KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

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KJV1611 said:
Prove this statement wrong from the bible.

"There are two Christs in all of us who are saved." The one that endwells the believer at salvation and the one they create in their minds.
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I counter by saying that if you have a "doctrine" you want to state, you need to have a specific texts that you get the doctrine from. The burden of proof is on you to prove that what you stated is true.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Prove this statement wrong from the bible.

"There are two Christs in all of us who are saved." The one that endwells the believer at salvation and the one they create in their minds.
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YOU prove that it's right from the Bible. You're the one making the statement.
 
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SovereignGrace said:
Where is there two Christs? You said the Christ in you is different than the Christ that indwells those saved by using other versions. You not seeing these heresies scares me to death for you.
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Yep there is only one "Christ" but "many" anti christs.
 
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joefizz said:
Well as I understand it the modern holiday of easter regarding the bunny and eggs is a matter of "Hope" and "new beginnings" while pagan it "can" still be a good reminder of "who gave us hope" and "a possible new beginning".
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I don’t have a problem with Easter, with sunrise services, hunting eggs after church, &c., as long as the kiddies are taught that those things like the bunny and egg don’t have anything to with Christianity.
 
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KJV1611 said:
When my kids were little we used to hunt Easter eggs after sunrise service... is this a bad thing? Am I confused over the Christian meaning of Easter?
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Either we celebrate and commemorate the Lord's resurrection or we celebrate the fertility rites of a pagan goddess. If you try to mix them you loose track of what the day is about.
 
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SovereignGrace said:
I don’t have a problem with Easter, with sunrise services, hunting eggs after church, &c., as long as the kiddies are taught that those things like the bunny and egg don’t have anything to with Christianity.
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2 Cor 6:16-18
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
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The problem, as I see it, is that participation in pagan fertility rites could possibly unknowingly compromise our witness with someone who has not yet learned not to approach life legalistically.
 
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SovereignGrace said:
Please elaborate.
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When we get saved we are immediately indwelt by the spirit of Christ. Then as we study we start to develop an image of Christ in our minds. That image of Christ is no where near the true image of Christ in our hearts.

So stone me for calling the image of Christ in our minds "another Christ". I don't know how else to put it.
 
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KJV1611 said:
When we get saved we are immediately indwelt by the spirit of Christ. Then as we study we start to develop an image of Christ in our minds. That image of Christ is no where near the true image of Christ in our hearts.

So stone me for calling the image of Christ in our minds "another Christ". I don't know how else to put it.
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But it to say there’s two Christs is blasphemous. What you posted in no way means there’s two Christs.
 
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SovereignGrace said:
What verse(s) you have in mind?<————- pardon the pun
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Paul is talking to saved Galatians who already have the Spirit of Christ in them yet he is trying to birth Christ in them... that Christ is the image of Christ in their minds.

[h=1]Galatians 4:19 King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,[/FONT]
 
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SovereignGrace said:
But it to say there’s two Christs is blasphemous. What you posted in no way means there’s two Christs.
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I have never said that there were 2 literal Christs. I'm not stupid, I know there is only one Christ. I chose to call the the Christ in our minds the second Christ - not a literal 2nd Christ but figurative.
 
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KJV1611 said:
I have never said that there were 2 literal Christs. I'm not stupid, I know there is only one Christ. I chose to call the the Christ in our minds the second Christ - not a literal 2nd Christ but figurative.
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One problem with that we have "dominion" over animals not God or Jesus's names nor them at all.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Paul is talking to saved Galatians who already have the Spirit of Christ in them yet he is trying to birth Christ in them... that Christ is the image of Christ in their minds.

Galatians 4:19 King James Version (KJV)

19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
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If ppl have the Spirit of Christ in them they don’t need to be birthed in Him.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Paul is talking to saved Galatians who already have the Spirit of Christ in them yet he is trying to birth Christ in them... that Christ is the image of Christ in their minds.

Galatians 4:19 King James Version (KJV)

19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
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This deals with progressive sanctification. As we mature in our walk with Him, we become more and more of His image.
 
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