fact, the Torah clearly states that the firstborn should get double portion of his father’s share, even when his mother has a lower status.
"If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his." (Deuteronomy 21: 15-17)
"If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his." (Deuteronomy 21: 15-17)
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Let me first ask several other questions:
(1) Do the Jews worship the same God as Christians?
(2) Do JWs or Mormons worship the same God as Christians?
I would answer both of those questions by saying that they have only a partial concept of the true God: they are lacking much. The Jews deny the Trinity (the Son) and the JW's and the Mormons both have very incorrect heretical views of the Son. Both are teaching a different gospel.
So then, do Muslims worship the same God as Jews and Christians? To say "yes" would be a much bigger stretch than to say Jews worship the same God Christians do. The Islamic concept of God is radically different than the loving God of Christianity. Sure there are also similarities; and Islamic beliefs about God are closer to Christianity than would be the beliefs of Hinduism and Buddhism.
A key difference between Judaism and Islam is this: Judaism was given and has its foundation in the true teaching given by Jehovah God. Orthodox Judaism today denies the actual prophecies and teachings of the OT: and thus misses the Messiah! Islam does not have its foundation in teaching given by Jehovah God! Islam is rooted in paganism, and is inspired by devils.
(1) Do the Jews worship the same God as Christians?
(2) Do JWs or Mormons worship the same God as Christians?
I would answer both of those questions by saying that they have only a partial concept of the true God: they are lacking much. The Jews deny the Trinity (the Son) and the JW's and the Mormons both have very incorrect heretical views of the Son. Both are teaching a different gospel.
So then, do Muslims worship the same God as Jews and Christians? To say "yes" would be a much bigger stretch than to say Jews worship the same God Christians do. The Islamic concept of God is radically different than the loving God of Christianity. Sure there are also similarities; and Islamic beliefs about God are closer to Christianity than would be the beliefs of Hinduism and Buddhism.
A key difference between Judaism and Islam is this: Judaism was given and has its foundation in the true teaching given by Jehovah God. Orthodox Judaism today denies the actual prophecies and teachings of the OT: and thus misses the Messiah! Islam does not have its foundation in teaching given by Jehovah God! Islam is rooted in paganism, and is inspired by devils.
"Allah" Has 99 names or titles. Many of them are titles that belong only to YHVH such as Most High. But within the list of names are found clues as to the true nature of this false god. This pretender.
Al Khaafidh (الخافض) The Abaser, The Demeanor
Ad Dharr (الضآر) The Distresser
Al Mumit (المميت) The Bringer of Death, the Destroyer
Allah the best (or greatest) of deceivers
Qur'an 3:54
Arabic: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين
And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers
Qur'an 8:30
Arabic: واذ يمكر بك الذين كفروا ليثبتوك او يقتلوك او يخرجوك ويمكرون ويمكر الله والله خير الماكرين
And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive, and Allah deceives/schemes and Allah (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers
Al Khaafidh (الخافض) The Abaser, The Demeanor
Ad Dharr (الضآر) The Distresser
Al Mumit (المميت) The Bringer of Death, the Destroyer
Allah the best (or greatest) of deceivers
Qur'an 3:54
Arabic: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين
And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers
Qur'an 8:30
Arabic: واذ يمكر بك الذين كفروا ليثبتوك او يقتلوك او يخرجوك ويمكرون ويمكر الله والله خير الماكرين
And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive, and Allah deceives/schemes and Allah (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers